anyone here take creatine after workout?

cheapgoose

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so I got some creatine to help me bulk up a bit. damn thing says 5 grams, using a spoon. wth does that mean, big spoon, small spoon? what? they can't throw in a 1/2 cent plastic spoon?

anyway, how do u guys measure? how about using TBS or tsp? thanks. just trying to do this right.
 

jinduy

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i stopped taking creatine... when i was taking it stuff coming out of my butt would always have blood
 
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Originally posted by: cheapgoose
Originally posted by: jinduy
i stopped taking creatine... when i was taking it stuff coming out of my butt would always have blood

:Q

and thanks JoeKing.

Please don't let this stop you from taking it. Shens anyway. Creatine use is well documented and has very good risk vs. reward.
 

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wow i took creatine for a while and had no problems, i researched it for quite awhile it to this date there aren't really any terrible problems with it. i know you need to intake much more water than usual because it does dehydrate you and also, i have heard stories of kidney stones because of the harder work on your kidneys but nothing really first hand with that.

as for the measurements it doesn't have to be perfect. how are you using it in your workout program? you should take it BEFORE working out by atleast an hour. and usually you need to "load up" meaning taking a ton of the stuff for about a week then leveling off at a smaller dose per day from then on.
 
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Originally posted by: res0n0xg
wow i took creatine for a while and had no problems, i researched it for quite awhile it to this date there aren't really any terrible problems with it. i know you need to intake much more water than usual because it does dehydrate you and also, i have heard stories of kidney stones because of the harder work on your kidneys but nothing really first hand with that.

as for the measurements it doesn't have to be perfect. how are you using it in your workout program? you should take it BEFORE working out by atleast an hour. and usually you need to "load up" meaning taking a ton of the stuff for about a week then leveling off at a smaller dose per day from then on.

loading is BS.... Marketing gimmick. Just like liquid creatine/
 

res0n0xg

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i wouldn't think it was bs because its just for a week and then you never do it again. i guess it helps sell that extra bottle for one time.
 

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Originally posted by: res0n0xg
wow i took creatine for a while and had no problems, i researched it for quite awhile it to this date there aren't really any terrible problems with it. i know you need to intake much more water than usual because it does dehydrate you and also, i have heard stories of kidney stones because of the harder work on your kidneys but nothing really first hand with that.

as for the measurements it doesn't have to be perfect. how are you using it in your workout program? you should take it BEFORE working out by atleast an hour. and usually you need to "load up" meaning taking a ton of the stuff for about a week then leveling off at a smaller dose per day from then on.

the documentation i got along said like five tea spoon in 1.5L of water daily for the loading phase then oh i have forgotten now, well you can check at universal's web site, the instructions will be there for their creatine box. but bear in mind one thing, creatine doesn't give more muscles, it only makes u more resistant thus do more workouts, iirc your muscle retains more water something like that so you feel bigger..well search for it man
 
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yeah its a very little amount but I've read numerous reports from my ACSM journal that state loading has no effect. I hope this helps/
 
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Originally posted by: calvinHobbs
Originally posted by: res0n0xg
wow i took creatine for a while and had no problems, i researched it for quite awhile it to this date there aren't really any terrible problems with it. i know you need to intake much more water than usual because it does dehydrate you and also, i have heard stories of kidney stones because of the harder work on your kidneys but nothing really first hand with that.

as for the measurements it doesn't have to be perfect. how are you using it in your workout program? you should take it BEFORE working out by atleast an hour. and usually you need to "load up" meaning taking a ton of the stuff for about a week then leveling off at a smaller dose per day from then on.

the documentation i got along said like five tea spoon in 1.5L of water daily for the loading phase then oh i have forgotten now, well you can check at universal's web site, the instructions will be there for their creatine box. but bear in mind one thing, creatine doesn't give more muscles, it only makes u more resistant thus do more workouts, iirc your muscle retains more water something like that so you feel bigger..well search for it man


Yes, water retention = strength gain
 

cheapgoose

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thanks for all of the replies. I just started today, I'm gonna load for 2 maybe 3 days, then 5 grams a day, after workout. I'm pretty new to working out and such, everything i know, i learned from browsing over at bodybuilding.com.
 

jaedaliu

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From "Exercise Physiology, Human Bioenergetics and Its Applications" by Brooks et. al.....

"The optimal dosage for achieving maximum values of muscle creatine phosphate appear to be 20 g/day for 5 days followed by daily doses of approximately 3-5 g/day. Increasing the intake to 20 g/day resulted in no further increase in total muscle creatine."

goes on to talk about how it's useful for strength-speed athletes and bodybuilders, and can help enhance muscle growth during workouts. and then....

"Creatine use has been linked to diarrhea, dehydration, muscle cramping, and muscle strains. In more than 30 studies -- some conducted for as long as 3 years -- creatine use had no side effects. The often-cited links between creatine, dehydration, and cramps have been refuted repeatedly by scientific studies. College football players who took creatine monohydrate supplements ( 5 to 20 grams per day for up to 5 years) showed no evidence of kidney or liver damage based on the results of standard blood tests."

I know that doesn't answer your question, but thought I'd look it up in my exercise physiology book. It's funny because 3 years ago I took general physiology from Brooks, and he said that the only effect of taking creatine supplements were that you'd pee out more creatine. or was it crap out? whatever it was, he said it was useless.
 

FFactory0x

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Not just after workouts! You gotta take it like 203 times daily the first week to get it in your system. 1 in the morning, then before workout then after. Then from then on 1-2 times daily. I took take it morning and before workout now. One problem people see though is bloating then get off of it. You gotta stay on it though or it wont do anything. Just like working out. You gotta stay with it. Dont stop and occasionally do it or you wont see results
 

FFactory0x

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Yes but that is after you have it in your system. If you do take before workout try to gym it the same tiome each day and use creatine 1 hr before workout so it takes effect. But keep using it!
 

DJFuji

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Before workout is arguably supposed to help to resynthesize ATP (from ADP) after a workout. However, some studies have shown that maximum effectiveness is attained by supplementing AFTER a workout, during which time the body enters a brief catabolic state. This is the "golden timeframe" during which bodybuilders aim to increase protein and supplement uptake.

Loading phase is not just marketing. Research shows that without loading, creatine takes up to a month to reach the same effectiveness. (presumably building up creatine stores in the body gradually instead of through loading)

As for the original question, either use a tablespoon or take a look at how large a tbs is. Then use that to approximate.

Supposedly grape juice (or anything that creates an insulin spike) will maximize uptake since up to 60% of creatine is normally destroyed by stomach acid.
 

cheapgoose

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Originally posted by: DJFuji
Before workout is arguably supposed to help to resynthesize ATP (from ADP) after a workout. However, some studies have shown that maximum effectiveness is attained by supplementing AFTER a workout, during which time the body enters a brief catabolic state. This is the "golden timeframe" during which bodybuilders aim to increase protein and supplement uptake.

Loading phase is not just marketing. Research shows that without loading, creatine takes up to a month to reach the same effectiveness. (presumably building up creatine stores in the body gradually instead of through loading)

As for the original question, either use a tablespoon or take a look at how large a tbs is. Then use that to approximate.

Supposedly grape juice (or anything that creates an insulin spike) will maximize uptake since up to 60% of creatine is normally destroyed by stomach acid.

thanks, I'm using a round tsp. and i'm using grape juice to mix he powder. After loading, I plan on taking it before workout, and whey proteien and glutamine after work out.
 

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Originally posted by: cheapgoose
so I got some creatine to help me bulk up a bit. damn thing says 5 grams, using a spoon. wth does that mean, big spoon, small spoon? what? they can't throw in a 1/2 cent plastic spoon?

anyway, how do u guys measure? how about using TBS or tsp? thanks. just trying to do this right.

Who doesn't know how big a spoon is?
Stupid Americans.