anyone have someone that tries to micromanage you?

Syrch

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I was asked to learn a department at work and i did. Well the girl that trained me had me do a project for her which took me no more than 30 minutes to do. Anyhow when i go and give it back to her she looks it over and says:

"we usually write this stuff in pencil first then instead of leaving this part in pencil we erase it and write it in pen. Oh and instead of writing on here that you send an email we use an arrow sticky note by that line and write on the sticky, in pencil, that we went an email.


God i wanted to slap this person.

/rant off
 

kranky

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Reminds me of that Dilbert when the PHB says "I've decided to become more of a hands-on manager. Move the mouse up...more...more...now click it. CLICK IT, YOU FOOL!"

Dilbert's thought balloon: "This has long day written all over it."
 

slsmnaz

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Sounds like she's giving you the correct procedure rather than micromanaging.
 

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Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Sounds like she's giving you the correct procedure rather than micromanaging.

exactly, easier to have everyone do it the same way then for everything to be different

 

Syrch

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Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Sounds like she's giving you the correct procedure rather than micromanaging.

Not really. I asked her if there was anything I could help them with. She was sitting there eatting a bagel, she said no but this project needs to be done. This project was hers to begin with and the notes on it are simply for who ever did it to use as reference. If she doesn't like the way I do it she can do it herself imho.

Another example. They have on a shared drive an excel spreadsheet that 5 people update regularly. Everytime i went to go in it someone was already there. When i finally got into it i saved a copy locally and now i just copy my changes to it when i can. She saw this and about flipped. Let me assure you EVERYTHING is the same. There are no fancy formulas to get ruined. Its simply data. She said....we don't do it that way. And i said i have better things to do than sit here waiting for you to close this sheet. I'll do it here and when you are done i'll copy it.

Maybe im just a rebel.
 

slsmnaz

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Originally posted by: Syrch
Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Sounds like she's giving you the correct procedure rather than micromanaging.

Not really. This project was heres and the notes on it are simply for who ever did it to use as reference. If she doesn't like the way I do it she can do it herself imho.

Eventually you will need to do your own and will want to follow the correct procedure. Sounds like she is just showing you what it needs to look like. Maybe the people receiving the project have better things to do than learn your "new and improved" method.
 

Syrch

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Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Originally posted by: Syrch
Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Sounds like she's giving you the correct procedure rather than micromanaging.

Not really. This project was heres and the notes on it are simply for who ever did it to use as reference. If she doesn't like the way I do it she can do it herself imho.

Eventually you will need to do your own and will want to follow the correct procedure. Sounds like she is just showing you what it needs to look like. Maybe the people receiving the project have better things to do than learn your "new and improved" method.

not at all, no one receives it. The produres that have to be followed are in place when the project is edited on the as400 not writing notes on the pages. The notes are simply for me to view. No one else.
 

thepd7

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Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Originally posted by: Syrch
Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Sounds like she's giving you the correct procedure rather than micromanaging.

Not really. This project was heres and the notes on it are simply for who ever did it to use as reference. If she doesn't like the way I do it she can do it herself imho.

Eventually you will need to do your own and will want to follow the correct procedure. Sounds like she is just showing you what it needs to look like. Maybe the people receiving the project have better things to do than learn your "new and improved" method.

LOL sounds like you are a micro-manager. If something gets done and the end result is correct, does it really matter how it gets done as long as it doesn't take a significant amount of time or resources more than the original "correct" way?
 

slsmnaz

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Originally posted by: thepd7
Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Originally posted by: Syrch
Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Sounds like she's giving you the correct procedure rather than micromanaging.

Not really. This project was heres and the notes on it are simply for who ever did it to use as reference. If she doesn't like the way I do it she can do it herself imho.

Eventually you will need to do your own and will want to follow the correct procedure. Sounds like she is just showing you what it needs to look like. Maybe the people receiving the project have better things to do than learn your "new and improved" method.

LOL sounds like you are a micro-manager. If something gets done and the end result is correct, does it really matter how it gets done as long as it doesn't take a significant amount of time or resources more than the original "correct" way?

When you are submitting to certain people the presentation matters (the OP lacks many, many details). In a past job as an estimator we had to submit all products being used to the engineers for approval. They wanted them in a certain order, products marked exactly as described and they would send it back if it was not correct. The time to re-do or correct could mean lots of money or a lost order, especially on gov't jobs. When you lose a job (and commission) because you allowed someone else to use their method it starts to matter.
 

Syrch

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Originally posted by: yankeesfan
Just agree with her and ignore what she says when you do your job.

I pretty much do....just so annoying. Truly feels like a dilbert comic strip
 

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Originally posted by: Syrch
Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Sounds like she's giving you the correct procedure rather than micromanaging.

Not really. I asked her if there was anything I could help them with. She was sitting there eatting a bagel, she said no but this project needs to be done. This project was hers to begin with and the notes on it are simply for who ever did it to use as reference. If she doesn't like the way I do it she can do it herself imho.

Another example. They have on a shared drive an excel spreadsheet that 5 people update regularly. Everytime i went to go in it someone was already there. When i finally got into it i saved a copy locally and now i just copy my changes to it when i can. She saw this and about flipped. Let me assure you EVERYTHING is the same. There are no fancy formulas to get ruined. Its simply data. She said....we don't do it that way. And i said i have better things to do than sit here waiting for you to close this sheet. I'll do it here and when you are done i'll copy it.

Maybe im just a rebel.

if you're putting your data in without getting the updates from other people you're probably pasting over others work when you go back into the network one.
 

Syrch

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not at all, i can't do anything to the one every uses until im in it solo, Then I copy into the blank cells.
 

lokiju

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Yes! But nothing was worse than working with you!

EDIT:

Actually the complete opposite is not so good also.

Last place I was working in FL, my manager didn't manage anything at all.

So he'd forget to tell me to do something and then freak out when it wouldn't be done. He was hands down the worst manager I've ever had, of course last I heard he was fired.
 
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Originally posted by: Syrch
Originally posted by: yankeesfan
Just agree with her and ignore what she says when you do your job.

I pretty much do....just so annoying. Truly feels like a dilbert comic strip

It's weird how my understanding of Dilbert went up by 1000% when I started working :(
 

Syrch

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Originally posted by: George P Burdell
Originally posted by: Syrch
Originally posted by: yankeesfan
Just agree with her and ignore what she says when you do your job.

I pretty much do....just so annoying. Truly feels like a dilbert comic strip

It's weird how my understanding of Dilbert went up by 1000% when I started working :(

This really is true. It amazes me now that when i was out busting my butt mowing yards as a kid and what not i always wanted a "desk job" and thought it would be the life. Now that i have a desk job i'd love to go back to that freedom....
 

PepePeru

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Originally posted by: Syrch
Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Sounds like she's giving you the correct procedure rather than micromanaging.

Not really. I asked her if there was anything I could help them with. She was sitting there eatting a bagel, she said no but this project needs to be done. This project was hers to begin with and the notes on it are simply for who ever did it to use as reference. If she doesn't like the way I do it she can do it herself imho.

Another example. They have on a shared drive an excel spreadsheet that 5 people update regularly. Everytime i went to go in it someone was already there. When i finally got into it i saved a copy locally and now i just copy my changes to it when i can. She saw this and about flipped. Let me assure you EVERYTHING is the same. There are no fancy formulas to get ruined. Its simply data. She said....we don't do it that way. And i said i have better things to do than sit here waiting for you to close this sheet. I'll do it here and when you are done i'll copy it.

Maybe im just a rebel.

sounds like you need a fresh island song to cool your hot temper.

 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: Syrch
This really is true. It amazes me now that when i was out busting my butt mowing yards as a kid and what not i always wanted a "desk job" and thought it would be the life. Now that i have a desk job i'd love to go back to that freedom....
I'd certainly hope that the paychecks are better now.

 

thepd7

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Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Originally posted by: thepd7
Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Originally posted by: Syrch
Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Sounds like she's giving you the correct procedure rather than micromanaging.

Not really. This project was heres and the notes on it are simply for who ever did it to use as reference. If she doesn't like the way I do it she can do it herself imho.

Eventually you will need to do your own and will want to follow the correct procedure. Sounds like she is just showing you what it needs to look like. Maybe the people receiving the project have better things to do than learn your "new and improved" method.

LOL sounds like you are a micro-manager. If something gets done and the end result is correct, does it really matter how it gets done as long as it doesn't take a significant amount of time or resources more than the original "correct" way?

When you are submitting to certain people the presentation matters (the OP lacks many, many details). In a past job as an estimator we had to submit all products being used to the engineers for approval. They wanted them in a certain order, products marked exactly as described and they would send it back if it was not correct. The time to re-do or correct could mean lots of money or a lost order, especially on gov't jobs. When you lose a job (and commission) because you allowed someone else to use their method it starts to matter.

Oh absolutely if this is going to a customer or something it matters, but at my job there is a purpose (mail out an appeal to an insurance company). 4 of us do it (all temps) and we all do it differently and notate differently. Does it matter? Nope, it still gets mailed out correctly, we just arrive at that point in a different way. The end result is the same paperwork gets mailed to the same people.
 

Syrch

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Originally posted by: thepd7
Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Originally posted by: thepd7
Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Originally posted by: Syrch
Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Sounds like she's giving you the correct procedure rather than micromanaging.

Not really. This project was heres and the notes on it are simply for who ever did it to use as reference. If she doesn't like the way I do it she can do it herself imho.

Eventually you will need to do your own and will want to follow the correct procedure. Sounds like she is just showing you what it needs to look like. Maybe the people receiving the project have better things to do than learn your "new and improved" method.

LOL sounds like you are a micro-manager. If something gets done and the end result is correct, does it really matter how it gets done as long as it doesn't take a significant amount of time or resources more than the original "correct" way?

When you are submitting to certain people the presentation matters (the OP lacks many, many details). In a past job as an estimator we had to submit all products being used to the engineers for approval. They wanted them in a certain order, products marked exactly as described and they would send it back if it was not correct. The time to re-do or correct could mean lots of money or a lost order, especially on gov't jobs. When you lose a job (and commission) because you allowed someone else to use their method it starts to matter.

Oh absolutely if this is going to a customer or something it matters, but at my job there is a purpose (mail out an appeal to an insurance company). 4 of us do it (all temps) and we all do it differently and notate differently. Does it matter? Nope, it still gets mailed out correctly, we just arrive at that point in a different way. The end result is the same paperwork gets mailed to the same people.

Yeah sorry if i didn't give enough details. The notes that the person is trying to critique are my notes that i view. I have a stack on my desk in my office that if something isn't complete it goes there. Everything else gets filed. This is the way i work and it works very well for me. The person is basically telling me how to make my own personal notes on projects to match the way she makes her own personal notes. The only person that will ever see them is me. The only reason she saw them is b/c this was her project and i was helping out by doing the work for her. If she needs a pink arrowed sticky note that says an email was sent then she needs to add that. If she needs stuff written in pen so it grasps her attention then she can do that. I can't make personal notes for her. The work was done and the work was right.

Imagine someone in school telling you that you aren't writting your notes they way they do and you need to highlight your titles in pink instead of orange. Its that type of crap that this person is trying to pull and i can't help but roll my eyes.