anyone else notice......?

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Wheezer
No complaints of voter fraud.
No complaints of voter disenfrachisement.
No complaints that people were barred from voting.
No complaints of voter machine hacking.
No complaints of voting machine irregularities.

Don't ge me wrong, the republicans screwed themselves...they had 12 years to get things right and obvioulsy the people have grown tired of them not stepping up to expectations.

However, now that the Dems won, all is right with the world and all the things they were concerned about prior to the election are now no longer issues since they won.

You mean all the elctiosn were rigged by the Dems? WOW, if true the GOP may be in big trouble and better start whining and complaining.

Now, which of the multiple elections the GOP lost should you start with?? The House, Senate, or the Govenorships?? :laugh:

 

[dmcowen674]

Look at this one.

A Republican won because 18,000 voters in a heavy Democrat district didn't have their votes counted:

11-9-2006 Florida deja vu: Race to replace Harris could go to recount

The touch-screen voting machines Katherine Harris championed as secretary of state after the 2000 presidential recount may have botched this year's election to replace her in the U.S. House, and it's likely going to mean another Florida recount.

More than 18,000 Sarasota County voters who marked other races didn't have their vote register in the House race, a rate much higher than the rest of the district, elections results show.

Republican Vern Buchanan declared victory in the race with a 373-vote lead over Democrat Christine Jennings -- less than 0.2 percent.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: slash196

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Wheezer
No complaints of voter fraud.
No complaints of voter disenfrachisement.
No complaints that people were barred from voting.
No complaints of voter machine hacking.
No complaints of voting machine irregularities.

Don't ge me wrong, the republicans screwed themselves...they had 12 years to get things right and obvioulsy the people have grown tired of them not stepping up to expectations.

However, now that the Dems won, all is right with the world and all the things they were concerned about prior to the election are now no longer issues since they won.

You are 100% right about why we aren't hearing complaints.

At the same time people are being critical of Allen and Burns because they might ask for recounts. Meanwhile they were all over Kerry for not calling for recounts in 2004.

I think it is a philosophical difference.

Also, notice that Bush stepped up and took responsibility for the loss. Does anyone remember if Clinton did the same in 1994?

1. For the love of all that is fun, shut the fvck up about clinton. We could go back and blame the Founders for the Civil War but that doesn't change the fact that the people who were around at the time started it.

2. He hasn't been president for SIX YEARS. Bush has been president that whole time, and I think it's safe to say that he bears responsibility for pretty much the entire functioning (or dysfunctioning) of the Executive Branch, which is most of the government.

3. Two points in one, actually. One, you intimate that Clinton didn't own up without offering a shred of evidence. Two, you imply that the Clinton administration bore the responsibility for the large defeat. The GOP was largely to credit for the victory, it wasn't a backlash against Clinton. As we've seen, backlashes don't happen that quickly.

Did you even read either of the posts that you quoted? Instead of addressing any of the points made in either of those posts, you focus soley on one sentence by PJ, which wasnt even a statement, it was a question.


"One, you intimate that Clinton didn't own up without offering a shred of evidence"

He said "Does anyone remember if Clinton did the same in 1994?". Do you see the question mark at the end of that? It is a question, do we now have to have evidence of something when we ask a question? He obviously didn't remember what Clinton did in 1994, so he is asking if anyone else does.

You took one sentence, a question about how Clinton reacted to a very similar situation in 1994, and turned it into 3 paragraphs of Clinton fluffing. Nice job!

 

[Aisengard]

He did give a pseudo-answer JD. And you respond with a post that doesn't even have a minimal amount of content pertaining to the subject.

The '94 midterms for Clinton are not comparable with the '06 midterms for Bush. This year's election was in a very large way a referendum on GWB, who has been in power six years. In 1994, Clinton had been in power for 2 years. That campaign was more about the GOP's 'ideas' (even if those ideas were more like ideals, and the leader of the movement was as corrupt as the 40-year democratic majority he ousted) than the Democrats. This one was about the GOP's, and more really, Bush's failures.

I believe that rephrases slash's last two points. Now I'm sorry you didn't read past the first one and assumed it was all a 'fluffing' of Clinton. Try some intellectual honesty on for size.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Is it just me, or did anyone else notice higher gas prices today, now that the elections are finished?

Jumped another 10 cents here yesterday.

 

[trenchfoot]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Rainsford
I don't understand why this is a valid complaint...clearly many people (not just Dems) were worried about various fraud activites before the election, but that was based on a lot of fear and uncertainty. Now that the elections have actually happened, and no major issues have yet emerged, I'm not sure why ANYONE would be making noise. The point made in the OP is only relevant if there WAS all sorts of fraud that the Dems are ignoring just because they won. Otherwise the point is silly, if pre-event concerns prove not to have been valid, what kind of idiot would keep making noise about them?

Hey if CEO of <insert company here> said they would deliver 2006 to the Democrats what do you think would have happen?

Why do the Republicans hide from logical questions

because for many, the only answer they could come up with would be to plead the fifth. 😉

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[glugglug]

ProfJohn, didn't you promise you would be posting less after the election?

Also, I'm sure the fraud still occured in this election, only the sentiment has turned so strongly against the neo-cons that the fraud wasn't massive enough to overcome it.

 

[PELarson]

Originally posted by: Wheezer
No complaints of voter fraud.
No complaints of voter disenfrachisement.
No complaints that people were barred from voting.
No complaints of voter machine hacking.
No complaints of voting machine irregularities.

I at least have noticed how wrong you are regarding the above suppositions.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Wheezer
No complaints of voter fraud.
No complaints of voter disenfrachisement.
No complaints that people were barred from voting.
No complaints of voter machine hacking.
No complaints of voting machine irregularities.

Don't ge me wrong, the republicans screwed themselves...they had 12 years to get things right and obvioulsy the people have grown tired of them not stepping up to expectations.

However, now that the Dems won, all is right with the world and all the things they were concerned about prior to the election are now no longer issues since they won.

Did you think that may be why they won.. because those things didn't happen like in 2004?

uh no, it's because repubs aren't whiny, insolent, little babies.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
We may never know if some Republican vote altering was done---but maybe--as usual--the Republicans were over optimistic on the depths of their unpopularity--and just failed to steal enough votes----another Iraq like case---go big or stay at home.---go small and lose.

But for the record---there were many complaints of voting machine irregularities.---the question now is---will the repubs now blame democratic hacking?

There were very, very, very few complaints when looking at the whole of voting.

 

[umbrella39]

LOL this thread is priceless. Is the OP suggesting that all the video footage of the problems that happened during the 2000 and 2004 don't exist? Just pulled it out of our butts eh? And yes, Ithere were some complaints about lines and machines on Tuesday, so there goes your little theory. Nice troll.

:roll:

 

[trenchfoot]

Originally posted by: glugglug
ProfJohn, didn't you promise you would be posting less after the election?

Also, I'm sure the fraud still occured in this election, only the sentiment has turned so strongly against the neo-cons that the fraud wasn't massive enough to overcome it.

give him a break; technically the elections aren't over yet. 😉

buuuuuttttt, seeing as if he's having so much fun here, i can't see him tearing himself away from it all, ever.

i will kindly wager four sticks of 8mb edo ram each, throw in a creative labs 16 bit isa sound card of dubious reliability, a 5¼" external floppy drive (wang), and a olivetti daisy wheel printer to back my opinion. (of course, you pay all shipping). 😀

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Wheezer
No complaints of voter fraud.
No complaints of voter disenfrachisement.
No complaints that people were barred from voting.
No complaints of voter machine hacking.
No complaints of voting machine irregularities.

Don't ge me wrong, the republicans screwed themselves...they had 12 years to get things right and obvioulsy the people have grown tired of them not stepping up to expectations.

However, now that the Dems won, all is right with the world and all the things they were concerned about prior to the election are now no longer issues since they won.

Their victory did not abate their seething hatred. The last 6 years burned it into them for the rest of their lives.

It continues right now, all you have to do is listen to how not enough votes were stolen. As long as they hear any voices of opposition there will not be civil discourse in our political civil war. It?s absolute victory and command, or absolute hatred for not having it.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
No complaints, no complaints? I'm pissed as hell. The hospital wouldn't let me out of my cell to go vote.

My couch had the same vicious hold on me. :| Damn the man!

 

[KGB]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Look at this one.

A Republican won because 18,000 voters in a heavy Democrat district didn't have their votes counted:

11-9-2006 Florida deja vu: Race to replace Harris could go to recount

The touch-screen voting machines Katherine Harris championed as secretary of state after the 2000 presidential recount may have botched this year's election to replace her in the U.S. House, and it's likely going to mean another Florida recount.

More than 18,000 Sarasota County voters who marked other races didn't have their vote register in the House race, a rate much higher than the rest of the district, elections results show.

Republican Vern Buchanan declared victory in the race with a 373-vote lead over Democrat Christine Jennings -- less than 0.2 percent.

13 percent undervote!

Question: How can we do a recount if there is NO FVCKING PAPER TRAIL!!! :frown:

 

[Aisengard]

Republicans can't complain because there's no evidence of vote tampering for either side, unlike in 2000 and 2004. However, they still want to feel some kind of superiority over the victors ("because how can out-of-touch liberals be more in-touch than the candidates we supported?") so they take replies to this thread to mean that liberals are babies.

Nope. There is evidence that electronic voting machines are HORRENDOUSLY incapable of being reliable vote-counters. I think it might have affected Republicans in the House, but who knows? We would welcome any evidence to that too, it just goes to support what many 'wacky liberals' have been saying for years.

Also, where are the stories of Republican vote suppression? There is plenty of evidence of voters who mostly vote Democrat being suppressed, but where are the stories of Republican voters being erroneously eliminated from voter rolls, or told that the election was actually a day after the real election day, or getting calls from 'government officials' that they are ineligible to vote and they will be arrested if they show up. Until they can provide evidence to show that Republican votes are being suppressed, then they are all babies themselves, who can't accept the fact that even though all this occurred, and even though their candidates sometimes had multiple times of cash more than their Democratic opponent, they still lost.

Republicans can't complain because they know they have absolutely nothing to complain about. Their candidates had every non-performance-related advantage, be it incumbency, or gerrymandering (which is funny because they were so terrible that the slightly weakened majority in those districts turned into a minority), or most of all money, and they still got 'thumped'. People you see here complaining that liberals are babies because they like to see credible voting results should look in the mirror. It's okay to laugh at their desperation. Both have earned it.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
The whole thing reminds me of what my 10th grade chem teacher used to say: "When you conduct an experiment based on your own theory and the results come out the way you wanted, you tend to be less inclined to examine your methods for errors."

If VA and MT had tilted the other way we'd be hearing endless crap about Diebold and fraud.

:thumbsup: I think you hit nail on head. Repubs designed current system (Help America Vote Act ). Republican fat cat donars designed the current Hardware and software used. How could they complain about it?