Anyone have joint pain?

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I buy a case of Joint Juice from Sam's Club each month. It's a glucosamine and chondroitin supplement. I'm 32 and fairly active and seem to be able to tell when I've been taking it and not taking it. When I do consume regularly my knees are in a lot better shape and my fingers and feet don't crack near as much.

FWIW, my wife is a pharmacist and it's the only supplement that she has read clinical review studies on as being effective. Well that and fish oil.
 

destrekor

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Snake oil

I've never done anything for joint pain other than COX-Inhibitors, but I wouldn't mind trying something that taking daily is perfectly safe.

Been doing a little research on glucosamine and chondroitin, and it does appear to offer some very real benefits... but I'm not seeing much mention of it doing anything beneficial for anything other than arthritis.

Not all joint discomfort and pain is actually true arthritis, and I'd like to see if something would help my back out other than a constant supply of NSAIDs. I'm not comfortable using NSAIDs every day (I'd love too, for sure, but I try to make sure I go a day or two without it following steady use of it for a few days). NSAIDs help my back and neck, but there has got to be something out there that can help just the same. Shit, I'm only 23... I can't be relying on actual pain-relief medicine forever... I'd love to use some kind of supplements to help out with the discomfort/pain. I'd prefer to use natural supplements rather than drugs for every single ailment if possible.
 

destrekor

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I buy a case of Joint Juice from Sam's Club each month. It's a glucosamine and chondroitin supplement. I'm 32 and fairly active and seem to be able to tell when I've been taking it and not taking it. When I do consume regularly my knees are in a lot better shape and my fingers and feet don't crack near as much.

FWIW, my wife is a pharmacist and it's the only supplement that she has read clinical review studies on as being effective. Well that and fish oil.

I'd love for someone to claim fish oil is a fraud. I'd love to see them make a fool of themselves claiming such. :D
When our civilization (on this side of the Atlantic, at least) consumes more Omega 6s than Omega 3s, getting more Omega 3s will always be beneficial. You should always get more 3s than 6s, clinical studies for different things basically show it has benefits all over the body - neurologial, cardiovascular, joint-health (least effective at this, iirc), even tear quality. I was recently diagnosed with Dry Eye Syndrome, I really need into taking fish oil pills on a daily basis.
 

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I take 2 grams a day of bulk cissus powder. It's no miracle cure, but I do notice a big difference compared to glucosamine and fish oil alone.
 

destrekor

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I take 2 grams a day of bulk cissus powder. It's no miracle cure, but I do notice a big difference compared to glucosamine and fish oil alone.

What exactly is this cissus powder? I found it is Cissus Quadrangularis, but I'm not really finding the actual medical properties other than old-school treatments.

I'm looking for something to try, just can't determine which is going to be the best all-around supplement. Back and neck pain are my major ailments, alongside wrist discomfort on occasion and lower-leg discomfort (sometimes knees, but mostly ligaments and tendons in the lower leg, if I'm right about which exact areas the pain flairs from).
 

surfsatwerk

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What exactly is this cissus powder? I found it is Cissus Quadrangularis, but I'm not really finding the actual medical properties other than old-school treatments.

I'm looking for something to try, just can't determine which is going to be the best all-around supplement. Back and neck pain are my major ailments, alongside wrist discomfort on occasion and lower-leg discomfort (sometimes knees, but mostly ligaments and tendons in the lower leg, if I'm right about which exact areas the pain flairs from).

http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/uspowders/bulk-super-cissus-rx-100-grams.html

That is the exact product I use. It has mild analgesic and anti-inflammatory effects, no science just what they advertise. I read a ton of positive reviews on several fitness forums so I gave it a shot.

Google "cissus reviews" and you can dig through and see what you think.
 

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You know, you could always EAT MORE FISH!


One thing that they have found with most things is that the compounds, when in their natural form/place, are more effective than when extracted and/or concentrated.

Vitamin C, Calcium, Antioxidants. All of them. Better to drink a glass of milk than take a pill, a glass of tea rather than an extract, or have some Sushi instead of CLO... (bleh).


As for Shark Cartelege? BS. Don't buy it. A lot of "remedies" are usually given with other things (or done with other things) that may have more of an effect than the substance itself. Many "remedies" are all psycosomatic. Your brain can do a HELL of a lot.

So, as an active individual with LOTS of joint pain, all I can tell you is to start documenting your activities and when you start feeling these pains the most. I am having problems right now with my IT band and I find that it was probably the hip adduction (spread your legs) exercise that started it, and now sitting and playing games too long in an awkward position that aggravates it.

I think I tried the glucosamine to no real effect, but YMMV.

But again, EAT RIGHT, and if something feels "funny", STOP DOING IT! It is one thing to feel strain pain, it is another to start feeling injuries developing and ignoring them.
 

alkemyst

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Glucosamin and MSM work for me. The Costco brand was actually recommended by a few joint specialists when I mentioned I was taking Cosamin-DS (much more expensive, but it's highly trusted).

Works great for my elbow that I blew out a few years ago, but does nothing for my shoulders (which my be an impingment issue, I am seeing a doctor now for it).

Not all people respond to all products so what works/doesn't work for someone may give you a different experience.
 

surfsatwerk

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But again, EAT RIGHT, and if something feels "funny", STOP DOING IT! It is one thing to feel strain pain, it is another to start feeling injuries developing and ignoring them.

What you're saying is reasonable, but I'm not interested in limiting my activities because of joint pain. I use all the crap I do so I can be active without pain.