Anyone have a Dell 1900FP?

bkoch1

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Feb 24, 2003
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Anyone else with a 1900FP, could you please take a close look at your monitor and followup to this message, thanks!

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I received a Dell 1900FP 19" LCD monitor with a system as part of the LCD promotion a few weeks ago.

In the first five minutes, I noticed a problem:

When the screen is dark (displaying a dark background), but powered on, curved "smudges" are visible about 1" in from the sides and bottom. The lines a reminiscent of the lines left when spreading a paste (like peanut butter on toast for instance). They appear in two areas, like two U's or elongated C's side by side, on the left and right sides of the screen, and each "U" is about 5 inches wide and go almost to the top of the screen.

I thought it was my settings, so I tried a different DVI cable, reloaded the drivers, reset, etc etc. I hooked up a 1702FP, and saw no lines. I then checked the 1900fp display without input and by switching from analog to digital, and the lines/smudges are still there. If the monitor has power/is lit, they are visible.

Of particular annoyance was a bright thumbprint sized/shape smudge right about 1" in and up from the lower left corner.

Now I know that LCDs are manually "combed" or brushed during production, and since these lines are inside the polarizing layer, I assumed I just got a bad monitor.

So I RMAed it.

Now the new one has the similar lines in the same areas, but now the brightest one is about 1" in from the left and runs ubout 6" up. I had another person look at it and they thought it looked like a glare from a background light it was so noticeable. This 2nd LCD is even worse than the first one.

Again, these lines are visible in a darkened room, with and without signal from the PC, and are not from a flaw to the surface itself, which is perfect and scratch free.

When looking closely at the screen when displaying a solid test screen of black or dark blue, you can see the square shapes of the pixels in these areas are actually a lighter color.

Is this a case of bad pixels? The pixels are not stuck on in a solid bright dot as I am used to seeing on LCDs, but are more of a not-quite dark enough color. If so, there are hundred of bad pixels in swathes.

Or could this be a problem with the polarizing film itself being misapplied? Just by looking at the lines, they look manually contrived, not something done by a machine, esp since the 2nd LCD does not have the exact same flaws in the same positions.

I would appreciate if any moniter tech heads would reply or if Dell could shoot this over to their engineers and see if they have an idea. I had a very hard time explaining this to the tech on the phone, and he only stopped making me follow the idiot-proof testing when I told him I have handled dozens of LCDs and had already determined that this was not a signal problem.

Thanks!

Bill
 
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Yes, I've seen something similar -- but not so pronounced as what you're seeing. One of my 1900FPs has a region that, when the screen is supposed to be black, shows slightly lighter -- i.e. a black screen is not uniformly black. It's not really bad on mine, and since the panel has no stuck or deal pixels that I can see I decided to keep it. I can't see this imperfection at all except when the screen is black.
 

bkoch1

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Feb 24, 2003
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That's the same problem I am having.. if it was just one area I could live with it, but in two large areas, it looks like a manufacturing flaw. I am glad that someone else is seeing this and it is not just my imagination.

The flaw is especially noticable after using the 1702FP which had no "light" areas, other than the slight increase in overall brightness one usually sees at the edges (as you get close to the backlight tube).

If they can't ship me a good one I will have to demand a 2000FP instead.. darn it :)

Thanks!