Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: destrekor
either way, I think veggies are well... not bright. Sure I understand the idea of not hurting animals, but um... its called being an animal ourselves. animals eat animals. sure, some animals don't.. but they aren't our species of animal. I look at it that way, the same way that being a veggie back in the day of caves wouldn't have worked out, because you didn't see the variety of plantlife that could sustain you. Now, we have supermarkets that provide the different plants necessary so a veggie can sustain themselves by getting their nutrients from the required plants.
Yes, you're right. We should only eat things that cavement ate. To eat any different than we ate a million years ago would impede human evolution.
Your argument is ridiculous. Nevermind the fact that you're a total hypocrite if you eat anything that wasn't available to prehistoric humans. You know, like packaged foods.
Is your only reason for vegetarians being "not bright", because thier diet isn't what cavemen ate? Like I said, it's a pretty ridiculous argument.
oi, its not that i want to eat like cavemen.. its simply sort of an anology that obviously failed to present itself properly.
im not trying to even say we need to eat what the cavemen eat that thats it. that wouldn't be good cuz we'd have to hunt the animals and cut them up and roast them over a fire. no fine cuts of meat would exist. and im not saying that aren't bright because they don't eat like cavemen... simply stating our history as an animal and that we shouldn't turn our back on instincts. turning back on instincts is what society has taught us.
again, you are missing the fact that i look at things in two ways. one, i think society has failed and believe that we should live in exactly the same way we used in, in tribes where we fought for dominance over a section of land with clubs and had to catch our food or die. high-tech life is failing the planet and we'll quickly kill ourselves off.
but on the other hand, I am NOT giving up my life to achieve that.
in short, I know what is wrong with mankind but I like the comforts of life as it is.
its apparent that argument wasn't presented strong or everyone has missed it.
i myself care less how one chooses to live, nor do I want to dictate how one should eat. I simply was looking at the matter from one angle, but I live my life from another angle.
see where I am going with that? gotta read my arguments carefully.
Originally posted by: rhino56
Originally posted by: destrekor
oi vegetarians are going against what our kind was supposed to do. don't you vegetarians and vegans have to take like... different vitamins to make up for what you dont get in meat?
man, if it weren't for science, you'd be dead. you people are anti-human evolution. hell, science and their surgeries and medicines are preventing evolution by taking us back. i support science and modern marvels, but also look at how it IS preventing the next step in our evolution. think of it this way: in a natural habitat of our ancestry (caveman like humans), bad eye sight would see you not eating. color blindness might have you eating things that could kill you. other genetic defects would hinder your life, and thus you die and don't pass on your genes. now, we have all these problems that wouldn't even be around if it weren't for science providing fixes, or society providing work-arounds. color-blindness isn't likely to kill anyone because society doesn't necessarily help in any scientific way, but they are there to lend a helping hand when coordinating.
however, bad eye sight... if there weren't glasses, you wouldn't get far. things like that are passed on and now a LOT of society has vision problems that wouldn't be there if we didn't have fixes.
don't think im scientologist though.. i hate them bastards. i look at things from many angles.. i for one, like my glasses/contacts.. now only if they could fix my damned color defeciency.
i would like to think that we are advanced to the point that we arent cave dwellers and so barbaric anymore, at least those of us who are capable of such thoughts, as to be thinking of the evolution and genetic impairments some may have as weakness. when you compare us to the animals you make it like we are right there with them in the food chain and that we are supposed to be killing them like a lion kills an antelope for survival.
But then all of a sudden we are these great thinking machines that can look at genetics, history, evolution and dictate to the universe and all other living things what path they are on.
but when it comes to our children and killing its appalling. either we are in the mix closely like barbaric beasts or we are not. we cannot be both.
thats part of my side-stepped view on life. the more we move to thinking, and away from sharing our lives with other creatures, both in the hunt and in habitat, the more we are slowly killing our entire race.
i view that as a good thing. why stop and throttle back? might as well keep on truckin till we are all dead, or till the majority of life is dead and we realize.. uhoh, we gotta stop. it will take that extreme to show us 'the light'. our planet is not equipped to handle our life as it is, the balance requires us being dumb or extremely smart. we can't be inbetween like we are now. we are no where near the required intellect to co-exist with the rest of life on this planet. now, I don't want to die, but if its with the rest of mankind, I won't mind. If only we were at least smart enough to realize that the planet is better off without us. But sadly we aren't even to that level and won't throttle back.
we are NOT as smart as we are led to believe, we still have strong natural instincts that need to be shed if we want to remain the dominant species and live to the future where we see ourselves colonizing space and living all futuristically where we don't even harm the planet.
like I said, we are in a fine balance between two extremes, and its the most dangerous place to be. since we all know we dont want to live like wild chimps, we need to throttle up and race to the point where we can live on this planet and not harm it. The more we throw its natural balance off, the closer we are to extinction.
Thankfully, we are bright enough to survive whatever the planet throws at us, but if space threw something at us, that can't be escaped so easily. either way, many will die but hopefully their death won't be meaningless.
Facebook
Twitter