How To Anyone ever fix a filthy "bad" motherboard with a cleaning?

MrCreosote

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I have one that appears to be bad: cpu fan runs for about 1 second and that is all.

However, this board is beyond smoke and cat hair - I'd describe some areas having "filthy muck" (feces? but can't identify it or what kind of critter might be responsible - but is just a theory.) One side of he CPU chip has about 1/4" of what looks like "metalic" "hair" piled up. I should take some pics for utter disgust. Oh, there is corrosion in the CPU aluminum heat sink fins - perhaps this PC was outside or in a non-heater garage?

I have an ultrasonic cleaner and this would be a good candidate.
 

VirtualLarry

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Yes, we need pics of the CPU/mobo "filth" to properly help you ... I think. :|

What era rig are we talking about here? Core2? Earlier?
 

UsandThem

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Anyone ever fix a filthy "bad" motherboard with a cleaning?

I'd describe some areas having "filthy muck" (feces? but can't identify it or what kind of critter might be responsible - but is just a theory.)

I have an ultrasonic cleaner and this would be a good candidate.

:oops:

No, I generally adhere to a "If it looks like something pooped on my motherboard, it is going in the garbage" policy. :p
 

MrCreosote

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Vintage XP PC. Once I started ultrasonic cleaning stuff, I'm always looking for a job only ultrasonic can tackle, however hot water does a good job. Besides, I never let excrement stand in my way! haha The build up on the CPU is totally whack - I wonder if it could be a mass of tin whiskers but I think the filaments are too thick and not chaotic like whiskers. Still, they appear silver. NOTE: I will have to take some pics.

But the following pic shows quite thick whiskers:
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Still, has anyone actually fixed a mobo by cleaning it? Cleaning out the ducting of a laptop will fix some that shut off in a minute - they are overheating.
 

killster1

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soak it in alcohol..
easy and fun! doubt it will fix it but wow will be clean for rma ;P
 

VirtualLarry

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But the following pic shows quite thick whiskers:
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That doesn't look like any PC that I know of. That looks like some sort of electrical transformer, or something of that nature. You SURE that's some form of PC?
 

MrCreosote

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I was just showing thick tin whiskers which I didn't think were possible. I'll have some pics today.

I'm thinking ultrasonic cleaning will destroy the uber fine whiskers.
 

Oyeve

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I once too a filthy mobo and cpu that an old cat lady had and soaked it in warm soapy water. Rinsed it clean and blew dried it. Worked just fine after.
 

piasabird

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If you clean a motherboard with any liquid, then it probably needs to dry out for at least 3 days after being possibly blown off with some compressed air. I wonder when motherboards will have those sensors on them like cell phones that detect being exposed to water. Many things can make a motherboard appear filthy like being exposed to kitchen grease or the notorious tobacco smoke. Then there is pet dander or fur. I had a cat that would sit on my CRT monitor because it liked the heat.
 

chrisjames61

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If you clean a motherboard with any liquid, then it probably needs to dry out for at least 3 days after being possibly blown off with some compressed air. I wonder when motherboards will have those sensors on them like cell phones that detect being exposed to water. Many things can make a motherboard appear filthy like being exposed to kitchen grease or the notorious tobacco smoke. Then there is pet dander or fur. I had a cat that would sit on my CRT monitor because it liked the heat.


If it is a bright sunny, low humidity day one day will suffice if you leave the board outside
 

mindless1

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Vintage XP PC.

Is it really worth the effort? More often than not, I saw that era board fail from burst capacitors.

Till some point in the XP era, many boards ran the CPU VRM from 5V PSU rail and the current swings at CPU state change were so high that to maintain maximum stability, many bios disabled one of the power management modes so the CPU essentially never went into a halt idle state, wearing the capacitors faster (in addition to generic capacitor plague) and wasting power.

This wasted power also meant they needed more (average) airflow even for routine tasks, compared to the next generations of CPUs, and this also increased maintenance through higher dust accumulation.

I have cleaned a few boards, mostly dry cleaning of spider webs (which is what I suspect your "tin whiskers" really are) and dust, and wet cleaning if it was a smoker's system.

Wet cleaning I just take the battery out, spray about 10% solution of Mr. Clean on it, let that soak for a minute, immerse in warm water and go over the board with a soft ~ 1.5" wide paint brush, same paint brush I would have used to dislodge dry dust if it was a bit stuck on.

Next I rinse the board with tapwater and put it in a tub with water and a drop of either dish detergent or dish washer rinse agent. This drastically decreases the surface tension of the water so you don't get droplets clinging to things.

Next I remove from tub, shake off excess water or compressed air if available, stand the board up on end and if in a hurry will point a fan at it, otherwise wait a couple days for it to dry.

I usually do this to redeploy a working board or one that had some card contact issue, not trying to magically repair a board that has a severe enough fault that it won't even stay turned on.

When I wrote usually, it hasn't been that often, usually by the time a board is that bad it is obsolete but every now and then I have been brought systems from people, like a family friend or friend of a friend, with special circumstances, severely limited income and difficult to teach changes to, so I try to just keep their system running with least cost and time invested by anyone.

In retrospect, it probably would have been better to just look inside the system and tell the owner to get a refurbished OEM replacement, but my crystal ball was broken as far as how much advancement to expect in the PC industry over the years. Today, something that runs IDE drives or maybe SATA1? It's the combination of that and probably due for a new PSU too, to salvage something that has reached a reasonable end of life.
 
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mopardude87

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Cleaned out a H61 motherboard a couple years ago that i swore was dead. Very little to no dust sat in some of the ram slots and despite cleaning i got nothing out of it. Then i saw a very tiny piece of dust with dark coloring sitting in there i mean so small it was dang near invisible. Given i tried canned air i got a tooth pick and gently tried best to dislodge it and well once it was gone the board suddenly was posting. Ended up housing a i3 2100+7850 for a almost half a year after that till i sold it.

All i can gather was perhaps this dark colored piece was perhaps maybe metal shavings or iron and it was causing some sort of short? It was barely visible if i had the motherboard up to my face. There was absolutely no other dust or anything that could have possibly causing this, i was certainly stomped.
 
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thecoolnessrune

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That doesn't look like any PC that I know of. That looks like some sort of electrical transformer, or something of that nature. You SURE that's some form of PC?
Agreed, and I've *never* seen metal whiskers inside a computer to that degree.. That's amazing. Don't know if I would ever trust that enough to use it. Certainly not the case it's in.