Anyone else "stuck" in their job and in life?

Pale Rider 1

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*Warning - Long*

Just some quick background info on me. I have been working with computers since 1987. I have no formal training of any sort, no college, no degree and no certs. Everything I have learned has been by doing actually doing it. My first PC was a Tandy 1000 SX in 1987. I worked private security for five years. I have been in IT for about a year.

I went to a high school that offered a four year business program on top of all the typical high school classes. Many of the classes I took in HS were actually college classes that I have credits for. I hated school and never went to college because of it. The people I went to high school with that went to college are just not finishing ? they are broke and can?t get a job, not to mention in debt up to their eye balls. Some of them have upwards of 100k in student loans.

Right out of high school I did private security for about five years. The job was a lot of fun and paid well but there was no where to go in it, or so I thought, so I left. I learned so much about people and safety working this job. I was lucky enough to see ?the real word? as I call it. I think about how I was before that and laugh. I applied at a rather large banking software company that will remain unnamed and was hired on as a Domain Admin in their IT department in 2005.

I have been doing IT full time on a professional level for about a year now - and I hate it. Nothing we do is challenging or stimulating. I am unable to move up to a senior position because I lack formal education - even though some of our guys with BS degrees and a million certs. are complete morons who can't remember their domain account password.

So I am feeling sort of stuck. I am paid VERY well, even more than some of our degree holding Admins because of my skill set. I also have a higher title than some of them as well. I think this has stirred some animosity towards me and has kept me from being involved in some projects. Where can I go from here?

So I have the fancy new car, and a fancy new truck, and all the coolest toys, I am getting ready to buy a very nice home in a middle-upper class area, a wonderful wife, no kids. I feel like I have accomplished everything and there isn't anything else to do?

I am not sure if I even want to stay in IT. Everyone tells me to go to school for something. I was thinking maybe Law School. Despite being paid very well in IT there isn?t much money in it. Even our managers seem to top out at about $100k/year. If I stay with my company and top out my salary range I will be there in five-six years, but it just doesn?t seem worth it.


Does that make sense?

Anyone else in a similar situation?

 

Pale Rider 1

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I would also say that, I really don't have anything to complain about. I have been very fortunate at life so far... I just feel like something is missing. Sort of like, is this it? Is this all there is? Go to work, buy crap, buy newer better crap, get better job, etc, cycle repeats.
 

yllus

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Just a warning: A law degree isn't what popular media makes it out to be. There's a lot of lawyers - the vast majority, I believe - who barely scrape by for a living.

That said, I think an IT -> law transition is a good one. I tend to think the skillsets are strangely similar; the system of forming a legal position through looking at precedence and guessing as to how new legislation will be decided in relation to it... I think a lot of IT workers could be real powerhouses at the bar.
 

CptObvious

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My situation is different from yours - I'm 26, and I've been in school for most of my life, got my law license and started working a little over a year ago. It started out great; I was learning a lot and earning a decent salary, but budget problems at work forced them to take me off salary and put me on an hourly basis. The work slowed so I started getting less desirable assignments (basically last-minute stuff, minor things that I couldn't bill much).

I applied to other places but have not gotten an offer, due to my lack of experience and less-than-stellar academic credentials (my fault for not studying more). For the past 8 months or so I've felt stuck doing the same thing and earning peanuts. This year I've decided to try something completely different, to go to Asia for one year and teach English. Some friends/family have advised against it because they say I really need to be focused on advancing my career at this point. They may be right but I don't see my current job going anywhere, and I feel like I should travel the world a bit and get new experiences before I devote my life to being a lawyer.
 
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Originally posted by: Pale Rider
So I have the fancy new car, and a fancy new truck, and all the coolest toys, I am getting ready to buy a very nice home in a middle-upper class area, a wonderful wife, no kids. I feel like I have accomplished everything and there isn't anything else to do?

Get a girlfriend. ;)

- M4H
 

Pale Rider 1

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CptObvious I am sorry to hear that. Jumping from one job area to another is hard. It was hard for me to leave a field that I loved and worked in for five years. It turned out for the better $$$ wise but I don't feel like I have "advanced" or anything.
 

Pale Rider 1

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Pale Rider
So I have the fancy new car, and a fancy new truck, and all the coolest toys, I am getting ready to buy a very nice home in a middle-upper class area, a wonderful wife, no kids. I feel like I have accomplished everything and there isn't anything else to do?

Get a girlfriend. ;)

- M4H

Married. :cool:
 
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Originally posted by: Pale Rider
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Pale Rider
So I have the fancy new car, and a fancy new truck, and all the coolest toys, I am getting ready to buy a very nice home in a middle-upper class area, a wonderful wife, no kids. I feel like I have accomplished everything and there isn't anything else to do?

Get a girlfriend. ;)

- M4H

Married. :cool:

You said you wanted excitement, didn't you? :p

- M4H
 

pontifex

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i'm in the same boat i guess except that i have a ****** low paying IT job that doesn't even let me afford my own place.

Everyone says to go back to school but I hate school like you and I have no idea what I want to do.
 

Golgatha

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Welcome to Anandtech. Sorry you feel like you're stuck. It sounds like you're in the mid-twenties blues stage of your life and I empathize on many levels with you. I'm a reasonably successful chemist with a degree and several certifications, married, and have two kids. Count yourself lucky that you have a roof over your head, a loving relationship, and even enough money to buy some toys.

My advice to you. Max out your 401k and Roth IRA (and other investments) instead of buying a big(ger) house and more toys. I'm not saying that money will equal happiness, but having more funds put back ensures you can exit the rat race more quickly and pursue the things that do make you happy. Having savings also gives you freedom, in that you can for example tell an awful boss to shove it and not have to worry about the financial repercussions. Since your time isn't encumbered with kids, I would also suggest putting your skills to work for charity. It's amazing how good you'll feel when you give of your time to help others.
 

lokiju

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I find your thoughts intriguing and would like to subscribe to your news letter.


But really I'm in a similar boat and am not sure there.
 

iroast

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How about going back to school and earn a CS degree or two or three. That way, you can find a job elsewhere that pays more? computerjobs.com to give you an idea of salaries for various jobs.
 

jhayx7

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I feel for you. Right now I am stuck-ish in my job and life. When I was 16 I started working full time, working on PC's at a mom and pop computer shop. Move to b'ham and started a career and became a senior network engineer for a company when I was 19. Then it hit me, I need a degree to go just about anywhere..

Started school part time, going at night to a community college. My job was very stressful (small company, shite load of work) so I found a new job. Large company, less work, took a demotion in rank to just a "pc tech", much better pay and benefits (full tuition reimbursment!). So right now I have a very mindless job which stinks but I can do school work during the day so I can finish school sooner.

I was getting very depressed with my life and job so I picked up on a hobby, woodworking. Starting to make furniture for our new condo and it has been very theraputic. So my advice is to find a hobby that you enjoy and it seems like you need to do some soul searching on what you WANT to do in life.

Life is too short to be unhappy.
 

HannibalX

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Thanks for the insight guys.

My hobby used to be PCs, but they are the LAST thing I want to deal with when I come home from work now. Maybe I will start running again.

Thanks Mod for getting my account taken care of.
 

jhayx7

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Originally posted by: Pale Rider
Thanks for the insight guys.

My hobby used to be PCs, but they are the LAST thing I want to deal with when I come home from work now. Maybe I will start running again.

Thanks Mod for getting my account taken care of.

FWIW - I used to HATE looking at a computer when I came home from work too. Now I have started to work on little computer projects which have been fun. Starting to build an HTPC box that runs Linux/Myth TV. Got rid of my gaming computer and got a MacBook which has been awesome.

I still hate working on "family" computer problems though. Makes me die a little inside each time a family member calls up about an issue.
 
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Dude... OP's life sound EXACTLY like mine. No college. Got into a career that paralleled a hobby. Progressed about as far as I could. Made great money but was feeling trapped... Unsatisfied. Going through the motions. Woderning if there was something else. No idea what else I could do.

So I quit my job. Sold my house. Sold my car. And I'm moving to Hawaii on Monday. I'm taking all the lessons I learned about starting a new business from scratch in a comeptitive environment and putting them into practical application in a place I've always wanted to live. And I'll be doing something very different than I did before. I CAN'T WAIT!
 

trmiv

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I feel your pain, I'm in about the same boat. I'm 31, but I have a BS in Business MIS, but no certs. I've been stuck doing this thankless desktop support job for 3 years now, and did software support for 4 years before that. I'm TIRED of being a support monkey for end users. I want to have a more rewarding job that pays well and is more rewarding. Something that I can work on projects that are interesting, but only last a few months to a year and then on to a new thing. I'm so tired of the everyday grind of desktop support work.

But, my wife and I are tired of living in this area so we're moving. In June when the semester is over (my wife is a teacher), we're moving across the country to North Carolina. I'll likely get a job doing the exact thing, but at least it will be a new environment. I'm planning on trying to make change after a few months of being there, and either move on to a new career or start a business (what I REALLY want to do, but not sure WHAT to do.)

 

Platypus

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No, I'm pretty well off considering.. got a great paying/enjoyable for the most part job right out of school where I'm respected and appreciated, I'm young, have my own place and car and only going up from here. I have two degrees from a respected school.

I've worked myself up, paid my way through school and everything else I've obtained along the way and I'm proud to say I wouldn't have it any other way. Good luck finding what you're looking for.
 

HannibalX

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
nope, re-organization is in the air

Apparenty this happens at my company every Jan. I am waiting to see if it happens this year.

I would love to move out of FL but not sure where I would go. There are plenty of nice places I would like to move, but the job market has to be there. I LOVE Montana.
 
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Originally posted by: Pale Rider
Originally posted by: FoBoT
nope, re-organization is in the air

Apparenty this happens at my company every Jan. I am waiting to see if it happens this year.

I would love to move out of FL but not sure where I would go. There are plenty of nice places I would like to move, but the job market has to be there. I LOVE Montana.

So go.
 

Zap

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Originally posted by: Pale Rider 1
I would also say that, I really don't have anything to complain about. I have been very fortunate at life so far... I just feel like something is missing. Sort of like, is this it? Is this all there is? Go to work, buy crap, buy newer better crap, get better job, etc, cycle repeats.

Mid life crisis?

Originally posted by: pontifex
Everyone says to go back to school but I hate school like you and I have no idea what I want to do.

Two issues. Don't know what you want to do... up to you to figure it out. Start with what you like in general and go from there.

As for going back to school, I wasn't a fan of school, but I am back in school for a Masters degree. It was my choice and the program I'm in offers mostly challenging and interesting classes (with a couple of duds). It is a lot of hard work but is interesting enough to break me out of my own rut.

Originally posted by: jhayx7
I still hate working on "family" computer problems though. Makes me die a little inside each time a family member calls up about an issue.

LMAO!!! No comment.

Originally posted by: jhayx7
So my advice is to find a hobby that you enjoy

That's wonderful advice!

My vote is on dance lessons for the OP and his wife. :thumbsup: