Anyone negotiated salary for temp to hire positions?

[darkxshade]

How does this work? Do you generally negotiate the temp salary(per hour) or do you wait until they hire you full time? By my logic, it's not a great idea trying to negotiate on my hourly rate as a temp because by doing so might hurt what leverage I have when I turn out better than expected. The argument being that I had already agreed upon a certain rate or had already negotiated once.

So basically the company I interviewed for urgently needs a replacement for one of their positions(a position that was previously held by a friend of mine who had resigned for good reasons and referred me as suitor) but there's a hiring freeze in place that would take some time to finalize a new hire. In order to work around that, they would hire me as a temp so I could start immediately and I would be upgraded to full time whenever. The hourly rate quoted to me is decent enough for a temp position that I'm not too concerned with(it's ok with me) but that rate when worked out to a salaried(thus exempt) rate is a bit of a paycut to my old job. I'm fairly certain from what I understand about the job description that I'm pretty well prepared to exceed expectations(it's an easy job) so I was thinking it best to negotiate later?

edit: Also, I was not hired through a temp agency either so there's no cut anywhere that they should conceivably pay in additional fees. I say conceivably because when given the offer by phone, I had talked to some rep that identified themself as someone from a staffing agency so I may have been passed on to one anyway for reasons beyond my understanding. I'm guessing they handle processing of new hires so I had to go through them but I don't know if they get any cut since they were not directly involved with recruiting me.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Temp rate should be about 25% higher than an equivalent salary rate.
covers your taxes and insurance costs plus uncertainty.

Are they going to treat you as an independent and pay you directly or pay you through some agency.

A few years ago, I went from $60/hr fully independent to $90K ($45/hr) after 4 months with the company.

 

[darkxshade]

I'm not sure how the checks will come in. I find it suspect that even if I get paid through an agency that this will negatively affect my bargaining power as a result of them getting some sort of commission having had no participation whatsoever in my recruitment and subsequent hire.

This is how it literally went down:

Friend resigns(on good terms)
Friend hand my resume to boss simultaneously, mentions I'd be a great replacement
Manager calls me next day, I come in to interview
I interview once more the week after with global head
I get offered temp rate by on-boarding agency

I was never asked anything about salary requirements during interview, I assumed we would have that conversation when they change me over to full time.

 

[rudeguy]

I'm technically a temp right now. At the interview I made it known what my salary expectations were. I got an email a couple days later saying they wanted me to start the next day.

I'm now in a great bargaining position for when I do get hired. I've brought some things to the table that it would honestly take 2-3 people to replace.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Yes. I wouldn't even interview at my current job without them knowing what my salary requirements were, and I was unemployed at the time. I made an agreement with my boss that my temp position would be 3 months and then they would bring me on fulltime that's exactly what it was.

It's kind of funny because there are people there who have been temps for 2 years before being hired on fulltime.