Anyone else notice that the Neo Cons have been qouting Clinton a lot ?

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Zephyr106

Lberal


liberal


(1)a person who harbors anger and resentment towards himself, his family and his country, (2)a person who believes in group rights as opposed to individual rights, (3) a person who is was raised in a family where the female was the dominant figure, (4) male liberals are usually slight in stature, wear beards and walk behind their female partners or dominant males partner, if gay, (4) people who are over represented in mental health facilities and subsequently over use depression medication ? while abhorring the pharmaceutical companies that make them, (5) female liberals are usually short, fat, and wear stupid hats with slogans on them, (6) elderly liberals are annoying. They are frequently bitter, nasty and resentful; they have spent their entire time on this earth fighting against competition and the free market. In the end, having achieved nothing and while aborting all their children, they die lonely, never really extinguishing the fire of anguish and the intolerable resentment that has lived inside them.

Liberals are not only different philosophically, the are different pathologically. They are just plain old creepy looking.

I can quote urban dictionary as well. I tend to ignore the place.

Nuxto has alot of anger and hate. He needs to take it out by shooting up a school.

Zephyr

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Neoconservative

One who follows the "neo-con" subsect of the American conservative political wing. A Neo Conservative generally favors hawkish foreign agendas and overt militarization due to their core purpose of promoting American supremacy overseas and their disgustingly retarded and simplistic belief that any given situation can be resolved with aggression (see: Iraq). Due to their unabashed shortsightedness, they are considered ignorant buffoons by other conservatives. Especially so by the paleoconservatives.

When it comes to domestic affairs, however, Neo Conservatives aren't nearly as decisive. In fact, they're totally impotent and ineffectual.

Gee, I guess that's why our economy is in the sh!tter and the rest of the world hates us... We have a neo-conservative dickhead in the White House.

Nice.

Seems you didn't follow the thread

CkG

 

[Zephyr106]

What does my comment have to do with Neoconservativism? You seem to read into posts a tad too much.

Zephyr

 

[digitalsm]

Get used to it. Two of Clintons peeps, as well as a democrat Senator from 1988-2000 are on the Commission.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Zephyr106
What does my comment have to do with Neoconservativism? You seem to read into posts a tad too much.

Zephyr

Ummm - maybe his post was in response to DM posting a neo-con definition from that site?

You blast Nutxo as full of hate, yet you don't seem to understand why he posted that definition. Figures.

CkG

 

[b0mbrman]

"Neo Con" is definitely one of the big political buzzwords this year. I'll have to add it to my list of words I use when I want to sound smart

 

[Zephyr106]

Ummm - maybe his post was in response to DM posting a neo-con definition from that site?

You blast Nutxo as full of hate, yet you don't seem to understand why he posted that definition. Figures.

Well as I said in a previous thread, I'm sorry if I offended any bigots. I never realized they were so thin-skinned.

Zephyr

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: Zephyr106

Lberal


liberal


(1)a person who harbors anger and resentment towards himself, his family and his country, (2)a person who believes in group rights as opposed to individual rights, (3) a person who is was raised in a family where the female was the dominant figure, (4) male liberals are usually slight in stature, wear beards and walk behind their female partners or dominant males partner, if gay, (4) people who are over represented in mental health facilities and subsequently over use depression medication ? while abhorring the pharmaceutical companies that make them, (5) female liberals are usually short, fat, and wear stupid hats with slogans on them, (6) elderly liberals are annoying. They are frequently bitter, nasty and resentful; they have spent their entire time on this earth fighting against competition and the free market. In the end, having achieved nothing and while aborting all their children, they die lonely, never really extinguishing the fire of anguish and the intolerable resentment that has lived inside them.

Liberals are not only different philosophically, the are different pathologically. They are just plain old creepy looking.

I can quote urban dictionary as well. I tend to ignore the place.

Nuxto has alot of anger and hate. He needs to take it out by shooting up a school.

Zephyr

Not at all, I was merely showing that urban dictionary isnt the place to find definitions for many things. One person threw out a definition of neo-con from the site, on the same site this was listed as the definition of liberal.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Zephyr106

Ummm - maybe his post was in response to DM posting a neo-con definition from that site?

You blast Nutxo as full of hate, yet you don't seem to understand why he posted that definition. Figures.

Well as I said in a previous thread, I'm sorry if I offended any bigots. I never realized they were so thin-skinned.

Zephyr

Learn to follow the thread then I'm sure the bigots aren't offended, especially since that has nothing to do with this thread.
Figure out why he posted that yet?

CkG

 

[burnedout]

Anyone else notice that the Neo Cons have been qouting Clinton a lot ?

No worries, mate. The mere mention of Senator Kerry (rhymes with 'scary') opens up an entirely new can of worms.

Should be fun to watch!

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

"If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the facts and the law are against you, yell like hell"

A saying.

Remember this when the Bushies try to divert the issue onto Clinton, Tenet, sunspots or bad comb overs.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
And we put Pinochet in power, and the Shah, and kept Saddam in power. Don't bring that high moral horse you ride around here. It's lame. You need to advocate the overthrow of the US govt if that is your attitude. We have our share of blood on our hands.

We allowed those the hundreds of thousands of deaths to happen because we wanted to play Iran off against Iraq. If we were back in those days now, you would have been justifying it. In best interest of the world don't you know. Rumsfeld shook the hand of the devil and he knew it.

he did ?he had a magical crystal ball that told him everything saddam would do? WOW!

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith This wasnt about liberation. This was Operation Get Saddam. This was a power trip with revenge thrown in.

When do we go to war with China? Russia?

Who do we direct your sense of justice next? Who do we kill to liberate?

You are too eager to spill blood. Well I have had a bellyfull of it in my lifetime, and I wish the damn idiots who are so eager to start a war had the golden opportunity to be attacked themselves. War is easy, peace is hard. The US took the easy way out to make it's international dick seem bigger after 9/11.

ahhh so i am just eager to spill blood? ROFL!!! war is easy? it was never easy when i served...peace is hard? what makes it so hard? the fact that 12 years of diplomacy and sanction were not working, should we have said "purty pleez mr saddamy"? that one more magical time? while the people starved and were executed?

tell me have you ever served in the armed forces? is so with what unit in what theatre? if not, then how the %@$^ would you know war is "easy"? i ahve family and friends serving in iraq right now, the are proud to be there despite trash back at home that can only shoot off thier mouths about crap they really have nop first hand clue about.

I forget, what country did Saddam attack after the Gulf War? None.

As I said, and I repeat, war is easy, peace is hard.

We got our war, all we had to do was send bodies and machines. Where is the peace? Seems the quest isn't so easy is it Nimrod? How hard did Bush have to work to get this war?

"Go", and the soldiers went.

BTW, Rumsfeld did not go into Iraq with no idea who he was dealing with. We were counting on him to be exactly what he was so we could use him. As far as trash, please find the nearest bin and jump in. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
And we put Pinochet in power, and the Shah, and kept Saddam in power. Don't bring that high moral horse you ride around here. It's lame. You need to advocate the overthrow of the US govt if that is your attitude. We have our share of blood on our hands.

We allowed those the hundreds of thousands of deaths to happen because we wanted to play Iran off against Iraq. If we were back in those days now, you would have been justifying it. In best interest of the world don't you know. Rumsfeld shook the hand of the devil and he knew it.

he did ?he had a magical crystal ball that told him everything saddam would do? WOW!

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith This wasnt about liberation. This was Operation Get Saddam. This was a power trip with revenge thrown in.

When do we go to war with China? Russia?

Who do we direct your sense of justice next? Who do we kill to liberate?

You are too eager to spill blood. Well I have had a bellyfull of it in my lifetime, and I wish the damn idiots who are so eager to start a war had the golden opportunity to be attacked themselves. War is easy, peace is hard. The US took the easy way out to make it's international dick seem bigger after 9/11.

ahhh so i am just eager to spill blood? ROFL!!! war is easy? it was never easy when i served...peace is hard? what makes it so hard? the fact that 12 years of diplomacy and sanction were not working, should we have said "purty pleez mr saddamy"? that one more magical time? while the people starved and were executed?

tell me have you ever served in the armed forces? is so with what unit in what theatre? if not, then how the %@$^ would you know war is "easy"? i ahve family and friends serving in iraq right now, the are proud to be there despite trash back at home that can only shoot off thier mouths about crap they really have nop first hand clue about.

I forget, what country did Saddam attack after the Gulf War? None.

As I said, and I repeat, war is easy, peace is hard.

We got our war, all we had to do was send bodies and machines. Where is the peace? Seems the quest isn't so easy is it Nimrod? How hard did Bush have to work to get this war?

"Go", and the soldiers went.

BTW, Rumsfeld did not go into Iraq with no idea who he was dealing with. We were counting on him to be exactly what he was so we could use him. As far as trash, please find the nearest bin and jump in. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

no other country, but hundreds of thousands of his own people. the simple fact is iraq is better off now than it was before, electricity is available to more people than BEFORE the war, medical care is more available then BEFORE the war, but of course that means nothing. you do not read about the vastly improving conditions for the people of iraq, it is not politically expedient for liberals to talk about how these things are improving for iraqi's every day.

"Go", and the soldiers went."

that is right! men and women who put thier lives on the line everyday so clueless and ungrateful whelps can run off at the mouth. the REALITY is the vast majority believe in what they are doing, are proud to serve. how do i know? again i am not some punk@$$ kid talking s%%T on the internet, i am a veteran myself living at fort hood, and talk to many other soldiers whoose only reget about the blood,sweat, andl ives sacrificed is that the parasites of this country who really do nothing to help us will never learn, and probobly ever care what it is to be a soldier.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
And we put Pinochet in power, and the Shah, and kept Saddam in power. Don't bring that high moral horse you ride around here. It's lame. You need to advocate the overthrow of the US govt if that is your attitude. We have our share of blood on our hands.

We allowed those the hundreds of thousands of deaths to happen because we wanted to play Iran off against Iraq. If we were back in those days now, you would have been justifying it. In best interest of the world don't you know. Rumsfeld shook the hand of the devil and he knew it.

he did ?he had a magical crystal ball that told him everything saddam would do? WOW!

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith This wasnt about liberation. This was Operation Get Saddam. This was a power trip with revenge thrown in.

When do we go to war with China? Russia?

Who do we direct your sense of justice next? Who do we kill to liberate?

You are too eager to spill blood. Well I have had a bellyfull of it in my lifetime, and I wish the damn idiots who are so eager to start a war had the golden opportunity to be attacked themselves. War is easy, peace is hard. The US took the easy way out to make it's international dick seem bigger after 9/11.

ahhh so i am just eager to spill blood? ROFL!!! war is easy? it was never easy when i served...peace is hard? what makes it so hard? the fact that 12 years of diplomacy and sanction were not working, should we have said "purty pleez mr saddamy"? that one more magical time? while the people starved and were executed?

tell me have you ever served in the armed forces? is so with what unit in what theatre? if not, then how the %@$^ would you know war is "easy"? i ahve family and friends serving in iraq right now, the are proud to be there despite trash back at home that can only shoot off thier mouths about crap they really have nop first hand clue about.

I forget, what country did Saddam attack after the Gulf War? None.

As I said, and I repeat, war is easy, peace is hard.

We got our war, all we had to do was send bodies and machines. Where is the peace? Seems the quest isn't so easy is it Nimrod? How hard did Bush have to work to get this war?

"Go", and the soldiers went.

BTW, Rumsfeld did not go into Iraq with no idea who he was dealing with. We were counting on him to be exactly what he was so we could use him. As far as trash, please find the nearest bin and jump in. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

no other country, but hundreds of thousands of his own people. the simple fact is iraq is better off now than it was before, electricity is available to more people than BEFORE the war, medical care is more available then BEFORE the war, but of course that means nothing. you do not read about the vastly improving conditions for the people of iraq, it is not politically expedient for liberals to talk about how these things are improving for iraqi's every day.

"Go", and the soldiers went."

that is right! men and women who put thier lives on the line everyday so clueless and ungrateful whelps can run off at the mouth. the REALITY is the vast majority believe in what they are doing, are proud to serve. how do i know? again i am not some punk@$$ kid talking s%%T on the internet, i am a veteran myself living at fort hood, and talk to many other soldiers whoose only reget about the blood,sweat, andl ives sacrificed is that the parasites of this country who really do nothing to help us will never learn, and probobly ever care what it is to be a soldier.

Well, thats special Jr. Soldiers are entitled to be proud. That in no case makes YOU superior. Get over it.

When you grow up and look back at things you may feel different. Maybe you will learn that soldiers are not the same as the leaders who sent them. Maybe you will understand that my generation got suckered, and doesnt want to have that happen again. Maybe you won't learn. Also, some of the biggest asses I have known were in the service. Our soldiers deserve a better leader than Bush, and if you have been around for long enough you would have seen that I have taken to task those who would run down our troops. Our civilian leadership is another matter, and the fact that an individual serves does now exclude him from the possibility of being a dick.

Of course the Iraqis are better off than they were under Saddam. The would might be better off is I were king with absolute power. Even if that were true, it does not give me the right to test the hypothesis.

Learn two things.

Old men start wars that young men die for. Perhaps that is a soldiers duty, but it is the duty of others to make sure that american power is used properly. Maybe you dont care about your fellow soldiers and their families, but a hell of a lot of us against this war are for them, even if you might not understand it.

The second things is that civilian leaders are not soldiers. It is perfectly possible to be sympathetic to a soldiers situation and be incensed at the leadership.

Bush in effect said "Go" and they went. What they thought for or against mattered not. They went. BUSH had no problems. Your fellow soldiers did. It was no trouble for him. Still, the war came quickly didnt it?

So did the peace? They can all go home now?

I thought not.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
And we put Pinochet in power, and the Shah, and kept Saddam in power. Don't bring that high moral horse you ride around here. It's lame. You need to advocate the overthrow of the US govt if that is your attitude. We have our share of blood on our hands.

We allowed those the hundreds of thousands of deaths to happen because we wanted to play Iran off against Iraq. If we were back in those days now, you would have been justifying it. In best interest of the world don't you know. Rumsfeld shook the hand of the devil and he knew it.

he did ?he had a magical crystal ball that told him everything saddam would do? WOW!

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith This wasnt about liberation. This was Operation Get Saddam. This was a power trip with revenge thrown in.

When do we go to war with China? Russia?

Who do we direct your sense of justice next? Who do we kill to liberate?

You are too eager to spill blood. Well I have had a bellyfull of it in my lifetime, and I wish the damn idiots who are so eager to start a war had the golden opportunity to be attacked themselves. War is easy, peace is hard. The US took the easy way out to make it's international dick seem bigger after 9/11.

ahhh so i am just eager to spill blood? ROFL!!! war is easy? it was never easy when i served...peace is hard? what makes it so hard? the fact that 12 years of diplomacy and sanction were not working, should we have said "purty pleez mr saddamy"? that one more magical time? while the people starved and were executed?

tell me have you ever served in the armed forces? is so with what unit in what theatre? if not, then how the %@$^ would you know war is "easy"? i ahve family and friends serving in iraq right now, the are proud to be there despite trash back at home that can only shoot off thier mouths about crap they really have nop first hand clue about.

I forget, what country did Saddam attack after the Gulf War? None.

As I said, and I repeat, war is easy, peace is hard.

We got our war, all we had to do was send bodies and machines. Where is the peace? Seems the quest isn't so easy is it Nimrod? How hard did Bush have to work to get this war?

"Go", and the soldiers went.

BTW, Rumsfeld did not go into Iraq with no idea who he was dealing with. We were counting on him to be exactly what he was so we could use him. As far as trash, please find the nearest bin and jump in. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

no other country, but hundreds of thousands of his own people. the simple fact is iraq is better off now than it was before, electricity is available to more people than BEFORE the war, medical care is more available then BEFORE the war, but of course that means nothing. you do not read about the vastly improving conditions for the people of iraq, it is not politically expedient for liberals to talk about how these things are improving for iraqi's every day.

"Go", and the soldiers went."

that is right! men and women who put thier lives on the line everyday so clueless and ungrateful whelps can run off at the mouth. the REALITY is the vast majority believe in what they are doing, are proud to serve. how do i know? again i am not some punk@$$ kid talking s%%T on the internet, i am a veteran myself living at fort hood, and talk to many other soldiers whoose only reget about the blood,sweat, andl ives sacrificed is that the parasites of this country who really do nothing to help us will never learn, and probobly ever care what it is to be a soldier.

If they were given the choice(volunteered), I wonder how many of them would have went, or would still be there? I mean no disrespect to them, as they truly have put their lives on the line, but they don't have any choice as to whether they go or not.

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
And we put Pinochet in power, and the Shah, and kept Saddam in power. Don't bring that high moral horse you ride around here. It's lame. You need to advocate the overthrow of the US govt if that is your attitude. We have our share of blood on our hands.

We allowed those the hundreds of thousands of deaths to happen because we wanted to play Iran off against Iraq. If we were back in those days now, you would have been justifying it. In best interest of the world don't you know. Rumsfeld shook the hand of the devil and he knew it.

he did ?he had a magical crystal ball that told him everything saddam would do? WOW!

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith This wasnt about liberation. This was Operation Get Saddam. This was a power trip with revenge thrown in.

When do we go to war with China? Russia?

Who do we direct your sense of justice next? Who do we kill to liberate?

You are too eager to spill blood. Well I have had a bellyfull of it in my lifetime, and I wish the damn idiots who are so eager to start a war had the golden opportunity to be attacked themselves. War is easy, peace is hard. The US took the easy way out to make it's international dick seem bigger after 9/11.

ahhh so i am just eager to spill blood? ROFL!!! war is easy? it was never easy when i served...peace is hard? what makes it so hard? the fact that 12 years of diplomacy and sanction were not working, should we have said "purty pleez mr saddamy"? that one more magical time? while the people starved and were executed?

tell me have you ever served in the armed forces? is so with what unit in what theatre? if not, then how the %@$^ would you know war is "easy"? i ahve family and friends serving in iraq right now, the are proud to be there despite trash back at home that can only shoot off thier mouths about crap they really have nop first hand clue about.

I forget, what country did Saddam attack after the Gulf War? None.

As I said, and I repeat, war is easy, peace is hard.

We got our war, all we had to do was send bodies and machines. Where is the peace? Seems the quest isn't so easy is it Nimrod? How hard did Bush have to work to get this war?

"Go", and the soldiers went.

BTW, Rumsfeld did not go into Iraq with no idea who he was dealing with. We were counting on him to be exactly what he was so we could use him. As far as trash, please find the nearest bin and jump in. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

no other country, but hundreds of thousands of his own people. the simple fact is iraq is better off now than it was before, electricity is available to more people than BEFORE the war, medical care is more available then BEFORE the war, but of course that means nothing. you do not read about the vastly improving conditions for the people of iraq, it is not politically expedient for liberals to talk about how these things are improving for iraqi's every day.

"Go", and the soldiers went."

that is right! men and women who put thier lives on the line everyday so clueless and ungrateful whelps can run off at the mouth. the REALITY is the vast majority believe in what they are doing, are proud to serve. how do i know? again i am not some punk@$$ kid talking s%%T on the internet, i am a veteran myself living at fort hood, and talk to many other soldiers whoose only reget about the blood,sweat, andl ives sacrificed is that the parasites of this country who really do nothing to help us will never learn, and probobly ever care what it is to be a soldier.

If they were given the choice(volunteered), I wonder how many of them would have went, or would still be there? I mean no disrespect to them, as they truly have put their lives on the line, but they don't have any choice as to whether they go or not.

They made the choice when they signed the papers and enlisted. The military is not a democracy. You draw a paycheck whether you go to war or serve in peacetime.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
And we put Pinochet in power, and the Shah, and kept Saddam in power. Don't bring that high moral horse you ride around here. It's lame. You need to advocate the overthrow of the US govt if that is your attitude. We have our share of blood on our hands.

We allowed those the hundreds of thousands of deaths to happen because we wanted to play Iran off against Iraq. If we were back in those days now, you would have been justifying it. In best interest of the world don't you know. Rumsfeld shook the hand of the devil and he knew it.

he did ?he had a magical crystal ball that told him everything saddam would do? WOW!

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith This wasnt about liberation. This was Operation Get Saddam. This was a power trip with revenge thrown in.

When do we go to war with China? Russia?

Who do we direct your sense of justice next? Who do we kill to liberate?

You are too eager to spill blood. Well I have had a bellyfull of it in my lifetime, and I wish the damn idiots who are so eager to start a war had the golden opportunity to be attacked themselves. War is easy, peace is hard. The US took the easy way out to make it's international dick seem bigger after 9/11.

ahhh so i am just eager to spill blood? ROFL!!! war is easy? it was never easy when i served...peace is hard? what makes it so hard? the fact that 12 years of diplomacy and sanction were not working, should we have said "purty pleez mr saddamy"? that one more magical time? while the people starved and were executed?

tell me have you ever served in the armed forces? is so with what unit in what theatre? if not, then how the %@$^ would you know war is "easy"? i ahve family and friends serving in iraq right now, the are proud to be there despite trash back at home that can only shoot off thier mouths about crap they really have nop first hand clue about.

I forget, what country did Saddam attack after the Gulf War? None.

As I said, and I repeat, war is easy, peace is hard.

We got our war, all we had to do was send bodies and machines. Where is the peace? Seems the quest isn't so easy is it Nimrod? How hard did Bush have to work to get this war?

"Go", and the soldiers went.

BTW, Rumsfeld did not go into Iraq with no idea who he was dealing with. We were counting on him to be exactly what he was so we could use him. As far as trash, please find the nearest bin and jump in. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

no other country, but hundreds of thousands of his own people. the simple fact is iraq is better off now than it was before, electricity is available to more people than BEFORE the war, medical care is more available then BEFORE the war, but of course that means nothing. you do not read about the vastly improving conditions for the people of iraq, it is not politically expedient for liberals to talk about how these things are improving for iraqi's every day.

"Go", and the soldiers went."

that is right! men and women who put thier lives on the line everyday so clueless and ungrateful whelps can run off at the mouth. the REALITY is the vast majority believe in what they are doing, are proud to serve. how do i know? again i am not some punk@$$ kid talking s%%T on the internet, i am a veteran myself living at fort hood, and talk to many other soldiers whoose only reget about the blood,sweat, andl ives sacrificed is that the parasites of this country who really do nothing to help us will never learn, and probobly ever care what it is to be a soldier.

If they were given the choice(volunteered), I wonder how many of them would have went, or would still be there? I mean no disrespect to them, as they truly have put their lives on the line, but they don't have any choice as to whether they go or not.

They made the choice when they signed the papers and enlisted. The military is not a democracy. You draw a paycheck whether you go to war or serve in peacetime.

My point exactly. They are in Iraq not because they have agreed that a war in Iraq was justified, but because they are required to be as per their agreement when joining the forces.