Anyone know a way on an Autonomous Cisco AP to get two SSID's to share one VLAN?

[alkemyst]

For typical Big Box wireless AP's this is easy peasy.

For a real Cisco AP, not so.

Basically I run my PC on 5GHz and any clients that want to join. I run my video cameras on 2.4GHz and those that can't support 5GHz here.

On my E4200 everyone was on one VLAN...the main issue I have now is sharing printers and files breaks in windows different subnets.

If it helps my device is a Cisco C819HWD-A-K9 ISR Wireless Router.

Also if anyone knows a way to improve signal strength over the stock rubber ducks, let me know. I have a private airport nearby so I don't want to play with World Mode options.

 

[seepy83]

I'm pretty sure on the Aironet's you can only assign 1 SSID per vlan. Not sure if the ISRs are any different.

If you're only trying to do this because you're having a problem with Printer/File sharing across different subnets, then I would recommend trying to fix that problem. I share Printers and Files across multiple subnets/vlans all day long without error...

 

[alkemyst]

I'm pretty sure on the Aironet's you can only assign 1 SSID per vlan. Not sure if the ISRs are any different.

If you're only trying to do this because you're having a problem with Printer/File sharing across different subnets, then I would recommend trying to fix that problem. I share Printers and Files across multiple subnets/vlans all day long without error...

First, statement is what I know.

Second, statement is what I am asking.

 

[lif_andi]

Might be easier to route between the subnets with a static route. As for signal strength you can try a better antenna.

 

[seepy83]

Might be easier to route between the subnets with a static route.

That's what I was trying to hint at in my post earlier. There's absolutely nothing inherent about Windows file/print sharing that doesn't work across multiple subnets...so either those interfaces don't have routing configured, or there's something else (a firewall running on the hosts, maybe) that's breaking the file and print sharing.

 

[drebo]

You can assign one SSID per radio per VLAN.

 

[alkemyst]

You can assign one SSID per radio per VLAN.

There are ways around it I think...I was told somethings that would required server setups on my box.

 

[alkemyst]

That's what I was trying to hint at in my post earlier. There's absolutely nothing inherent about Windows file/print sharing that doesn't work across multiple subnets...so either those interfaces don't have routing configured, or there's something else (a firewall running on the hosts, maybe) that's breaking the file and print sharing.

wat? I turned off firewalls....didn't work.

 

[seepy83]

wat? I turned off firewalls....didn't work.

I'm not saying that firewalls are your problem - but you've got a configuration problem somewhere...either in your routing (or lack there of) between vlans or some configuration problem on your hosts. Sharing files and printers across subnets/vlans is done all the time...it works.

 

[alkemyst]

you probably work in an environment with a separate DHCP server.

show me the config if not.

 

[seepy83]

I've never used an 819 or any 800-series/ISR. I have no config to show you.

I'm also not sure what you think DHCP has to do with this.

You said that file and print sharing breaks when hosts are on different subnets, and that's factually inaccurate. I don't care if your hosts are using DHCP or static configs...they can share files and printers across subnets.

Do you have routing enabled between the interfaces/vlans that you're having a problem with?

 

[alkemyst]

I've never used an 819 or any 800-series/ISR. I have no config to show you.

I'm also not sure what you think DHCP has to do with this.

You said that file and print sharing breaks when hosts are on different subnets, and that's factually inaccurate. I don't care if your hosts are using DHCP or static configs...they can share files and printers across subnets.

Do you have routing enabled between the interfaces/vlans that you're having a problem with?

please stop responding then.

it's routing on the ISR side. AP's work different.

 

[lif_andi]

You are interestingly rude towards a person who's been nothing but nice... good luck solving your problem.

 

[alkemyst]

You are interestingly rude towards a person who's been nothing but nice... good luck solving your problem.

I was being as polite as possible to one that admitted they were just guessing.

Then I went further and explained more so you'd have a better understanding.

 

[seepy83]

I was being as polite as possible to one that admitted they were just guessing.

Then I went further and explained more so you'd have a better understanding.

Did you learn how to route between interfaces yet?

Save the bullshit holier-than-thou crap for OT. I don't know if you'll find someone that's configured an 819 here, but I've done plenty of other Cisco routers, switches, firewalls, wireless controllers, etc. Call Cisco TAC next time you want support specific to one model, or post your config so we can have a look at it instead of just demanding a config from someone else.

 

[JackMDS]

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[alkemyst]

Seepy83 read the white papers for Cisco APs in AUTONOMOUS mode.

The router is routing properly. I can ping every VLAN from each client. It's not allowing the device shares to pass which probably is not a routing issue, but some kind of L2 traffic.

 

[alkemyst]

I have a VLAN 25 and a VLAN 1. Subnets 192.168.25.1 /24 and 192.168.1.1 /24.

The subnets can talk to each other via ping from the clients. However; if I map a drive/printer on a VLAN 25 machine those shares are not visible to VLAN 1.

Due to the way Cisco Autonomous APS handle SSID's I need both a separate SSID and VLAN if I want my 5GHz and 2.4GHz Radios usable.

Thanks

 

[Mushkins]

If you can ping just fine between the two it's not a routing issue. Sounds more like a sharing/permissions issue.

Is this a domain or a workgroup/homegroup?

 

[alkemyst]

Work/homegroup

It works fine when everyone is on the 2.4g SSID

If I join the 5g then it breaks for everyone

 

[Mushkins]

Are both wireless networks configured identically aside from the different SSIDs?

Also, what OSes are we talking about on the clients?

 

[alkemyst]

Different VLANS which is a Cisco requirement, everything else is same even passwords

 

[JoeBleed]

How are you mapping the drives? mapping them manually (\\computername\sharename) or trying to browse?

If browsing, i'd say your routing is drooping broadcast traffic. Which it's supposed to do by default.

 

[alkemyst]

They are mappings

 

[JoeBleed]

do homegourps break when changing subnets?

I found this and it indicates it will not work. Though it is short and not a lot of detail.

Disable the homegroup crap and try with out them. Or are these clients not pro or higher?

Edit: er, link might actually help.

http://social.technet.microsoft.com...077cb4/homegroup-between-home-network-subnets

Edit 2: also see this one.
http://social.technet.microsoft.com...1/homegroup-not-working-with-wireless-network