I'm still stuck on a Radeon VE but I haven't been playing games for some time, so no biggie for me. Anyway, I'ms tarting to get back into gaming, and yes I'll be upgrading fairly soon. But, I too noticed an improvement. You know, if my Radeon VE and the 9x00 line card gets improvement, isn't it possible those with the 8500 or 7x00 cards will also see an improvement? I would think they would, and you know, if you think about it, had ATI found this improvement some time back, their launch of the 8500 may have turned out to be somewhat better.