Anyone else think this is getting ridiculous?

RbSX

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So, I went to go download Empires at War by Lucasarts because to date I own every Star Wars game.

I, however, am not prepared to lay down 50 bucks without trying the game first. So I go to the site and find out the demo is 762 megabytes! A year ago most games were smaller than that fully extracted and installed.

I don't want to waste time downloading for several hours, I think it defeats the purpose of the demo. I want to quickly see it and if it's good I'll run to the store and buy it!

This leads me to my second comment.

I installed Battlefield 2, besides the fact that there is what? 3 cds? I had to download a 350 megabyte patch.

This tells me the game shouldn't have been released when it was. What happens to the ass backwards people that don't have highspeed internet?

I think this is getting kinda stupid.
 

JDrake

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Originally posted by: RyanSengara
So, I went to go download Empires at War by Lucasarts because to date I own every Star Wars game.

I, however, am not prepared to lay down 50 bucks without trying the game first. So I go to the site and find out the demo is 762 megabytes! A year ago most games were smaller than that fully extracted and installed.

I don't want to waste time downloading for several hours, I think it defeats the purpose of the demo. I want to quickly see it and if it's good I'll run to the store and buy it!

This leads me to my second comment.

I installed Battlefield 2, besides the fact that there is what? 3 cds? I had to download a 350 megabyte patch.

This tells me the game shouldn't have been released when it was. What happens to the ass backwards people that don't have highspeed internet?

I think this is getting kinda stupid.
Sims 2 was 3gb :confused:
Its weird because I have my tribes 1 on a CD... its ~96mb
 
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At this day in age, the average person has a more than capable internet connection. 762MB's isn't all too much, anymore.
 

RbSX

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Originally posted by: LoKe
At this day in age, the average person has a more than capable internet connection. 762MB's isn't all too much, anymore.

I dunno about you but thats a 7 to 9 hour download for me.

Still, a demo is supposed to be small, just a sample.
 

jlee

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Originally posted by: LoKe
At this day in age, the average person has a more than capable internet connection. 762MB's isn't all too much, anymore.

A few months ago, the only broadband I could get was satellite..and we know how much that sucks anyway.

The FEAR demo was huge, too..and it was really short.
 
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Originally posted by: RyanSengara
Originally posted by: LoKe
At this day in age, the average person has a more than capable internet connection. 762MB's isn't all too much, anymore.

I dunno about you but thats a 7 to 9 hour download for me.

Still, a demo is supposed to be small, just a sample.

I'm running on 128.8 cable. Any download for me is a huge download, yet I don;t contest the size of this demo.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Originally posted by: RyanSengara
Originally posted by: LoKe
At this day in age, the average person has a more than capable internet connection. 762MB's isn't all too much, anymore.

I dunno about you but thats a 7 to 9 hour download for me.

Still, a demo is supposed to be small, just a sample.


It's 12-15 minutes for me. But you're neglecting the simple point that for many games, it's impossible to create a small demo. As games these days are more about the eye candy and less about the gameplay it's the graphics that sell the game and the graphics are what's causing the giant downloads. If you downgrade the graphics to make the download smaller you're just screwing yourself. If the demo looks bad it doesn't matter how good the gameplay is, the downloaders won't buy it. But if you make the demo look stunning and it plays like crap the downloaders will drool over the graphics, assume that the bad gameplay is due to the fact that it's only a demo and they'll buy it anyway.
 

RbSX

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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: RyanSengara
Originally posted by: LoKe
At this day in age, the average person has a more than capable internet connection. 762MB's isn't all too much, anymore.

I dunno about you but thats a 7 to 9 hour download for me.

Still, a demo is supposed to be small, just a sample.


It's 12-15 minutes for me. But you're neglecting the simple point that for many games, it's impossible to create a small demo. As games these days are more about the eye candy and less about the gameplay it's the graphics that sell the game and the graphics are what's causing the giant downloads. If you downgrade the graphics to make the download smaller you're just screwing yourself. If the demo looks bad it doesn't matter how good the gameplay is, the downloaders won't buy it. But if you make the demo look stunning and it plays like crap the downloaders will drool over the graphics, assume that the bad gameplay is due to the fact that it's only a demo and they'll buy it anyway.


So you download at 1.05mbps from all sites you download? You're full of crap.
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: RyanSengara
So, I went to go download Empires at War by Lucasarts because to date I own every Star Wars game.

I, however, am not prepared to lay down 50 bucks without trying the game first. So I go to the site and find out the demo is 762 megabytes!
Solution: wait 1 year to buy it for $10 in the bargain bin.

 

Koing

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Yeah it is sucks.

You wouldn't need the patch if you didn't intend to play it online :p. I'm sure th retail of BF2 with 3 cd's would have played fine off line right? And hey it is pc gaming for you! Patch this etc etc etc. BUT you do get new maps and FEATURES sometimes.

You didn't get new features for the PS2.

Xbox and Xbox360 you get patches. In a way it lets the developers be a bit more sloppy in testing and QA. They can always patch it later :p. You can't do that with PS2 games. But then you may get some FUNKY bad bugs and you can't fix them. Works both ways.

And DAM why not just release games on DVD's? It is a dam annoyance to swap 3-5CD's out imo to play a game when you could just stick it on one DVD. WoW p!ssed me off with the install and no availability of the limited edition DVD copies of WoW.

Koing
 

GagHalfrunt

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Originally posted by: RyanSengara
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: RyanSengara
Originally posted by: LoKe
At this day in age, the average person has a more than capable internet connection. 762MB's isn't all too much, anymore.

I dunno about you but thats a 7 to 9 hour download for me.

Still, a demo is supposed to be small, just a sample.


It's 12-15 minutes for me. But you're neglecting the simple point that for many games, it's impossible to create a small demo. As games these days are more about the eye candy and less about the gameplay it's the graphics that sell the game and the graphics are what's causing the giant downloads. If you downgrade the graphics to make the download smaller you're just screwing yourself. If the demo looks bad it doesn't matter how good the gameplay is, the downloaders won't buy it. But if you make the demo look stunning and it plays like crap the downloaders will drool over the graphics, assume that the bad gameplay is due to the fact that it's only a demo and they'll buy it anyway.


So you download at 1.05mbps from all sites you download? You're full of crap.


Ever hear of a mirror? My cable connection tops out at 1.5mbps and it's not hard to find a server that gives at least 2/3 of that if several choices are available. Just because your mommy only buys you dial-up is no reason to assume that the rest of us are living in the dark ages too.
 

jtvang125

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Developers can never satisfy everyone. Make a demo size too big and people complain of the file size. Make the file size smaller resulting in a shorter demo and people complain the demo was too short.
 

RbSX

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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: RyanSengara
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: RyanSengara
Originally posted by: LoKe
At this day in age, the average person has a more than capable internet connection. 762MB's isn't all too much, anymore.

I dunno about you but thats a 7 to 9 hour download for me.

Still, a demo is supposed to be small, just a sample.


It's 12-15 minutes for me. But you're neglecting the simple point that for many games, it's impossible to create a small demo. As games these days are more about the eye candy and less about the gameplay it's the graphics that sell the game and the graphics are what's causing the giant downloads. If you downgrade the graphics to make the download smaller you're just screwing yourself. If the demo looks bad it doesn't matter how good the gameplay is, the downloaders won't buy it. But if you make the demo look stunning and it plays like crap the downloaders will drool over the graphics, assume that the bad gameplay is due to the fact that it's only a demo and they'll buy it anyway.


So you download at 1.05mbps from all sites you download? You're full of crap.


Ever hear of a mirror? My cable connection tops out at 1.5mbps and it's not hard to find a server that gives at least 2/3 of that if several choices are available. Just because your mommy only buys you dial-up is no reason to assume that the rest of us are living in the dark ages too.

LOL, moron, I have 1.5mbps down adsl, anyhow where did this come from?

BTW, Canada > USA as far as internet technology goes while you kids are fvcking with fios, we've got 15mbps down cable.

 

TallBill

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Gonna have to download the demo myself. I'm perfectly fine with a 700mb demo. You get more meat of the game. Games these days are 2-3 gigs as it is, which is perfectly fine as long as the industry moves towards offering DVD versions of all games.
 

etalns

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Originally posted by: RyanSengara
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: RyanSengara
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: RyanSengara
Originally posted by: LoKe
At this day in age, the average person has a more than capable internet connection. 762MB's isn't all too much, anymore.

I dunno about you but thats a 7 to 9 hour download for me.

Still, a demo is supposed to be small, just a sample.


It's 12-15 minutes for me. But you're neglecting the simple point that for many games, it's impossible to create a small demo. As games these days are more about the eye candy and less about the gameplay it's the graphics that sell the game and the graphics are what's causing the giant downloads. If you downgrade the graphics to make the download smaller you're just screwing yourself. If the demo looks bad it doesn't matter how good the gameplay is, the downloaders won't buy it. But if you make the demo look stunning and it plays like crap the downloaders will drool over the graphics, assume that the bad gameplay is due to the fact that it's only a demo and they'll buy it anyway.


So you download at 1.05mbps from all sites you download? You're full of crap.


Ever hear of a mirror? My cable connection tops out at 1.5mbps and it's not hard to find a server that gives at least 2/3 of that if several choices are available. Just because your mommy only buys you dial-up is no reason to assume that the rest of us are living in the dark ages too.

LOL, moron, I have 1.5mbps down adsl, anyhow where did this come from?

BTW, Canada > USA as far as internet technology goes while you kids are fvcking with fios, we've got 15mbps down cable.

8-9 hours on 1.5mbps down ADSL sounds a bit outlandish.
 

mugs

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It doesn't defeat the purpose of the demo, you can still play it for FREE before buying it. Just download it overnight, you're not "wasting" anything.
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: RyanSengara
I, however, am not prepared to lay down 50 bucks without trying the game first. So I go to the site and find out the demo is 762 megabytes! A year ago most games were smaller than that fully extracted and installed.

What games were you playing a year ago that were smaller than 760 megs?
 

spidey07

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that shouldn't take you more than an hour and a half or two on 1.5 meg dsl

so much for canadian technology.
 

spunkz

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lol 700 megs. they had a preview of Auto Assault over the weekend but you had to download the entire game. took up 8 gigs!
 

RbSX

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Originally posted by: spidey07
that shouldn't take you more than an hour and a half or two on 1.5 meg dsl

so much for canadian technology.

I'm to far from my CO office, so it's unreliable. At home I've got 3.0mbps down and it would take me about an hour or two.
 

l Xes lx

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First of all, u bitch too much for some games. So what if the game is big and has a lot of contents?!.. if u dont like it go back to tetris...
and patches are good indication of the companies promptly updating their games w/ various fixes...
If u r at work, WORK
 

Raduque

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Originally posted by: l Xes l
First of all, u bitch too much for some games. So what if the game is big and has a lot of contents?!.. if u dont like it go back to tetris...
Big games are good, only as long as they come on DVDs. swapping CDs to install is a pain, as is keeping a bunch of CDs around
Big demos are a pain to download on any connection. Especially for those of us who are forced to live in areas where broadband isn't available.
and patches are good indication of the companies promptly updating their games w/ various fixes...
Does fixing 5-10 bugs TRUELY reqiure 300mb? If so, wouldn't that be sloppy coding?
If u r at work, WORK
What about when there is no work to do! :p :D

PS: Learn to type out all your words.