Anyone here a private pilot?

manlymatt83

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I just started taking lessons! I'm pretty excited about it. Here's me in front of the Cessna 172S I'm learning on...

http://i.imgur.com/zKZmMR0.jpg

Anyone else here have their license? How long did it take you? What are you doing with it now? Glad you got it?
 

gorb

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I'm no pilot but we have a lot of Cessnas here at work (mostly 206H and T206H models). Good luck in your training :)
 

Scarpozzi

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I'm not licensed, but have quite a few hours and landings. I stopped taking lessons because of money, insurance, and feasibility. I ended up moving about a year after I started flying... It's definitely fun. Crosswind landings, stalls (pitch & power), and just the feel of the airplane are all very challenging and fun to learn.
 

drinkmorejava

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I took lessons at ECAC at Hanscom for a while. Flying was fun but also nerve racking. Life got in the way and I never finished. I've soloed several times. I think I have about 35 hours.

If you can't fly at least once, if not twice, a week I can't recommend doing it. You won't build your competency up fast enough.
 

manlymatt83

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I took lessons at ECAC at Hanscom for a while. Flying was fun but also nerve racking. Life got in the way and I never finished. I've soloed several times. I think I have about 35 hours.

If you can't fly at least once, if not twice, a week I can't recommend doing it. You won't build your competency up fast enough.

I'm going once per week. Out of Hanscom actually!
 

Yossarian

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I used to have a private pilot certificate, but I continued training and went on to commercial. I'm a part time flight instructor now. It took me 14 weeks to get my private in 2002,flying 2-3 times a week. Happy to answer any questions you have!

If you'd like a book recommendation, check out Rod Machado's "How to Fly an Airplane Handbook". It's the best I've seen at breaking down and explaining everything you need to do, in detail.
 

alkemyst

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My old boss and also a friend from high school are private pilots. Both have basic jet ratings (not sure what that means) and they can fly multiple people.

My high school friend flies missionary work stuff. My old boss only teaches now.
 

Kaido

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skyking

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Congrats!
I too am a commercial pilot and instructor, single and multi engine, seaplane.
I ran through the ratings over about two years time, 28 years ago now. Don't fly as often as I used to. The last big trip was in 2007.
 

Kaido

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Congrats!
I too am a commercial pilot and instructor, single and multi engine, seaplane.
I ran through the ratings over about two years time, 28 years ago now. Don't fly as often as I used to. The last big trip was in 2007.

^ listen to this guy, he has some super interesting stuff to say about airplanes :D :thumbsup:

Also, now that you've been bitten by the aviation bug, you need to read "Flight of Passage" by Rinker Buck:

http://www.amazon.com/Flight-Passage...dp/B00BEFNI7W/

Not only one of the funniest books I've ever read, but also a great story about a couple of kids who flew across America in a Piper Cub - living the dream! Although they would probably be shot by Homeland Security if they did it today :biggrin:
 

skyking

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Was it worth it? It was for me. I have several log books of good times, no regrets.
One of my friends got the bug flying with me, and has moved out to Danbury CT. He would be a good guy to get with. He has gone as far as the instrument rating.
 

Ruptga

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My dad's instrument rated, though he doesn't like to fly outside of VFR. It's something he always wanted to do, so about ten years ago he got around to getting his license and a plane. These days he uses it whenever he needs to travel further than about five hours of driving can take him, weather permitting. He still enjoys it, but since mom doesn't like to travel that way he doesn't use it a lot.
 

Kaido

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Was it worth it? It was for me. I have several log books of good times, no regrets.
One of my friends got the bug flying with me, and has moved out to Danbury CT. He would be a good guy to get with. He has gone as far as the instrument rating.

Yeah, I think flying small planes is mainly a personal thing of intrinsic value. Unless you want to teach or move up to commercial, or maybe do some camera work or aerial tours or something, it's not like there's a ton of money in it, and everything is expensive - getting your ticket, fuel & rentals, etc, so kind of have to really love it & decide that it's worth it as a hobby for you or not.

Also, Windham or bust man :biggrin:
 

mikeford

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Getting your license isn't hard, usually about 30 hours instruction, maybe twice that solo time depending on you, some do it in half that. What is hard is the first biannual flight test when they expect you to have learned how to really fly. I miss it, but costs and time went in opposite directions.

What is hard, is to do it casually, not flying frequently enough to improve skills. Unless you are rich you need to make friends with some who are, not a cheap hobby.
 

Red Squirrel

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That's awesome!

I always thought it would be awesome to learn how to fly a plane. VERY expensive to get into though.

I've actually only been in a plane 8 times (2 separate trips) and it was awesome. Never been in a small plane like a Cessna though but I imagine that would probably be even more fun. Mind you the Dash-8s are a lot of fun when there's turbulence. :p You know shit is about to get real when the seatbelt sign goes on.
 

Kaido

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Getting your license isn't hard, usually about 30 hours instruction, maybe twice that solo time depending on you, some do it in half that. What is hard is the first biannual flight test when they expect you to have learned how to really fly. I miss it, but costs and time went in opposite directions.

What is hard, is to do it casually, not flying frequently enough to improve skills. Unless you are rich you need to make friends with some who are, not a cheap hobby.

Yeah, a lot of guys I know who do it are single & have disposable income. I forget what the going rate is, but last time I checked it was something like $60 an hour.on the rentals.

Proficiency is the name of the game. That's why rich doctors & lawyers with awesome airplanes always die spectacular deaths in them - they have crazy-great technology inside their expensive planes, but they don't give it the time it requires, and if you make a serious mistake in the air, it's not like driving a car - adding that third dimension is an entirely different animal, haha. This hobby will kill you if you're not careful, no joke!
 

Kaido

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That's awesome!

I always thought it would be awesome to learn how to fly a plane. VERY expensive to get into though.

I've actually only been in a plane 8 times (2 separate trips) and it was awesome. Never been in a small plane like a Cessna though but I imagine that would probably be even more fun. Mind you the Dash-8s are a lot of fun when there's turbulence. :p You know shit is about to get real when the seatbelt sign goes on.

It's pretty fun. If you play the game right, you an avoid the bulk of the turbulence - i.e. don't fly in the middle of the day, do sunrises or evenings instead, don't fly on nasty days, etc.

Flying actually feels pretty slow once you're up there, even if you're in a fast plane - sort of like puttering around in a car. Super peaceful to look down over the ground from up so high though, it's just an entirely different perspective when you're in the cockpit steering yourself around the sky. Makes all your IRL problems seem insignificant :)
 

Perknose

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My Dad got his pilot's license in his 70's. Last went through the written and physical exams at 88, just for the challenge. Died at 89.
 

John Connor

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I only fly in FS2004. LOL! My install is 45 GB. But I may never be able to fly for real as I am color blind and I always wanted to fly for FedEx or UPS.
 

Mutilator

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Got my private pilot May 2013. Started training the previous July and had a few times where I would go an entire month if not more between flights depending on the weather, plane, and instructor availability - morning fog was a PITA for me. I was aiming to fly once or twice per week but for me it ultimately didn't matter. I was able to retain what I had learned from each lesson and after I had a dozen or so hours in the real thing I purchased FSX, TrackIR, and the Saitek Cessna setup and started using that the proper way. Got all the goodies - GEX, REX, UTX, home airport I fly out of, etc. and used it just like I was flying the real thing. It was a training tool, not a game. I remember early on even doing imaginary walk around preflights on an invisible Cessna in my kitchen lol. Eventually I even put my Ipad Mini on my yoke mount and used Foreflight in the sim as well and would practice my cross country flights ahead of time.

I was ready for my check ride a couple hours before the required 40 minimum. Ended up taking it once I had around 41 or 42 hours and surprisingly had very little stress that day. The average these days is up in the ~60-80 hour range I believe. I don't think I landed on my own on the first flight, but know I did on the 2nd. Some people will go dozens of flights before their instructor will hand over the controls for a landing. Everyone learns in different ways and at different paces. That's something you have to keep in mind. It doesn't matter how long it takes you to solo, it doesn't matter how long it takes you to get your certificate, all that matters if that you stick with it and enjoy the process. Less than one quarter of one percent of people are private pilots. It's kinda like riding a motorcycle - as soon as you get one you're instantly part of a club. You immediately have something in common with pretty much everyone you meet at every airport you land at.

Now that I'm back to working full time I don't get to fly as often as I'd like - kinda like during my flight training my days off work and the weather don't always seem to see eye to eye. The last time I flew was back at Labor Day when I (finally) took my nephew up for the first time. Flew around for about an hour and took pictures and videos of our houses from about 2500ft. Needless to say he enjoyed it quite a bit. This was the 3rd or 4th attempt at getting that kid off the ground. Each time I'd have to cancel due to fog, or low clouds that hadn't quite lifted and broken enough, or someone being sick. Hell, one time I even went and flew around the pattern a few times by myself to get my required landings before carrying passengers out of the way, landed and got my passengers briefed and seatbelted in and damn if the plane didn't want to start back up afterwards no matter what I did, even asked an instructor to make sure I was doing everything right. That one sucked the most. I know we could have waited 30 minutes and it would have been fine but he hadn't been feeling well that weekend anyway so we just called it off and waited until the next time he visited. We were convinced he was just cursed and wasn't meant to leave the ground lol. But in the end it all worked out and I held up my end of the bargain - gave a kid a memory he'll never forget, and delivered him home safe to Mom at the end of the day.

And for those of you thinking about starting this process... go take an introductory flight. If you have a flying club nearby do what I did, show up on a Saturday afternoon and meet some people, get a tour, etc. I ended up going up with president of our club that day while she went up for some simulated instrument approaches. This was the first time I had ever been in a plane. Little nervous at first but after 10 minutes in the air I realized I was perfectly relaxed with my hands resting on my lap instead of clinching on to whatever they could grab like they had been doing at takeoff lol. As for costs - yes ultimately you're going to spend several thousand dollars to learn to fly (and continue flying) airplanes. But it doesn't all come at once. If you have $200-300/month you can learn to fly a plane. That'll get you 2-3 flights per month which may be enough if you can retain what you learn. Yeah, it might take longer than someone that can fly 2 or 3 times a week but then again it might not. And flight hours are flight hours... they all add up and you keep that log book forever. So yeah, maybe life does get in the way, but one day you can come back to it, knock off the rust, and get back up to speed and finish what you started.

I could keep typing but this is already long enough... and I've gotta get ready for work. :p
 

John Connor

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The flight sim is a good tool to use to prep for flights I imagine. You can download sat imagery and mimic the real life ground. I do have my town installed. I use all those addons you mention and I just replaced UT with another addon that I can't remember the name of at the moment. Could be ORBX. It's been conerted for FS2004 though. I do have FSX Deluxe, but I have way too much invested in FS2004 to really use it. I do want to get the PMDG 737 NGX for FSX because that is by far the best simulated 737 I have seen. I do have the PMDG 737 in FS2004, but the INS and HUD isn't simulated like the one in FSX. FMC and all that is though. In FSX's version you can even change the type of brakes! I have all of RealityXP's gauges and they are awesome! I use FSPanel studio to add them to the cockpit. http://www.reality-xp.com/flightsim/index.ht

I want to install Prepar3D as you can use that to train with. http://www.prepar3d.com/

FSX addons and planes are compatible.
 
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