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Reckoner

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My ABS in the WRX has kicked in at bad times. One day when the roads were still covered with snow, I hit the brake, but I couldn't press all the way down. ABS had kicked in and I had almost slided into the road. I wasn't traveling at a crazy speed either, somewhere between 20-25mph.
 

mercanucaribe

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Oh no, here come the wannabe enthusiast elitists... Guys, there is no benefit to not having ABS, unless you think locking your brakes is an asset. You can threshold brake all you want, and if you're as good as you think you are, you won't activate ABS anyway.
 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
damn pos..with its need-to-be-replaced breaks:|

Damn thing makes me pump the brakes and such all the time.

I realize that it really isn't made for stopping from 50 to 0 in 20ft, but damn, pumping the brakes is annoying as hell:|



What exactly are you saying?

:confused:
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Oh no, here come the wannabe enthusiast elitists... Guys, there is no benefit to not having ABS, unless you think locking your brakes is an asset. You can threshold brake all you want, and if you're as good as you think you are, you won't activate ABS anyway.

you are the elitest.

I don't want traction control or abs.

My current car I passed up many to get with out abs.

ABS is great for panic stoppers. I learned to stop from driving insane in a '66 Mustang GT. Then an 88 GT. I can 'modulate' my brakes (breaks hehehe) without having to just push the pedal to the metal.

Technology is improving though...not too long before drive by wire is fly by wire so to speak (I am not talking real aircraft here nerds).

 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Oh no, here come the wannabe enthusiast elitists... Guys, there is no benefit to not having ABS, unless you think locking your brakes is an asset. You can threshold brake all you want, and if you're as good as you think you are, you won't activate ABS anyway.

you are the elitest.

I don't want traction control or abs.

My current car I passed up many to get with out abs.

ABS is great for panic stoppers. I learned to stop from driving insane in a '66 Mustang GT. Then an 88 GT. I can 'modulate' my brakes (breaks hehehe) without having to just push the pedal to the metal.

Technology is improving though...not too long before drive by wire is fly by wire so to speak (I am not talking real aircraft here nerds).

I am no elitist...Idealist perhaps:D, but defintiely nto an elitist:D

I jsut have a very demanding commute, and my brakes suck.....I rarely feel the need for more powerful brakign, but in some cases I do....

my brakes lock up at the flip of a hat..maybe I just need to get them replaced, or get the MC checked, and stop yapping..I'll make another thread about it
 

QuitBanningMe

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Oh no, here come the wannabe enthusiast elitists... Guys, there is no benefit to not having ABS, unless you think locking your brakes is an asset. You can threshold brake all you want, and if you're as good as you think you are, you won't activate ABS anyway.

you are the elitest.

I don't want traction control or abs.

My current car I passed up many to get with out abs.

ABS is great for panic stoppers. I learned to stop from driving insane in a '66 Mustang GT. Then an 88 GT. I can 'modulate' my brakes (breaks hehehe) without having to just push the pedal to the metal.

Technology is improving though...not too long before drive by wire is fly by wire so to speak (I am not talking real aircraft here nerds).
He speaks the truth. It takes a hell of a lot of practice to properly threshhold brake. Even when you get good at it an ABS equiped vehicle will stop faster most of the time.

I still prefer non ABS but my my car is also used for autocross. Well not the current one but it shouldn't be long.
 

psiu

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Oh no, here come the wannabe enthusiast elitists... Guys, there is no benefit to not having ABS, unless you think locking your brakes is an asset. You can threshold brake all you want, and if you're as good as you think you are, you won't activate ABS anyway.

Um...no. See post quoted below:

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
My ABS in the WRX has kicked in at bad times. One day when the roads were still covered with snow, I hit the brake, but I couldn't press all the way down. ABS had kicked in and I had almost slided into the road. I wasn't traveling at a crazy speed either, somewhere between 20-25mph.

ABS in real winter weather=bad.

Locking brakes=can be an asset.

Feel of road=good.

Also, having ABS takes away that paranoid edge of not knowing what the brakes are going to do in bad conditions, which helps driving awareness.

EDIT: Without ABS on the Explorer I rented this winter, I think I would have avoided the accident I got in.
 

cjgallen

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If you're pumping your brakes "all the time," you're either tailgating way to much, or your brakes need to be bled.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: cjgallen
If you're pumping your brakes "all the time," you're either tailgating way to much, or your brakes need to be bled.

Yeah..that's what I am going to do
 

EyeMWing

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Jun 13, 2003
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No ABS on any of my cars that don't totally suck. The Escort has ABS. The brake pedal in the truck is very proud of it's DISC BRAKES.
 

EyeMWing

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Oh no, here come the wannabe enthusiast elitists... Guys, there is no benefit to not having ABS, unless you think locking your brakes is an asset. You can threshold brake all you want, and if you're as good as you think you are, you won't activate ABS anyway.

Benefit to not having ABS: Not paying for ABS.
 

Evadman

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I prefer cars without ABS. I disabled it within a week of getting my truck.
 

MDE

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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My car is supposed to have it but stopped working. I've locked the wheels up a couple times in the past week because of it.
 

Thegonagle

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I could take it or leave it. I hate it in the snow, though, when I prefer to control the brakes myself. I'm quite experienced at winter driving, and sometimes, I actually want to be able to lock them up for a moment.
 

Cawchy87

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I love the foot message on my parents cars AKA ABS. A good set of winter tires is more important unless you plain suck at driving.
 

mercanucaribe

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Oh no, here come the wannabe enthusiast elitists... Guys, there is no benefit to not having ABS, unless you think locking your brakes is an asset. You can threshold brake all you want, and if you're as good as you think you are, you won't activate ABS anyway.

you are the elitest.

I don't want traction control or abs.

My current car I passed up many to get with out abs.

ABS is great for panic stoppers. I learned to stop from driving insane in a '66 Mustang GT. Then an 88 GT. I can 'modulate' my brakes (breaks hehehe) without having to just push the pedal to the metal.

Technology is improving though...not too long before drive by wire is fly by wire so to speak (I am not talking real aircraft here nerds).


I don't have ABS. ;)
I don't see what's so enjoyable. There's no benefit to feel.. Unless skidding tires is "feel".

And yes I know sliding is good with snow because you can develop a pile of it, but I've never driven in snow or seen more than 1" of it so there!
 

Calin

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Apr 9, 2001
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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
damn pos..with its need-to-be-replaced breaks:|

Damn thing makes me pump the brakes and such all the time.

I realize that it really isn't made for stopping from 50 to 0 in 20ft, but damn, pumping the brakes is annoying as hell:|

Are you riding on snow? If not, you shouldn't really pump the brakes. Maybe you have air in the braking system.
My '92 VW Passat doesn't have ABS on brakes, but it has ABS on the engine :p
(ok, the engine type is ABS, there are other types like AAM, ADZ, RP, AAA)