Anyone else want the Patriot Act to die? Today?

[feralkid]

Even if it dies, do you think it will stop ?

Who would be verifying that actually ?

 

[JSt0rm]

Since you're a single issue voter, how do you feel about Obama now supporting this? Do you still feel as outraged now as you did in 2005? And lastly, would you actually vote for Rand over Obama hypothetically speaking? Not trying to be a dick here, just curious more than anything.

I dont need to be a single issue voter but I will if I have to. All of my representatives are against this. I promise not to vote for obama in 2016.

 

[werepossum]

Wow. So many against the NSA knowing what you are up to.
So... I ask, what exactly ARE you up to?
I don't get all this paranoia.

All they'd get from me are calls to mom, and text asking WHERE R U?
While waiting for the rest of the crowd to show up at Perkins.

I guess we'll see have to wait and if the act is needed. And the hard way, naturally.
So when your city is nuked by terrorist because the HSA could not trace and track cell calls, don't cry about it.

As for Randy Paul, does anyone really believe he actually gives a rats ass or knows what he is even talking about? Ever? Concerning any subject?
You wouldn't think his big mouth has anything to do with, oh... maybe... that there are 20+ candidates running for president under the republican ticket, now would you?

Believe me, we don't want a Randy Paul as our president.
I mean... THAT HAIR? And for 4 looooooong years?
I don't think so. No sir re bob.

Shit, he can't even spell his first name correctly.
Randy is missing a letter, and missing a screw as well.
We've heard of having a screw loose, but missing an entire screw altogether?
Don't get me started...

And Randy is exactly the type that despite what he now says, he would go full hog wanting the NSA to spy under a Randy Paul administration.
If for no other reason but to know what people are saying about HIM.
You ain't see paranoia like Randy paranoia.
The NSA tactics are right up his alley. So don't kid yourself.

lol Typical doctrinaire lefty. "I'm going to assume that the people opposing it are actually for it and I'm going to assume that the people supporting it are actually against it, because capital letters is magic."

There is no legitimate state interest in knowing what I'm up to.

The NSA has not established a reasonable basis for mass snooping and has certainly not obtained a warrant based upon probable cause.

Very well said, sir.

I dont need to be a single issue voter but I will if I have to. All of my representatives are against this. I promise not to vote for obama in 2016.

How about the Hildabeast? (Keeping in mind of course that the Republican challenger will almost certainly be someone also supporting the Patriot Act and in fact, virtually all government power, so there really isn't any right answer.)

 

[sm625]

Anyone else with me?

Crickets.

Country lost its spine a long time ago.

 

[Oyeve]

Really, who the hell cares?

 

[Jaskalas]

Really, who the hell cares?

^ Says a person... regarding the Bill of Rights.

Every American should care. If we don't have a majority then the terrorists don't need to win, we've already lost.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Im with you on this one GTaudiophile.

Also, we need courts to fix their ruling on 14th amendment. Corporations are not people under any circumstance.

Need to fix the ruling of citizens united vs FEC. Spending money is not exersizing free speech. spending money is a privilege that requires money. free speech is a right, that is equal to all.

 

[soundforbjt]

The Freedom Act has already passed the Senate and we know who controls the House and how they'll vote.

 

[Kwatt]

The Freedom Act has already passed the Senate and we know who controls the House and how they'll vote.

Passed in the House a month ago.

Headed for the Prez.


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[master_shake_]

they haven't stopped a thing.

they can't prove that they stopped anything.

there is no proof that the program works.

there is tons to prove it does not.

but like the tsa, it's here to stay in one form or another.

 

[werepossum]

Im with you on this one GTaudiophile.

Also, we need courts to fix their ruling on 14th amendment. Corporations are not people under any circumstance.

Need to fix the ruling of citizens united vs FEC. Spending money is not exersizing free speech. spending money is a privilege that requires money. free speech is a right, that is equal to all.

So you're all for freedom of speech as long as it's limited to those within earshot? Yeah, that's not crazy at all . . .

Why not extend your, um, special reasoning to the rest of the Constitution? Sure, you have freedom of religion - but this is a church, which is a building, which costs money, which is commerce. Sure, you have freedom of the press - but not if you write it down or broadcast it, which cost money, which isn't freedom of the press. Sure, you have the right to bear arms - but not if you have to buy the weapon or its ammunition. Sure, you have the right to an attorney - but not if you pay him!

Might want to think about your position there, sport.

 

[BoberFett]

I dont need to be a single issue voter but I will if I have to. All of my representatives are against this. I promise not to vote for obama in 2016.

No, but you'll undoubtedly be pulling the lever for Billary Clintbush. Might as well get a tattoo on your forehead that says "Violate Me".

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I was a fan of the Patriot Act from the beginning, and never stopped believing in it. Sad to see it go. Though I'm confident that the NSA will continue to do what's necessary to defend our nation.

 

[soundforbjt]

Passed in the House a month ago.

Headed for the Prez.


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Thanks, missed that.

 

[FerrelGeek]

I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic.

 

[BurnItDwn]

So you're all for freedom of speech as long as it's limited to those within earshot? Yeah, that's not crazy at all . . .

Why not extend your, um, special reasoning to the rest of the Constitution? Sure, you have freedom of religion - but this is a church, which is a building, which costs money, which is commerce. Sure, you have freedom of the press - but not if you write it down or broadcast it, which cost money, which isn't freedom of the press. Sure, you have the right to bear arms - but not if you have to buy the weapon or its ammunition. Sure, you have the right to an attorney - but not if you pay him!

Might want to think about your position there, sport.

Im all for freedom of speech.

spending money is spending money, money is not speech. They are different things. using money to buy political influence is considered free speech. Using money to buy a judge to find you not guilty of your crime is not considered free speech? why?

Bribe is Bribe

 

[who?]

Speaking on TV requires money to buy the commercial time.

I wonder how the phone companies are going to pay for the equipment to store the metadata. Will they raise rates or ask for taxpayer dollars? Maybe they can lease the facility that the NSA built in Utah.

 

[dank69]

I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic.

Pretty sure Nebor is 100% authoritarian, or he at least plays one on AT.

 

[dank69]

Speaking on TV requires money to buy the commercial time.

I wonder how the phone companies are going to pay for the equipment to store the metadata. Will they raise rates or ask for taxpayer dollars? Maybe they can lease the facility that the NSA built in Utah.

I think they already keep it for some number of years (I want to say 7). Now instead of destroying the data they will just dump the drives in the trash where the NSA can pick it up.

 

[werepossum]

Im all for freedom of speech.

spending money is spending money, money is not speech. They are different things. using money to buy political influence is considered free speech. Using money to buy a judge to find you not guilty of your crime is not considered free speech? why?

Bribe is Bribe

Right, because contributing toward airing a position advert or into a PAC to advocate for certain positions is EXACTLY like buying a judge for a specific favor.

My apologies for suggesting you think.