Anyone just quit and move overseas to live/work?

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Has anyone just simply quit a decent job in the USA and moved overseas to live and work for an extended period of time, say 3+ years?

If so, why did you do it?
What were you doing in the USA at the time?
Where did you go?
How did you find a job once you got there?
How long did you stay or are you still there?
What did you miss from the USA?
What did you gain from not being in the USA?
In the end, was it the right decision for you?

Thanks for sharing!
 

Fern

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Yeah, I did it.

At the time I was working as a CPA for a large international accounting firm in Miami. After graduating colleg I took a job with them, told 'em I'd stay for three yrs. When the time was up, the only place they could transfer me was South America. Didn't appeal to me, how much different could it be than Miami? So, I gave away all my stuff, car to brother etc, packed 2 bags and got a one-way to London.

So, first place I went was London England. I think it was a good choice. Allowed me to aclamate myself without any foreign language problems. I also used it a base for a while. I'd go visit Holland (Netherlands), Germany etc then come back. I eventually lived in Berlin and Paris for extended periods.

First jobs I found were menial labor, paid in cash. I was mostly traveling alone, so I met a lot of people. I would learn of labor jobs through them, whether they were also foreigners (ex. Australians) or "locals". I ended up in Berlin after about a year, was really down on my luck, no money etc. Through sheer determination and resourcefullness I found the American community living in West Berlin (I was there back when the "wall" still existed. Eventualy I stayed there a couple of years working a CPA (for mostly Americans over there) doing taxes etc. But I tried different things in different places, some worked others didn't. Ex. For a time I used my camper as a travel service around Europe. They have hitch hiking services over there. If you have a car, you register with them and they'll sign up people to go along. They gotta a set for gas expense. Because I had a camper I could take a lot of people and made god money on the gas fee they each paid.

All in all, I stayed about 7 or 8 yrs b4 coming back.

What did I miss from the USA? Not much really, of course I have enjoyed football and other sports I did while in the US, but I didn't go over there to do exactly the same stuff. There were so many activities available there, and friends, I didn't ever get homesick or really miss anything.

I did have a major culture shock upon returning. Shows like Married with Children & Cops were on. They seemed shockingly vulgar & insipid to me. Food sucks here to. After living in Paris for 5 or 6 yrs you get really spoiled

Was it the right decision for me? Depends upon the critera. I'd prolly be making more money and have more "stuff" had I not spent so many years just traveling around in a camper and seeing Europe. But I was never happier in my life, to me that's what counts.

I could fill pages with stories, but am too lazy right now. If you have any questions LMK, I'll help if I can.

Fern
 

Jawo

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Originally posted by: HamSupLo
wow, that sounds awesome Fern. How old were you went you left for Europe?

I'm wondering the same thing...
 

GTaudiophile

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When were you in Berlin? I lived there from 1988 until 1991. If I could end up anywhere it would actually be there. I just am not too confident in the labor market in Deutschland.
 

FoBoT

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I just am not too confident in the labor market in Deutschland.

unemployment is higher in all the socialist countries
do they let people immigrate that don't already have a job lined up?
 

Jawo

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Originally posted by: sygyzy
Originally posted by: Jawo
Originally posted by: MS Dawn
I haven't paid taxes in 5 years. Legally. :)

ha ha ha....details please?

MS Dawn lives on some resort island.

Ahhhh....yea I see that see her profile says she lives in the Bahamas, which is quite nice, and I wouldnt mind living there as well!!!
 

Fern

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Originally posted by: HamSupLo
wow, that sounds awesome Fern. How old were you went you left for Europe?

I was about 25 yrs old.

Fern
 

pontifex

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i've never been out of the US but I'd like to think I would enjoy living in Ireland or Scotland.
 

Fern

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
When were you in Berlin? I lived there from 1988 until 1991. If I could end up anywhere it would actually be there. I just am not too confident in the labor market in Deutschland.

I think I may have been there for just the begining of the year in 1988. '88 is about the time I moved to Paris.

I left just a little before the wall came down. I really regret not being in Berlin when that happened. I was in Paris staying with French GF that weekend (when the fell) and it was my future mother in laws birthday. I was gonna blow off her BD party and go back to Berlin for the festivities, but my GF complained etc...

Fern
 

Fern

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I just am not too confident in the labor market in Deutschland.

unemployment is higher in all the socialist countries
do they let people immigrate that don't already have a job lined up?

In Berlin back then there was no real need for any kind of immigration permission. Berlin was still effectively under the control of Tripartide agreement established at the end of WW2 - I.e., the American Army General was in charge (I used to do his tax return when I lived there :) ). Who could stay, even for Germans, was at his discretion. While there I basically lived and worked in the US section of West Berlin. I usualluy got paid in US $'s. I'd go over to the French section for food etc. Over there you could pay in French Francs or Duetchemarks (sp?). Berlin was prolly one of the strangest places around that time. Seeing the heavily fortified wall, cold war spy exchanges on the bridges between the USA and USR etc. Weird place.

In France, there are requirements to getting a residence permit. The permit is good for ten years, and your employer basically has to prove that you have skills no one else in France has, if so they are allowed to hire and you get your permit. In my case, being a US tax CPA, it was fairly easy to establish that a French person could not do my job.

But my travels were before the World Trade Center bombings, back then you were much freer to travel. At least that's my guess. Since the GWOT I've just gone back to Italy to visit my wife's hometown & relatives.

Fern
 

rudder

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I ahd the opportunity to live in the Philippines and work for a U.S. company. That would have been the shiznit. But that pesky thing called marriage and kids squashed that.

Of course that is not the same as jus tup and quitting and moving to a foreign country and finding a job. That would entail some research.. like mathcing your job skills to the local labor market. It would suck being unemployed in the U.S. and I would imagine it would suck being unemployed in a foreign country. If I did do it I would go someplace where I could at least get a job as a dive instructor or something if nothing else worked out.
 

Alienwho

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I just got up and left to brazil for a few years without knowing the language or anything about the country. I just came back to wrap up my college education, then i'll head back. I want to find a job that will let me spread out my time evenly in both the states and brazil (like work for an american company that's doing business in brazil and sends me down there to do it for them).

Brazil is a major untapped resource and I'm going to take huge advantage of it because you can't find an American that speaks portuguese. Not to mention brazilians are pretty much the only people in the world that likes americans these days. Feel free to stick with your spanish, everybody.
 

KaChow

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I actually did the opposite. My wife and I were working overseas (tax free) and after three years we got up one morning and had a discussion about what we REALLY wanted to do. We both gave our two week notices that day.

We didn't have any jobs lined up or a place to live back in the U.S. We just relied on our security clearances and we were both gainfully employed within a week of returning to the U.S.
 

Bacstar

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Originally posted by: rudder
I ahd the opportunity to live in the Philippines and work for a U.S. company. That would have been the shiznit. But that pesky thing called marriage and kids squashed that.

Of course that is not the same as jus tup and quitting and moving to a foreign country and finding a job. That would entail some research.. like mathcing your job skills to the local labor market. It would suck being unemployed in the U.S. and I would imagine it would suck being unemployed in a foreign country. If I did do it I would go someplace where I could at least get a job as a dive instructor or something if nothing else worked out.

Hey rudder...If you don't mind me asking, which company was it? I just got back from a vacation to the Philippines visiting family, and would give up living in the states in a heartbeat to live and work in the Philippines...the laid back atmosphere while i was there really won me over... not to mention a dollar goes a long way over there. I'm definitely planning to retire there when I can start collecting on my pension.
 

Rubycon

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I am not a U.S. Citizen and do not have any permanent address on land. :D
 

WildHorse

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Originally posted by: MS Dawn
I am not a U.S. Citizen and do not have any permanent address on land. :D
What on earth are you talking about???
That makes no sense. You're joking, right?
Are you a princess living on a fluffy cloud??
Are you suffering from homelessness (if so I truly sympathize), posting from computers in the library or in cafes?

 

Rubycon

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Originally posted by: scott

What on earth are you talking about???
That makes no sense. You're joking, right?
Are you a princess living on a fluffy cloud??
Are you suffering from homelessness (if so I truly sympathize), posting from computers in the library or in cafes?

I work /live on a cruise ship. You've heard of those, right? ;)