Originally posted by: Kibbo
Hey, I spent two weeks living with a catholic familiy in Belfast.
Belfast is cool, my favourite city that I've visited in Europe. All the great architecture, much less wankerism. A disconcerting amount of barbedwire.
Define wankerism in this context?
I know of wankerism, but are you saying the rest of the europeans are wankers, and why?
The barb wire is sweet, sounds like my long lost relatives are still hard as nails.
The ppl who were moved in to settle Ulster were the toughest, scrappiest fighters in Europe at that time.. border robbers from scotland. They were also the fiercest frontier blazers in America.. one of the few ethnic groups who actually actively went out to START fights with indians. They had no intentions of peace.
Also in the revolution IIRC Washington said alot of quotes about the irish
I'll put one here:
Throughout the War a large proportion of his troops were men of Ulster origins In tribute to them Washington said: "If defeated everywhere else. I will make my last stand for liberty among the Scotch Irish of my native Virginia." The great Civil War General, Robert E. Lee considered the Scotch Irish to have made fine soldiers because they had the courage and determination of the Scots with the dash and intrepidity of the Irish.
source:
http://www.ulsternation.org.uk/ulster's%20contribution%20to%20america.htm
I just read this and didnt know it, but even Davy Crockett was from Ulster
Population of Northern Ireland (the official name) is roughly 50/50 catholic/protestant. The catholics are winning in terms of birthrate, though.
That sucks.
I hope Ireland doesnt unite again. Then the protestants will get voted out of everything, and those would be who come from.
Encountered very little Gaelic there, Irish or Scottish. I met some Gaelic speakers in the Republic, though. Check out the counties in the middle, away from the coast. Much more traditional there. Find the villages with populations of 300 with 4 pubs down there.
For scottish gaelic, try scotland. The protestant population in Ulster is pretty anglicized. They know who butters their bread. Or at least buttered it, past tense.
What are you referring to? The benefits of being in the british empire?
My perspective is that the british empire more or less used the ppl who were pushed into Ulster
Best experience there was getting in a "fight" with a Catholic and a Protestant who decided to gang up on the foreigner, me. Was all in fun, but the punches weren't exactly pulled.
It can be a pretty intense place (I was there in July, the "silly season"). I would reccommend trying to meet someone who lives there to show you around the more intense neighbourhoods. Don't want to act too touristy around "The Falls."
You don't want to be too upfront about your own beliefs regarding their situation, either.
I dont have any hard set beliefs on that stuff, and wouldnt bother saying it.
I'm for the protestants tho. and not just cuz most in America consider the IRA killers.. but I have to side with them.. those are my people.
Andrew Jackson was Scotch Irish and a member of the Hibernian Society here in America, the oldest organization that was formed to help out Ireland.. and some wanted to form an army and reclaim it after the Revolution.
Pretty interesting stuff.