Anyone make an x86 laptop that can compete with IBM?
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The Compaq Evo and 2800T series are amazing laptops.. My brother has one. They are thin, light, and have a 32mb 3d card. They also cost a lot less than IBM.
Anubis
No Lifer
That's what came to my mind.
I'm looking at getting a laptop within the next couple weeks and have been looking around. IBM is too expensive for me. Dell seems to be priced OK, but Sager is priced good and has a strong following.
Sager seems to like to build that absolute largest laptops they can. I need something I can move around, without using a forklift. Who in the hell thought up the idea to put two optical drives in a laptop? Or RAID? They're supposed to be portable... that's the whole idea.
Anubis
No Lifer
they are still portable,
personally id get one from Voodoo PC if i had the cash, the make ones with AMD 3400+s in them
IMO if you want the best business class "pc" laptop I think ibm is it. If you are comparing value then yes it does have competition and it probably is on the bottom of that competition, but don't take money into consideration then ibm has no competition. I have a t41 and I would take it over any similar priced more feature full dell,hp/compaq, gateway because of how solid this laptop is.
People always use benchmarks and price when comparing laptops but you have to also look at the chasis design and build quality. Which is the reason why I say ibm is the top of its class since when you are traveling around with your laptop you want to be absolutely sure that your laptop will take a beating and still look good and work great. For gaming my t41 sucks but for everything else its great because it doesn't get hot on my lap, the keyboard is the best laptop keyboard I have used, the palm rests doesn't get hot, and its lite.
Plus it comes with ibm access connections which makes switching wireless networks a breeze I absolutely love it because it makes the transition from home wireless to school wireless to friends wireless an easy 2 click process. And it comes with a keyboard light... which is pretty useless for me, but I am sure someone finds it useful
Its hard to describe how nice an ibm is. You have to use one for a week and carry it around then you will understand why everyone raves about its quality.
People always use benchmarks and price when comparing laptops but you have to also look at the chasis design and build quality. Which is the reason why I say ibm is the top of its class since when you are traveling around with your laptop you want to be absolutely sure that your laptop will take a beating and still look good and work great. For gaming my t41 sucks but for everything else its great because it doesn't get hot on my lap, the keyboard is the best laptop keyboard I have used, the palm rests doesn't get hot, and its lite.
Plus it comes with ibm access connections which makes switching wireless networks a breeze I absolutely love it because it makes the transition from home wireless to school wireless to friends wireless an easy 2 click process. And it comes with a keyboard light... which is pretty useless for me, but I am sure someone finds it useful
Its hard to describe how nice an ibm is. You have to use one for a week and carry it around then you will understand why everyone raves about its quality.
I think it has as much to do with the fact that they have a STACK of laptops that need the replacement as it does with how much the replacement is.
Can't agree more. I have an HP/Compaq NC8000 and have had it for about the same amount of time. I like it more and more each day. Also faster and lighter than my previous Dell C840. Build quality is top notch and it just works. My Dell had issues like the CDROM not recognizing CD's and not ejecting them, the case felt like it was falling apart, wouldn't go into standby, and the LCD isn't as sharp and bright as the HP.
Doesn't sound like anything extremely unordinary for businesses that supply laptops to their employees. Perhaps they need a better lease plan...
nothing can touch IBM in my opinion... if you want power, portability, and performance then IBM is the way to go. Of course you will have to pay a premium for it but for me it was well worth it.
They are portable but no where near in the same vein as the T class. They serve to very different purposes. I use my notebook for work and carry it to meet with clients etc and while the Sagers are impressive machines, no way in HELL am I lugging a 10 lb machine around.
The machines in the T series' class would probably be the HP NC series and the Dell Lattitude D600 . For the buck the D600 probably delivers the most...but I want to also mention that there's a killer $1500 T41 deal floating around somewhere.
Just from specifications and playing with 3D Models, I'd say that the HP Compaq nc6000 and the Toshiba Tecra M2 look like good rivals to the IBM T4x series. Both the nc6000 and the M2 use magnesium alloy components and dual pointing devices (trackstick + trackpad), and both are in the same weight class (nc6000 at 5.3 lbs and M2 at 4.9 lbs).
The nc6000 has the advantage of a Radeon 9600 standard, while the Toshiba comes with a somewhat maligned FX5200, but for business use I doubt it matters much.
IBM makes excellent machines, but yes, they do have a fair bit of competition that should not be underestimated.
As to Sager - that's comparing Apples and Oranges. Sager caters mainly to home users and enthusiasts, markets that IBM pretty much ignores.
The nc6000 has the advantage of a Radeon 9600 standard, while the Toshiba comes with a somewhat maligned FX5200, but for business use I doubt it matters much.
IBM makes excellent machines, but yes, they do have a fair bit of competition that should not be underestimated.
As to Sager - that's comparing Apples and Oranges. Sager caters mainly to home users and enthusiasts, markets that IBM pretty much ignores.
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