Anyone here work in a NOC? What shift do you work?

Arkitech

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I'm interested in moving into NOC work, mainly because of the possibility of finding more attractive shifts. I'd love to find IT working doing a 3/12, it seems more likely to be available in a 24/7 NOC.

Are there any helpdesk environments that run 24/7?
 

ultimatebob

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I used to work at a NOC. Their shifts were 7am to 7:15pm and 7pm to 7:15am from Monday to Wednesday, and again from Thursday to Sunday. Every three months, the day and night shift teams did a shift rotation and switched hours.

So, it's more of a 3/12 to 4/12 schedule, which an occasional horrible 11 day work stretch or awesome 11 day vacation during the shift rotation.
 
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nageov3t

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I used to work at a NOC as well... they did 8-hour shifts, though. shift were something like

12 am - 8 am
1 am - 9 am
8 am - 4 pm
9 am - 5 pm
4 pm - 12 am
5 pm - 1 am

right now I work in storage admin/backup support and we do have a shift that runs 3/12's, but it's solely for the guys who work weekend overnights (generally regarded as the worst shift and hardest to fill)... both guys work Fri/Sat/Sun, 10 pm - 10 am, with the rest of the week off.
 

Arkitech

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I used to work at a NOC. Their shifts were 7am to 7:15pm and 7pm to 7:15am from Monday to Wednesday, and again from Thursday to Sunday. Every three months, the day and night shift teams did a shift rotation and switched hours.

So, it's more of a 3/12 to 4/12 schedule, which an occasional horrible 11 day work stretch or awesome 11 day vacation during the shift rotation.

What was your primary function? Network monitoring, desktop issues, administration, etc..?
 

Arkitech

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I used to work at a NOC as well... they did 8-hour shifts, though. shift were something like

12 am - 8 am
1 am - 9 am
8 am - 4 pm
9 am - 5 pm
4 pm - 12 am
5 pm - 1 am

right now I work in storage admin/backup support and we do have a shift that runs 3/12's, but it's solely for the guys who work weekend overnights (generally regarded as the worst shift and hardest to fill)... both guys work Fri/Sat/Sun, 10 pm - 10 am, with the rest of the week off.

Wow, I'm surprised that would be a hard shift to fill. I'd love a schedule like that.

Any suggestions on how to get into something like that?
 

TallBill

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I used to work at a NOC. Their shifts were 7am to 7:15pm and 7pm to 7:15am from Monday to Wednesday, and again from Thursday to Sunday. Every three months, the day and night shift teams did a shift rotation and switched hours.

So, it's more of a 3/12 to 4/12 schedule, which an occasional horrible 11 day work stretch or awesome 11 day vacation during the shift rotation.

That's pretty awesome, could easily do a 4x12 although I don't even know what I'd do with all that extra free time.
 

virtuamike

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NOC, do 12s but with commute and gym and all I'm lucky if I get 5 hrs of sleep when working. On the bright side, the work doesn't follow me home when I'm out of office.
 

nageov3t

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NOC, do 12s but with commute and gym and all I'm lucky if I get 5 hrs of sleep when working. On the bright side, the work doesn't follow me home when I'm out of office.

yeah... my NOC eventually moved to 4/12's and I couldn't take it. I quit shortly afterward.

during the days of the week I was working, I felt utterly sucked dry of all energy and ambition. meanwhile, the days I was off felt random and sporadic and I felt like I needed to consult an oracle when trying to figure out when to plan trips in terms of my work schedule (plus when they made that switch over, all non-managers were then required to start working weekends on a rotating basis; I'd been working a Monday-Friday schedule for almost a year at that point and wasn't willing to give it up)
 

TallBill

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NOC, do 12s but with commute and gym and all I'm lucky if I get 5 hrs of sleep when working. On the bright side, the work doesn't follow me home when I'm out of office.

I don't understand this either unless your commute is insane. I leave for work around 6 am, get home around 8:30 pm. I hit the gym after work so that's included. I'm also a 3/4 time student and still average 6-7 hrs of sleep on weekdays.
 

MustISO

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I know a few people who do 3/12's or overnight shifts. I personally couldn't do overnights but I would love to do 4x10 days. 3 day weekends would be great.

There are desktop support positions 24/7. Lots of places support users in Europe or Asia as well as have to monitor systems 24 / 7.
 

Red Squirrel

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I went from server tech to NOC. Everyone told me it was a downgrade as server tech is considered higher ranked, that part may be true, but pay was the same and I enjoy the job much more. Been working NOC for 3-4 years now and love it. The shifts are very sporadic but basically there are 12h day, 12h night and 8h day. Typical schedule is 4x12 with 3-4 days off, then 8's scattered around. But you can end up with doing a full week of 8's as well. Shifts are from 7 to 7, so night is 7pm to 7am and day is 7am to 7pm. The day shifts are the hardest because of having to get up so early, but it's not all that much worse than a regular day shift that you'd do at any other job. I rather work 4 12's then 5 8's all the time.

I like to sometimes work like 6+ nights in a row then I end up with a bunch of time off. Because the schedules are very random it means they're flexible. If you need to make any kind of appointment or need a day off, just say so ahead of time and you are scheduled off that day.

As for the actual work, we monitor a handful of telecommunications stuff throughout our company and 2 sub companies (all part of the same big company). Environmental (power, temperature, doors etc), transport (fibre/radio etc), telephony switching such as DMS10, DMS100, DMS200, couple DMS1U's as well, along with lot of other misc equipment such as AFCs and so on... Also monitor CDMA cellular. We'd love to bring HSPA in, but probably wont happen as another NOC does that. We also monitor a handful of managed services customer equipment like servers, routers, switches, etc... For some sites we also monitor fire alarms. I'm probably missing stuff. We have 4 monitors filled with stuff to watch.


Overall it's a nice easy job and you can pretty much just surf the net between phone calls, but when shit hits the fan, we're on our toes and moving fast. When there are mass power outages or something major is down, we'll be very busy keeping track of battery voltages, dispatching techs, coordinating stuff etc. We also take after hours support data and 611 calls. There are lot of opportunities to do overtime too. You really have to be a jack of all trades and there's always something new to learn. The DMS alone is huge, there is only a handful of high end experts to be found these days.

Occasionally we also run jumpers on the main distribution frame. There is a dedicated frame person but if he's off or what not one of us does it for the day. I work inside the main CO, so on night or weekend shifts we'll usually walk around the building to make sure everything is ok. It's a pretty cool building.
 
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Red Squirrel

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I know a few people who do 3/12's or overnight shifts. I personally couldn't do overnights but I would love to do 4x10 days. 3 day weekends would be great.

There are desktop support positions 24/7. Lots of places support users in Europe or Asia as well as have to monitor systems 24 / 7.

The overnights are actually easier I find. It's nice to be able to sleep in instead of having to get up early to an alarm while in the middle of deep sleep. The first one is a bit rough since you start to get tired around 4-5am but the others are easy. What's hard is transitioning off though. They try to give us at least 4 days off after, since really the first day does not count. I tried to just stay up once, but I could not do it, by 11am I was so tired I had to crash, that screwed me right up lol. Though I did end up with only 2 days once then had to start 12 days, so that was hard. With day shift, the more I work in a row the more tired I am each day, it's cumulative, while with nights, I could work like 12 in a row if I had to. Figured it out once and if I did work 12 in a row, I'd need to work 2 8's (could take floaters) then I'd get 16 days off. :awe: If ever I need a couple weeks off in a row I'm totally doing that.
 

virtuamike

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I don't understand this either unless your commute is insane. I leave for work around 6 am, get home around 8:30 pm. I hit the gym after work so that's included. I'm also a 3/4 time student and still average 6-7 hrs of sleep on weekdays.

Wake up at 6, take care of the pets, out the door around 7, work by 8. Off at 8, gym for 2 hours, home around 11. More pet stuff, food prep for the next day, rage about my fantasy baseball lineup, sleep hopefully before 1.