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Anyone have 5000K hids??

Twista

Twista

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Im wondering if you have any pictures taken when driving at night time.

Also, is the light pure white?? Im looking for a pure white theme w/o the odd green/yellow colors that comes with some hids.
 
Yea, I do. No pictures. But the color switches from RED, GREEN, BLUE, WHITE from time to time. BLINK BLINK! My car's headlight totally rock yo' Christmas tree!
 
Originally posted by: andylawcc
i thought anything under 7000k will be yellowish.

cuz 7000-8000k is blight white, and 10000k above is purple-ish
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is my sarcasm meter broken?
anything above 6000K is useless. 8000K is basically purple

OP, dont get anything above 5000K. are you going to be putting them in reflectors? or projectors? you're gonna get crappy light throw with reflectors. take the time and retrofit projectors if anything
 
Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: andylawcc
i thought anything under 7000k will be yellowish.

cuz 7000-8000k is blight white, and 10000k above is purple-ish
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is my sarcasm meter broken?
anything above 6000K is useless. 8000K is basically purple

OP, dont get anything above 5000K. are you going to be putting them in reflectors? or projectors? you're gonna get crappy light throw with reflectors. take the time and retrofit projectors if anything
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I brought projectors (non rice kind) and im buying the hid conversion kit tonight. Im thinking of getting 5000K since it seems less ricey. I want 99% pure crystal white and 1% of blue showing through the lights.
 
Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: andylawcc
i thought anything under 7000k will be yellowish.

cuz 7000-8000k is blight white, and 10000k above is purple-ish
Click to expand...

is my sarcasm meter broken?
anything above 6000K is useless. 8000K is basically purple

OP, dont get anything above 5000K. are you going to be putting them in reflectors? or projectors? you're gonna get crappy light throw with reflectors. take the time and retrofit projectors if anything
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no, I read that on a Philip's ad...

maybe I have been seriously mislead.
 
Originally posted by: Twista
Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: andylawcc
i thought anything under 7000k will be yellowish.

cuz 7000-8000k is blight white, and 10000k above is purple-ish
Click to expand...

is my sarcasm meter broken?
anything above 6000K is useless. 8000K is basically purple

OP, dont get anything above 5000K. are you going to be putting them in reflectors? or projectors? you're gonna get crappy light throw with reflectors. take the time and retrofit projectors if anything
Click to expand...

I brought projectors (non rice kind) and im buying the hid conversion kit tonight. Im thinking of getting 5000K since it seems less ricey. I want 99% pure crystal white and 1% of blue showing through the lights.
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5000K will do. All OEM HIDs use 4300K since that has the most lumens. Its not the color temp of the HIDs that give it that blue look u see in other cars. its the cutoff inside that projector that refracts blue wavelengths slightly highter than the rest giving a band of blue above the cutoff line. Thus the blue u see in other cars HIDs
 
AFAIK 6K is a typical intensity and perfectly bright. A little on the blue side but can't be helped, as white as it gets.
 
These are 5700K HIDs on my MDX. The fog lights are actually the same as the headlights. The lights are somewhat blueish. I recently switched to 5000K HIDs from McCollough because one of my ballasts went bad. The 5000K is better IMO. It's close to white with a hint of blue. The 5700K were blue with a hint of white.
 
Originally posted by: Aharami
Its not the color temp of the HIDs that give it that blue look u see in other cars. its the cutoff inside that projector that refracts blue wavelengths slightly highter than the rest giving a band of blue above the cutoff line. Thus the blue u see in other cars HIDs
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Whoa, so wrong. So, so wrong.

Blue _always_ diffracts more than other colors, it is much more easily scattered. Traditional halogen bulbs produce almost no light in the blue/violet end of the spectrum. HID lights produce a distinct blue/violet componant, which will always be scattered more. This scattering of the blue/violet componant of the light is what you see. It is NOT related to reflector/projector design. It is related to the physical characteristics of the blue/violet wavelengths.

Human eyes are most sensitive to light from the red/yellow end of the spectrum (that is, we are best able to distinguish shapes with red/yellow light). It is also red/yellow light that triggers the pupil's response and causes it to constrict when the light is too bright. Human eyes are not very sensitive to blue light (in terms of resolving ability). Blue light is also a VERY weak trigger for pupil constriction which means that not only do we not resolve objects as well under blue light, we also are vastly more susceptable to glare from blue light. This is compounded by the fact that blue light scatters the most in poor conditions like rain and fog.

ZV
 
Originally posted by: Twista
Im wondering if you have any pictures taken when driving at night time.

Also, is the light pure white?? Im looking for a pure white theme w/o the odd green/yellow colors that comes with some hids.
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In theory, D65 is "sunlight" white (6500 kelvin with specific red, blue, and green points).

However, in the automotive applications, the closest you can get to white is 4300k.

5000k is very close. Sometimes, the difference between 5000k and 4300k (and 4500k, as some label it) varies more from manufacturer to manufacturer and bulb to bulb than the actual ratings.

4300k is also the brightest (at roughly 3200 lumens), holding wattage and bulb/ballast/wiring quality constant. 5000k is very very close, practically within 50 lumens or so. 6000k is usually where you get the first visible step down in lumen output (about 2900-3000 lumens), along with a slight decrease in color rendition. 7000k is noticably blue and definitely dimmer.

3000k is yellow, and about as dim as 7000k.
 
Originally posted by: Apex
Originally posted by: Twista
Im wondering if you have any pictures taken when driving at night time.

Also, is the light pure white?? Im looking for a pure white theme w/o the odd green/yellow colors that comes with some hids.
Click to expand...

In theory, D65 is "sunlight" white (6500 kelvin with specific red, blue, and green points).

However, in the automotive applications, the closest you can get to white is 4300k.

5000k is very close. Sometimes, the difference between 5000k and 4300k (and 4500k, as some label it) varies more from manufacturer to manufacturer and bulb to bulb than the actual ratings.

4300k is also the brightest (at roughly 3200 lumens), holding wattage and bulb/ballast/wiring quality constant. 5000k is very very close, practically within 50 lumens or so. 6000k is usually where you get the first visible step down in lumen output (about 2900-3000 lumens), along with a slight decrease in color rendition. 7000k is noticably blue and definitely dimmer.

3000k is yellow, and about as dim as 7000k.
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And it's worth noting that the ONLY thing that matters for visibility is spectrum output and lumens. Color temperature has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with seeing ability, only with color perception. The only reason that spectrum output matters is the scattering and glare from the blue/violet wavelengths.

Color temerature is a nice marketing ploy but it has ZERO impact on how well you can see with the light.

ZV
 
While we're on the subject of quality lights, is there any bulb/color spectrum frequency that is good for rain and wet ground at night? I have the hardest time seeing the ground during this time and get really wary of driving and only drive if I have to.

Thanks!
 
I have HID headlights in my car. Personally, I think they have kind of a bluish tint to them. They are completely stock and I've never considered changing them...I have no idea what K they are.
 
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