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tedrodai

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Here's what's gonna happen: I'm gonna wake up and go to work, come home to spend time with the family, then go to sleep and do it all again the next day.
 
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Pohemi420 said:
The Mayans used a cyclic calendar. Like the Gregorian calendar (the one we use) they had measurements for different time frames, such as days, weeks, months, etc..., but known by different names.

The current cycle that we are in ends precisely on Dec. 5th(or 12th), 2012, when a rare planetary alignment occurs. What, if anything, do you think this could mean? Maybe not the end of the world, but I might be so bold as to say the end of current civilization or life as we know and sometimes take for granted? Or it may just mean some smaller less notable changes or nothing at all. Comments? Opinions?

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It means that the Calendar starts over. The end. Not that exciting.
 
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DrPizza said:
I wrote a grad paper on their calendar a few years ago.... incredibly interesting stuff...

IIRC, supposedly, the world ends at the end of their calendar.

They were damn good at predicting stuff.

edit: if you look at the tools they had... a lack of telescopes, etc., you'd be amazed at how good they were at predicting things like lunar eclipses, solar eclipses, etc. They based a ton of stuff on the orbits of several planets as well. All this, a LONG time ago.

Look up Dresden Codex for more info on what they did.
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Mayans = Aliens.
 
William Gaatjes

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For once, i will provide you with a little bit of information. It is just an collection of information and ideas.

You may or may not believe this, it is quite controversial. The year 2012 is not the end of the world. It is more or less a gateway, a crossroad in events that occur as events pass by. Although it is common to use time, time is just a way to keep track of events that unfold and affect each other also known as history, the present and the future. The Mayan calendar is just that. Very controversial i must say indeed... But there are moments in time were events can have profound effects about what will occur in the future. The year 2012 with the according date and time, is such a crossroad of events.

Here is a controversial theory for you :

The Mayans had very precise star knowledge and knowledge about the sun.
And the sun, is important.

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We all know that the sun affects our lives. The sun continuously bombards the Earth with a wide spectrum of EM radiation, solar wind of ionized particles, magnetic field lines from the sun that create these magnetic portals every 8 minutes with magnetic field lines from the Earth through magnetic reconnection . And let us not forget, gravity ripples that the sun showers us with. But still to small to measure. There is also research done that seem to suggest that atomic decay from various radioactive isotopes of elements here on earth also vary with the solar cycle. :cool:
Now in 2012 there will be a planetary alignment and what i have come to understand also a galactic alignment. A gravity modulation that might affect the core of the sun, making the sun behave a little "wild". Please take note that the galactic alignment takes place from 1980 up to 2016. 1998 seems to have been the magical year. But let us return to something more close to home. The sun.

How is life affected by all of this ?
We all know that lower life forms are affected more by the sun than humans because lower life forms are instinct driven. And that is not entirely true. Humans are just as instinct driven when compared to lower lifeforms. But when a human consciousness is made aware of such, the human mind can overrule all of these instincts. We can thus state that humans do have basic instincts and are influenced by them.

In 1915 there was a Russian scientist named Alexander Chizhevsky.
This scientist found out that there is a relation between the solarcycles and human behavior globally on average. It seems that fast changes in the geomagnetic field of earth cause certain problems. Erratic sleep patterns. Not feeling rested after enough sleep, some individuals might even experience anxiety. On average, this will make people more tired and usually a little more paranoid than usual...
Recently, another researcher named Professor Raymond Wheeler of the University of Kansas has come to the same conclusions.

How does this work ? Well, humans have a biological clock. The circadian clock. That clock does not run at exactly 24 hours as is often mentioned.
This clock is continuously reset by our daily and night pattern of life.
So far so good.
In comes the Pineal gland.
This gland controls our day and night pattern.
Magnetite, this is a material that is sensitive to outer magnetic fields.
It seems that in the sinuses of the human skull, bones can be found with magnetite in them, the ethmoid bone. It is found between the nasal cavity and the brain.
The human eye however contains Cryptochrome. A protein that is also sensitive to external magnetic fields. And this protein also plays a role in the way the circadian clock is controlled in animals. In humans however this is not proven directly but there is evidence that the eyes do influence the pineal gland indirectly through neural pathways coming from the eye.

Thus in history it can be found that when a lot of geomagnetic disturbances are happening, humans seem to start to behave more erratic and become more volatile. When there is a large scale event occurring such as drought, disease or food shortage, it is not difficult to imagine that this might be just that little nudge needed to create chaos in human society. But there is one thing i left out. All life is affected by powerful fast changes in the geomagnetic field. It is an overall effect that affects many different aspects of nature. When this all conjures negatively...

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Cryptochrome is also able to control gene expression.
And more recently, the amino acid glycine have been discovered to display ferroelectricity.
Ferroelectricity is a property of certain materials which possess a spontaneous electric polarization that can be reversed by the application of an external electric field.
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And that is why metaphysically speaking, the year 2012 is a crossroad of events.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferroelectricity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetite

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetoreception

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethmoid_bone

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptochrome

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_gland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrainment_(chronobiology)

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_2012_03.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Chizhevsky

http://brainguff.co.uk/2012/05/scientists-discover-solar-activity-directly-affects-human-behaviour/
 
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Bubbaleone said:
The last day of the Mayan calendar is on Friday, December 21, 2012.
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It's not the last day of their calender. It's simply the end of the 12th Bak'tun/beginning of the 13th. There are 20 Bak'tuns in a Pictun so it's not even the biggest round number in their calender. There's three bigger round numbers in their long count actually. There's also inscriptions referencing predictions beyond the 13th bak'tun so obviously something is happening afterwards.
 
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Pohemi420 said:
The Mayans used a cyclic calendar. Like the Gregorian calendar (the one we use) they had measurements for different time frames, such as days, weeks, months, etc..., but known by different names.

The current cycle that we are in ends precisely on Dec. 5th(or 12th), 2012, when a rare planetary alignment occurs. What, if anything, do you think this could mean? Maybe not the end of the world, but I might be so bold as to say the end of current civilization or life as we know and sometimes take for granted? Or it may just mean some smaller less notable changes or nothing at all. Comments? Opinions?

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The same thing it means when our calender hits dec. 31.
 
William Gaatjes

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Some more information that might shed light on the hidden link. Could it really be just coincidence or not ?


http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v2/n6/full/ncomms1364.html
In vertebrates, such as migratory birds and sea turtles, the ability to sense the Earth's magnetic field is clearly important for positional and directional information during their long-distance migrations1, 2, 3. In many animals, magnetoreception is thought to depend on light-sensitive chemical reactions involving the flavoprotein cryptochrome (CRY)3, 4, 5.

There are two major groups of CRYs found in animals, based on both their phylogenetic position and function in the regulation of circadian clocks6. Drosophila-like type 1 CRYs (which have been found only in invertebrates) are sensitive to blue light and function mainly as circadian photoreceptors. On the other hand, vertebrate-like type 2 CRYs (which are found in both vertebrates and invertebrates) are thought to function mainly as negative regulators of the clockwork's transcriptional feedback loop and do so in a light-independent manner7.

Genetic studies have shown that a light-dependent magnetic sense in Drosophila is indeed mediated by its type 1 CRY8, 9. Furthermore, using the Drosophila GAL4-UAS transgenic approach for targeted gene expression, it has been shown recently that type 1 CRY proteins from either the fly itself or the monarch butterfly, and an insect version of type 2 CRY from the monarch can each restore magnetosensitivity and its light dependency in CRY-deficient Drosophila10.

Humans are widely assumed not to have a magnetic sense3. For example, the extensive behavioural studies by Robin Baker11, 12, 13, 14, 15, suggesting a link between non-visual navigation and magnetoreception in humans, are controversial. However, there is consistent evidence of an influence of geomagnetic fields on the light sensitivity of the human visual system16, 17. Moreover, it has been proposed recently that light-sensitive magnetic responses are not only used for directional information, but may also aid visual spatial perception in mammals, by providing a spherical coordinate system for integrating spatial position3. We therefore evaluated the light-dependent magnetosensing potential of human CRY. Here we show using a transgenic approach, that human CRY can function as a magnetosensor in the magnetoreception system of Drosophila and that it does so in a light-dependent manner. Thus, human CRY has the molecular capability to function as a light-sensitive magnetosensor, and this finding may lead to a renewed interest in human magnetoreception.
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A Aboriginal tribe that seems to know the magnetic poles without a compass or making use of the location of the sun in combination with the time of day : The language Guugu Yimithirr.
From a link i got from nonlnear :
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/magazine/29language-t.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

But then a remote Australian aboriginal tongue, Guugu Yimithirr, from north Queensland, turned up, and with it came the astounding realization that not all languages conform to what we have always taken as simply “natural.” In fact, Guugu Yimithirr doesn’t make any use of egocentric coordinates at all. The anthropologist John Haviland and later the linguist Stephen Levinson have shown that Guugu Yimithirr does not use words like “left” or “right,” “in front of” or “behind,” to describe the position of objects. Whenever we would use the egocentric system, the Guugu Yimithirr rely on cardinal directions. If they want you to move over on the car seat to make room, they’ll say “move a bit to the east.” To tell you where exactly they left something in your house, they’ll say, “I left it on the southern edge of the western table.” Or they would warn you to “look out for that big ant just north of your foot.” Even when shown a film on television, they gave descriptions of it based on the orientation of the screen. If the television was facing north, and a man on the screen was approaching, they said that he was “coming northward.”

When these peculiarities of Guugu Yimithirr were uncovered, they inspired a large-scale research project into the language of space. And as it happens, Guugu Yimithirr is not a freak occurrence; languages that rely primarily on geographical coordinates are scattered around the world, from Polynesia to Mexico, from Namibia to Bali.


In order to speak a language like Guugu Yimithirr, you need to know where the cardinal directions are at each and every moment of your waking life. You need to have a compass in your mind that operates all the time, day and night, without lunch breaks or weekends off, since otherwise you would not be able to impart the most basic information or understand what people around you are saying. Indeed, speakers of geographic languages seem to have an almost-superhuman sense of orientation. Regardless of visibility conditions, regardless of whether they are in thick forest or on an open plain, whether outside or indoors or even in caves, whether stationary or moving, they have a spot-on sense of direction. They don’t look at the sun and pause for a moment of calculation before they say, “There’s an ant just north of your foot.”

They simply feel where north, south, west and east are, just as people with perfect pitch feel what each note is without having to calculate intervals. There is a wealth of stories about what to us may seem like incredible feats of orientation but for speakers of geographic languages are just a matter of course. One report relates how a speaker of Tzeltal from southern Mexico was blindfolded and spun around more than 20 times in a darkened house. Still blindfolded and dizzy, he pointed without hesitation at the geographic directions.
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2012 > 2013 is wild solar cycle. Solar cycle and human behavior... And perhaps depending on where one is located on the earth, the effect is more profound...
 
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William Gaatjes

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This does makes me want to ask a question : Does any body know if the ancient Egyptians and the Mayans used a language that relied on cardinal directions instead of the egocentric system to provide location information ?
 
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William Gaatjes said:
This does makes me want to ask a question : Does any body know if the ancient Egyptians and the Mayans used a language that relied on cardinal directions instead of the egocentric system to provide location information ?
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Eulerian vs LaGrangian systems are hard enough for modern sophisticates to understand.
 
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TheShiz said:
nothing will happen. with all the advancements in technology even the best scientists of today have no idea what it will be like in 50 years, so why should anyone believe some people who lived a long time ago would be any better at predicting the future?
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they were more spiritual :D
 
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DrPizza said:
I wrote a grad paper on their calendar a few years ago.... incredibly interesting stuff...

IIRC, supposedly, the world ends at the end of their calendar.

They were damn good at predicting stuff.

edit: if you look at the tools they had... a lack of telescopes, etc., you'd be amazed at how good they were at predicting things like lunar eclipses, solar eclipses, etc. They based a ton of stuff on the orbits of several planets as well. All this, a LONG time ago.

Look up Dresden Codex for more info on what they did.
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You only hear about their successes, I bet they've had way more failed predictions than actualized ones. :cool:
 
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oh great i type something and went somewhere in the middle and come back 1 hour later and gotta log in again then the stuff i type did not go through.

where 2012 dec 5 and dec 12 come from? i thought its dec 31.

i read somewhere the mayan predicted the end of the world before and turns out it was a white man arrive at their land and cause davastation. they technically correct if not complete correct. its like end of the world relevant.

2012 dec something might happend too. not end of the world or as over-loaded exaggerated as words says but something..... something.... something........ something.

be preprare better than not be.
 
IronWing

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NiceCold said:
oh great i type something and went somewhere in the middle and come back 1 hour later and gotta log in again then the stuff i type did not go through.

where 2012 dec 5 and dec 12 come from? i thought its dec 31.

i read somewhere the mayan predicted the end of the world before and turns out it was a white man arrive at their land and cause davastation. they technically correct if not complete correct. its like end of the world relevant.

2012 dec something might happend too. not end of the world or as over-loaded exaggerated as words says but something..... something.... something........ something.

be preprare better than not be.
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How does one prepare for the end of the world?
 
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