Anyone else think Googles new EULA is kinda jacked?

[TheSlamma]

http://www.google.com/intl/en/policies/terms/


When you upload, submit, store, send or receive content to or through our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content. The rights you grant in this license are for the limited purpose of operating, promoting, and improving our Services, and to develop new ones. This license continues even if you stop using our Services (for example, for a business listing you have added to Google Maps). Some Services may offer you ways to access and remove content that has been provided to that Service. Also, in some of our Services, there are terms or settings that narrow the scope of our use of the content submitted in those Services. Make sure you have the necessary rights to grant us this license for any content that you submit to our Services.

Our automated systems analyze your content (including emails) to provide you personally relevant product features, such as customized search results, tailored advertising, and spam and malware detection. This analysis occurs as the content is sent, received, and when it is stored.

 

[Kaido]

The price of using free services.

I hope someone buys the movie rights to my emails!

 

[darkxshade]

Side effects may include dizziness, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, difficulty breathing, irregular heartbeat, palpitations, anxiety, depression, insomnia, headaches, penile dysfunction and other symptoms. Ask your doctor if Google services is right for you!

 

[SunnyD]

The next revision will simply read: We own your shit.

And I still won't care.

 

[Puppies04]

T.O.S

1. This is free

2. We will do whatever the hell we like with any information you send/recieve whilst using this free service.

3. If you don't like it go use someone elses service.

 

[notposting]

Side effects may include dizziness, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, difficulty breathing, irregular heartbeat, palpitations, anxiety, depression, insomnia, headaches, penile dysfunction and other symptoms. Ask your doctor if Google services is right for you!

Do not taunt Happy Fun Google.

 

[akahoovy]

Side effects may include dizziness, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, difficulty breathing, irregular heartbeat, palpitations, anxiety, depression, insomnia, headaches, penile dysfunction and other symptoms. Ask your doctor if Google services is right for you!

You forgot an increased risk of inexplicable death.

 

[SunnyD]

You forgot an increased risk of inexplicable death.

It's not inexplicable. It's because of using the product. Duh!

But he did forget the increased thoughts of suicide in adolescents and teens when using this product part.

 

[Jeff7]

"We and those companies we work with gain practical ownership of anything that passes through our servers or our property. Anything.
And our lawyers can murder your lawyers and get away with it.
Have we mentioned lately just how much stuff we own?"

 

[DaveSimmons]

This is Zombo dot Google

We can do anything
Anything at all
with your data
at Zombo dot Google

 

[Red Squirrel]

And yet people continue to use all their products.

There are alternatives! The best alternative is to host important stuff like email yourself.

 

[Miramonti]

T.O.S

1. This is free

2. We will do whatever the hell we like with any information you send/recieve whilst using this free service.

3. If you don't like it go use someone elses service.

4. If you do like it, I still recommend using someone elses service.

 

[DesiPower]

really? its news to you OP?

 

[mrjminer]

Yup.

Abandoned the use of gmail several years ago as a result. Haven't used a Google product since, except Chrome when I have to test a webpage. Not worth the risk of having your shit repurposed by Google, IMO

 

[Jeff7]

And yet people continue to use all their products.

There are alternatives! The best alternative is to host important stuff like email yourself.

A lot of people don't know what to do with an antivirus scan that says "Lock infected file in safe vault" or "Ignore threat."

Maybe they need to change the wording:
"Make the bad file go away!"
or
"Leave the bad file on my computer."


Or if a program says "Previous version detected. Uninstall previous version then try rerunning installation program."

"...so what do I do?" Why won't it work?"



Plenty of people turn paranoid and terrified in front of a computer, like it's going to purge their social security account and kill their beloved pets if they choose the wrong option.



Host your own e-mail? You might as well tell a very intelligent horse to analyze 50,00TB of data from the Large Hadron Collider.

 

[KLin]

idgaf

 

[natto fire]

And yet people continue to use all their products.

There are alternatives! The best alternative is to host important stuff like email yourself.

I use their products because I am not using them for illegal activities or to keep classified info or trade secrets. I'm not some privacy zealot (which is really quaint to think that you can maintain your privacy by just avoiding teh googlez).

It's extremely myopic to suggest that hosting email yourself is a realistic alternative for the majority of email users.

 

[TheSlamma]

The next revision will simply read: We own your shit.

And I still won't care.

Feel better? The CEO of Google gonna give you guys a kickback cause "you got their back" in this thread?

 

[TheSlamma]

really? its news to you OP?

I know reading isn't cool with your generation, but the title does say the NEW EULA, not to be confused with the OLD EULA which stunk but wasn't as bad, being the whole point of the thread if reading was something people were interested in.

 

[TheSlamma]

I use their products because I am not using them for illegal activities or to keep classified info or trade secrets. I'm not some privacy zealot (which is really quaint to think that you can maintain your privacy by just avoiding teh googlez).

It's extremely myopic to suggest that hosting email yourself is a realistic alternative for the majority of email users.

We're not using them for illegal activities or trade secrets either.

Maybe we just don't feel the need to get targeted ads all the time. It's funny how guys like you and SunnyD are attracted to a thread with this title to spew your google propoganda and we are the zealots?

YOU are the Google zealot who came in here to defend your corporate brand bias. Google zealots are actually becoming more intense than the Apple cult.

And to the rest of you tools who keep saying "Don't like it use a new service" we know we can change. Based on this new EULA I am changing, doesn't mean I can't start a thread about it cause it hurts your church of Google.

 

[natto fire]

We're not using them for illegal activities or trade secrets either.

Maybe we just don't feel the need to get targeted ads all the time. It's funny how guys like you and SunnyD are attracted to a thread with this title to spew your google propoganda and we are the zealots?

YOU are the Google zealot who came in here to defend your corporate brand bias. Google zealots are actually becoming more intense than the Apple cult.

And to the rest of you tools who keep saying "Don't like it use a new service" we know we can change. Based on this new EULA I am changing, doesn't mean I can't start a thread about it cause it hurts your church of Google.

I'm sorry if my post came across like I worship at the altar of google. I personally use AdBlock and noscript, so I haven't had to deal with ads in a long time.

Advertising and data collection are a huge business, and Google is not alone in exploiting this trend.

Even if you do use one of the numerous search engines or web services that claim to protect your privacy, there is nothing from stopping them from selling info down the road.

The point I was trying to make is that using the internet in and of itself means you will be tracked and exploited for profit by some company. Surveillance cameras are everywhere and will only continue to come into service, so the notion of living a private life and being a normal member of society are coming to odds more and more.

I can tell you one difference between Google and Facebook as far as how they spend their ill-gotten gains: Google is at least using it's investment capital to acquire companies that are geared more towards advancing technology, such as Boston Dynamics, and their autonomous automobile projects.

I personally have no problem with your thread and agree that "big data" is a topic that needs to be discussed. I think Google and Facebook both are very overvalued companies. Acxiom is probably a bit more realistic when their main source of income is a consumer feedlot.

I was replying to Red Squirrel because he, again, misses the bigger picture when saying people should just host their own email when it is way beyond the technical expertise of most email users. Since most people don't thoroughly read EULAs, even the so called "privacy pioneer" alternatives can easily wiggle out of selling data and hope it doesn't get a lot of attention.

 

[blankslate]

Don't back up your knew billion dollar money making idea to google....

Or for that matter to any cloud based storage....


At least it is in the eula.

Although a popup warning stating "If you upload this to google drive we own it as much as you do. It's in the eula... no seriously it is. Would you like to continue?" was put in place.
.....

 

[Rakehellion]

https://www.dropbox.com/terms

When you use our Services, you provide us with things like your files, content, email messages, contacts and so on ("Your Stuff"). Your Stuff is yours. These Terms don't give us any rights to Your Stuff except for the limited rights that enable us to offer the Services.

 

[Paratus]

This is why I always encrypt my gmail in binary before sending it. Instead of using 0 or 1 I use hacked Blu-Ray keys. That way which ever subsidiary of Google uses my email gets sued by the MPAA and Sony. By the time the lawyers are done I probably don't care anymore if the email gets read by a third party.

 

[natto fire]

https://www.dropbox.com/terms

Since you truncated the next line, I'll go ahead and drop it here:

We need your permission to do things like hosting Your Stuff, backing it up, and sharing it when you ask us to. Our Services also provide you with features like photo thumbnails, document previews, email organization, easy sorting, editing, sharing and searching. These and other features may require our systems to access, store and scan Your Stuff. You give us permission to do those things, and this permission extends to trusted third parties we work with.

So because they trust a third party the user is supposed to as well? What terms do these trusted third parties, which for intents and purposes have exact copies of everything you put there, look like?

This gets back to my original point that uploading things to the internet is pretty much your way of saying you don't want/need it to be private.

Not sure if your post was intended on showing there is a round-about way of saying they can sell your info in many EULAs or that dropbox is concerned with privacy, but my point stands.