Anyone looking for 8" subs, check this comparison out

[MikeMike]

Great 8" challenge
The SQ tests were blind tests, the listener would get a sheet with numbers while in the car, then they would throw a woofer in, yell out a number etc.

The testers are all HIGHLY knowledgable about this stuff, "Bigbassman" happens to have won multiple WV championships, and a national championship, and they other testers were all at his skill level or higher.

The subs were donated by other people, not companies themselves, or where the testers own. (one sub was custom made by TC sounds just for fun)

read the thread ask questions here if you really want i can try and answer.

MIKE

 

[b0mbrman]

Very cool.

What I like about this test is that they used the same boxes for every sub. Many other comparisons or opinions always include stuff like "The 8W7 sounded great...in a ported, 2 cu ft box."

What rational person that has that much space be shopping for an 8" sub? Just to brag to your friends about how loud your expensive little sub is?

Anyhow. Regarding the Tang Band W8-740C, which finished in the middle of the pack. Note that it can be purchased for less than $30 and that none of the subs that beat it cost less than $100. Furthermore, while half a cube is probably at the lower end of useable space for the other subs, it is more than enough for the TB. I've used it in applications of less than 0.10 cubic feet (less driver volume of course)

 

[spidey07]

well given that the enclosure is everything as to how a woofer performs I declare this test meaningless.

didn't mean the thread crap, great tests none the less.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: spidey07
well given that the enclosure is everything as to how a woofer performs I declare this test meaningless.

Indeed.

Viper GTS

 

[iamwiz82]

Well I came in thinking we would be discussing a food tasting... 😱

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: spidey07
well given that the enclosure is everything as to how a woofer performs I declare this test meaningless.

didn't mean the thread crap, great tests none the less.

If you're shopping for 8" subs, you're probably very limited as to the size/shape of enclosure you can use.

 

[BigPoppa]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: spidey07
well given that the enclosure is everything as to how a woofer performs I declare this test meaningless.

didn't mean the thread crap, great tests none the less.

If you're shopping for 8" subs, you're probably very limited as to the size/shape of enclosure you can use.

The difference between 0.3 and 0.5 cu ft for an 8" sub can be a dramatic change in Qtc, affecting lower end extension and top end punch to a huge degree.

 

[b0mbrman]

Maybe I'm the only one with tiny cars with awkwardly shaped trunk, then...If I wanted an 8" sub in my trunk, it was either going in a 0.33 cu ft custom fiberglass enclosure...or in a 0.33 cu ft custom fiberglass enclosure 😉

No other unobtrusive places to put it...

 

[BigPoppa]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Maybe I'm the only one with tiny cars with awkwardly shaped trunk, then...If I wanted an 8" sub in my trunk, it was either going in a 0.33 cu ft custom fiberglass enclosure...or in a 0.33 cu ft custom fiberglass enclosure 😉

No other unobtrusive places to put it...

I can fit no less than 3.5 bodies in my trunk, so I don't even know what thats like 😉.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Well I came in thinking we would be discussing a food tasting... 😱

yeah, I was like "WTF? Subway only sells 6" and 1 foot subs..."

 

[mugs]

I was wondering why someone would buy hoagies online...

 

[flot]

Originally posted by: spidey07
well given that the enclosure is everything as to how a woofer performs I declare this test meaningless.

Agreed, the comparison is meaningless, why would you put a driver in a cabinet not made for it?!?

I have an NHT 1259 woofer sitting here which is (well, was, 5 years ago) one of the most applauded audiophile subwoofers, and if I put it in a 1.5 cubic foot box it is going to sound like absolute ass.

I thought you said the people running the test knew what they were doing?

 

[pac1085]

nothing wil compare to an oz audio 200l for sq... it would get a 200/80 on their SQ test 😛

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Well I came in thinking we would be discussing a food tasting... 😱

yeah, I was like "WTF? Subway only sells 6" and 1 foot subs..."

Well first thing was sub (food variety) copmarisons 😛 didn't even think to realise that you don't get 8" subs 😛

Koing

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: flot

Originally posted by: spidey07
well given that the enclosure is everything as to how a woofer performs I declare this test meaningless.

Agreed, the comparison is meaningless, why would you put a driver in a cabinet not made for it?!?

I have an NHT 1259 woofer sitting here which is (well, was, 5 years ago) one of the most applauded audiophile subwoofers, and if I put it in a 1.5 cubic foot box it is going to sound like absolute ass.

I thought you said the people running the test knew what they were doing?

theres a thing called time, it has to do with time, and which enclosure was free from SQL test. Also, the one dude who mainly ran it has 18 RE 8's in a single car, so he knows those subs like the back of his hand. If thye had had time to test in reccomended enclosures, then it would have been different, but if yu want to spend 300$ on a JLw7 then you can and build yourself the reccomended enclosure, very few people will be spending $300 on a 8" sub. and having a lot of room.

The test was more regulated with a specific size enclosure as more people will run an 8" in a smaller enclosure around what was run.

MIKE

 

[MikeMike]

bump.

MIKE

 

[Kelemvor]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Well I came in thinking we would be discussing a food tasting... 😱

Same here. Was confused when they were talking about woofers and bass...

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: BigPoppa

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Maybe I'm the only one with tiny cars with awkwardly shaped trunk, then...If I wanted an 8" sub in my trunk, it was either going in a 0.33 cu ft custom fiberglass enclosure...or in a 0.33 cu ft custom fiberglass enclosure 😉

No other unobtrusive places to put it...

I can fit no less than 3.5 bodies in my trunk, so I don't even know what thats like 😉.

That car's trunk has a complete volume of 5 cu ft. Unless he/she is very flexible, I don't think I could even fit one midget 🙁

People with cars like mine are the reason tests like these make sense

 

[SithSolo1]

I've got ~35 cu ft of space, which sub will best fit that?

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: SithSolo1
I've got ~35 cu ft of space, which sub will best fit that?

8" or can you go bigger? how much money you got? how many watts you want? heh.

go with a Wall in the back, throw in 2 RE 18" MT's, and about 2 amps of about 2kw each.

then youll need a new alt, a new batter, some 2/0 guage wire, maybe 2 runs of it....

yea.

MIKE

 

[KnickNut3]

My favorite 8" subs are meatball and ham, capicola, and provalone

 

[EvilYoda]

Excellent...I agree with the box-size argument, but this is still nice data for a future sub since the trunk of a GTO isn't exactly very conducive to 140dB sub-systems 😛

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: spidey07
well given that the enclosure is everything as to how a woofer performs I declare this test meaningless.

Indeed.

Viper GTS

Yep. That's like putting a sports car, SUV, dump truck, and an economy car and testing them all only on a dragstrip.

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: spidey07
well given that the enclosure is everything as to how a woofer performs I declare this test meaningless.

Indeed.

Viper GTS

Yep. That's like putting a sports car, SUV, dump truck, and an economy car and testing them all only on a dragstrip.

ok, you assemble all of the subs they had, built every box necessary, have all the tools necessary, and enough people to do it, and then do it all in one day.

MIKE

 

[flot]

You guys are missing the point - it's not that a LARGER box is necessarily better - it is that different subs will perform VERY differently in different size enclosures.

Sub A may work very well in a 1.0 cu ft enclosure but horribly in a 0.5 cuft enclosure
Sub B may work very well in a 0.5 cu ft enclosure but horribly in a 1.0 cuft enclosure

This is not related to quality, price, or anything else - it is simply a factor of the DESIGN OF THE SUBWOOFER.

I can't think of a good computer nerd correlation to this, except to say that it would be like testing 10 types of ram, and putting them all in a 1.8 ghz machine.