anyone has trouble running the 2.2 catalyst driver with their ATI cards?

[andylawcc]

I heard quite a few ppl ran into conflicts after installing the 2.2 driver,

but I search thru the hardware forums and see no one complained about it.

 

[rbV5]

2.2 is great for me. There was an issue with WDM drivers being the same version #'s but 1 set not playing nice with 2.2 that caught alot of people off guard. OpenGL gaming performance got a boost with my rig with 2.2, I've heard the catalyst team is working hard on the D3D components for the next Catalyst version.

I think if ATI would spend some quality time on the installation package itself, concentrating on complete removal of existing drivers and registry entries, it would solve ALOT of driver related problems.

 

[andylawcc]

what do you mean WDM not being the same version #? I don't understand.

okay, I have to confess, I don't have the Ati card (which mean I can't d/l the driver and play around with it), but my friend is buying it and I highly recommended it and pursuaded him not to get the nvidia's offerings. So I want to make sure his experience with ATI is flawless. you know what I mean?

 

[Insane3D]

Thye run great on my Radeon 8500 and my AIW 7500.

 

[Tbirdkid]

I have a 8500le and it just keeps locking up on those drivers. I had to go back to the original cd drivers.... I dont know what is up with that but I cant find a catalyst driver to keep my machine running like I want it to. Now when I bench it with a catalyst driver it gets higher benchmark scores but it locks up an hour later. I am changing os's back to win 98se tonight to see if that is it or not.

 

[nord1899]

Originally posted by: rbV5
I think if ATI would spend some quality time on the installation package itself, concentrating on complete removal of existing drivers and registry entries, it would solve ALOT of driver related problems.

That is the sole reason why I hate upgrading my drivers on my Radeon.

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: nord1899

Originally posted by: rbV5
I think if ATI would spend some quality time on the installation package itself, concentrating on complete removal of existing drivers and registry entries, it would solve ALOT of driver related problems.

That is the sole reason why I hate upgrading my drivers on my Radeon.

I use a handy program called RegCleaner. I uninstall my drivers, then run that and have it clean out any ATI entries. I reboot and install the new ones. It works like a charm for a smooth upgrade of the drivers.

 

[GTaudiophile]

I have read of quite a few complaints about the Cat. 2.2s over at rage3d.com, so I am hesitant to upgrade to them, especially since everything works just great on my Radeon 7500 now (running pre-Cat drivers). I get hardware DVD acceleration in PowerDVD (something I lost with one set of drivers) and 90+ FPS in Counter-Strike, Day of Defeat, Urban Terror, and America's Army at 1024x768@32 with 2x FSAA and 2x AF. I will consider the Cat. 2.3s when they become available.

 

[Operandi]

There is a known problem with the 2.2 Catalyst drivers. The 2D driver is more or less broken and can cause your system to crash when using various apps, Mozilla and Opera for example. As far as I know this hasn't been fixed yet so it's something you might want to take note of.

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: Operandi
There is a known problem with the 2.2 Catalyst drivers. The 2D driver is more or less broken and can cause your system to crash when using various apps, Mozilla and Opera for example. As far as I know this hasn't been fixed yet so it's something you might want to take note of.

Hmmm...interesting. If this is a known issue, why does it not occur often? The 2.2 Catalysts are WHQL certified IIRC, so it seems unlikely to me that if there were serious 2D issues with them, MS would just certify them as is. I'm using them on two different ATI cards on two different systems and I have experienced no instability even with both systems and cards overclocked.

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I have read of quite a few complaints about the Cat. 2.2s over at rage3d.com, so I am hesitant to upgrade to them, especially since everything works just great on my Radeon 7500 now (running pre-Cat drivers). I get hardware DVD acceleration in PowerDVD (something I lost with one set of drivers) and 90+ FPS in Counter-Strike, Day of Defeat, Urban Terror, and America's Army at 1024x768@32 with 2x FSAA and 2x AF. I will consider the Cat. 2.3s when they become available.

You are really missing out man. I was using the non-catalysts on my AIW 7500 and I was really impressed with the newest Catalysts when I upgraded. It's worth at least giving it a try. Video capture, TV viewing, DVD acceleration, and gaming are all improved with them.

 

[Operandi]

Hmmm...interesting. If this is a known issue, why does it not occur often? The 2.2 Catalysts are WHQL certified IIRC, so it seems unlikely to me that if there were serious 2D issues with them, MS would just certify them as is. I'm using them on two different ATI cards on two different systems and I have experienced no instability even with both systems and cards overclocked.

Yeah, it's a rather strange problem, only certain 2D programs seem to set it off Opera, Mozilla are two that I know off but I think there are a few others. I use Mozilla 99% of the time now and had my system hang on me at least 3 times when using the 2.2's, so I'm back to the 2.1's now. There were a few threads over at Rage3D I'll see if can find them and post them here.

 

[rbV5]

Insane3D, that's what I've been doing forever with the radeon drivers. Manually installed, I've had few issues with ATI drivers...always just a reinstall away from an issue free card, as there has been a quality set of drivers to use for some time now. I've heard about problems with the 2D, but haven't experienced them myself (don't use Mozilla or Opera however).

I installed the 6143 XP drivers about an hour ago, and so far so good. I've been using the 6142 WDM drivers for quite a while now, they work well with the 6118 drivers and so far seem OK with 6143's...I'll try some captures here in a little bit after I bench the rig and Play some MotoGP to heat stuff up a bit to check these drivers hehe...

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: Operandi

Hmmm...interesting. If this is a known issue, why does it not occur often? The 2.2 Catalysts are WHQL certified IIRC, so it seems unlikely to me that if there were serious 2D issues with them, MS would just certify them as is. I'm using them on two different ATI cards on two different systems and I have experienced no instability even with both systems and cards overclocked.

Yeah, it's a rather strange problem, only certain 2D programs seem to set it off Opera, Mozilla are two that I know off but I think there are a few others. I use Mozilla 99% of the time now and had my system hang on me at least 3 times when using the 2.2's, so I'm back to the 2.1's now. There were a few threads over at Rage3D I'll see if can find them and post them here.

Well, I don't use Opera or Mozilla, so I can't comment on problems with those programs. If it is primarily those programs, are you sure it's not something to do with Opera and Mozilla and not ATI's drivers?

 

[andylawcc]

where can I find the 2.1 drivers then?


http://mirror.ati.com/support/drivers/winxparchive.html

is 7.70 = 2.1???

 

[Operandi]

Well, I don't use Opera or Mozilla, so I can't comment on problems with those programs. If it is primarily those programs, are you sure it's not something to do with Opera and Mozilla and not ATI's drivers?

Yeah, its an ATi dirver issue I've had my comp running for the last 15 days (without restarting) using Mozilla daily using the 2.1 Catalyst drivers. I found a few threads on Rage3D that I'll link to below.



Thread 1

Thread 2

 

[Operandi]

where can I find the 2.1 drivers then?

Yeah, those are the 2.1's.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Insane, I'll give them a try eventually. Most likely the 2.3s. How were the 2.1s compared to the 2.2s?

 

[TimeKeeper]

GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just install the power-by-ATI reference driver, and it will work great.

(I have Build-by-ATI 8500LE, but Power-by-ATI reference driver will work perfectly especially if you like OC - Just make sure you don't ask me why )

make sure you first..
1. uninstall the ATI Control utility first. (from control panel)-reboot.
2. uninstall the ATI driver.(from control panel)-reboot
3. install reference driver-reboot.
4. install Control utility-reboot.

 

[kingbob]

The Catalyst 2.2 drivers (so far) are amazing for me. On my XP 1800 rig I would occasionaly have slowdowns in GTA3 but now they are non existent. With my 1800 running at 1.68ghz and my video card at 296/296 I can get about 9200 3dmarks in 1024*768, compared to the 8500 I used to be getting. So far, so good. Thumbs up for ATi.

 

[Budman]

They work fine here on my 8500LE.

I have been playing The Thing,Battlefield 1942,SOAF and everything's running fine.