Anyone here willing to offer Mac OS 9 Classic help?

robisc

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First off I am a total Mac newbie but trying to learn this OS so no flames please. I acquired an old Starmax 5000 275 mhz Mac Clone here on the Anand forums some time back, it had OS 7 installed from the factory and I have that disk along with the OS 9 disk, right now it has OS 9 installed but the problem is I can't mount a CD. So after a little research I found the following info on the Motorola site:

"If you installed Mac OS 8.0 already and did not have CD-ROM Toolkit installed on your hard drive, you must now install CD-ROM Toolkit from your StarMax CD-ROM. If you reformatted your hard drive and then installed Mac OS 8.0 on it, you must also install CD-ROM Toolkit from your StarMax CD-ROM.

Boot from the StarMax CD-ROM that came with your StarMax computer and install CD-ROM Toolkit on your Mac OS 8.0 hard drive. To boot the CD-ROM, press and hold the C key as the computer is starting or restarting. The CD-ROM Toolkit installer is inside the Bundled Software folder, which is inside the Install Software folder of the StarMax CD-ROM.

When you see the CD-ROM Toolkit installer warning "An item has been found which may conflict with CD-ROM Toolkit: Apple CD-ROM", press the Disable button. You may see a message after this warning that a correct version of CD-ROM Toolkit is not being found. Ignore this and press the Cancel button. The next error message you see warns you that the Preferences file could not be created. Ignore this and press the OK button. The CD-ROM Toolkit application window now appears. First check the On box and then the Fast box. Quit the program and restart your computer.

Immediately after the computer restarts, press the eject button of your CD-ROM drive to remove the StarMax CD-ROM from the CD-ROM Toolkit (see the warning below). After the computer has restarted, CD-ROM Toolkit will be your active CD-ROM extension."

My problem is that after booting from the Starmax CD I see the CD ROM Toolkit installer and try and run it but I get the error: "The selected disk named "untitled" is locked. Please select another disk. This to me seems to mean that there is some type write protection when trying to install over the HDD, I would even be willing to do a format and do a new install onto this HDD, anyone here have any suggestions.
 

Dim

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I suspect the installer is selecting the system folder on the boot disk (i.e., the CD) in which to install the extension. Usually the installer will give you a custom install option, and by using it you can choose the system folder on your hard drive to intall to.

An alternative would be to copy the installer to your hard drive, boot from the hard drive and then run the installer from there.
 

robisc

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I suspect the installer is selecting the system folder on the boot disk (i.e., the CD) in which to install the extension. Usually the installer will give you a custom install option, and by using it you can choose the system folder on your hard drive to intall to.

No, there is an option to select either the CD or the HDD which is "untitled". Both options (CD or HDD) will give this same message about drive being locked, obviously I would be unable to write to the CD but why would I be unable to write to the HDD.


An alternative would be to copy the installer to your hard drive, boot from the hard drive and then run the installer from there.


This would be an alternative but remember I can't access the CD in order ot copy the folder to the HDD, that's the problem.
 

Dim

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How are you running the installer if you can't access the CD. I though you were booting from the CD to run the installer. Haven't ever had to try this, but it seems if you can access the installer on the CD to run it you should be able to copy it over to the HD.
 

Dim

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Just re-read your post. Does the HDD now have OS 9? This is dredging up old memory, but at one point, Apple went from HFS file system to giving you an option of either HFS or extended HFS - similar to FAT 16 vs. FAT 32. If your boot disk is formatted as extended HFS and the CD ROM at HFS that could be the reason you are getting this message.

You could try www.xlr8yourmac.com (can't reach the server right now). It has lots of information about 3rd party CDR and CDRW compatibility with various Mac OSs - might have something about CDROMs as well. I have gottne patched drivers from there to allow me to use 3rd party PC drives with my Mac.
 

robisc

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How are you running the installer if you can't access the CD. I though you were booting from the CD to run the installer. Haven't ever had to try this, but it seems if you can access the installer on the CD to run it you should be able to copy it over to the HD.

I can boot from the CD, that is how I am running the installler, but I can't access the CD when running from the HDD. I will take a look at xlr8yourmac.com
 

bubba

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Look for a utility called Apple DriveSetup or something similar. Run that and see what your drive is set to. That can lock or unlock drives. You can also format/partition from there.

CDROM Toolkit is needed because Apple's CDRom drivers did not support 3rd party CDROMs. There is a version of Apples driver that does support them though. I had a PowerComputing Mac clone and I had to use them in order to use the CDROM.