Anyone else not really care about Haiti?

[Hey Zeus]

I think it's a terrible tragedy and my heart goes out to them all but i'm honestly sick of seeing people from there demanding help and crying because no one will help them.

Instead of donating millions of dollars to a fucking country that doesn't effect us in any way. Take those donations and put them to use in THIS country. I'm sure there's some homeless person in this country that's freezing to death huddled near a fucking garbage can with a fire going. Give them money, water, food, a place to stay, a fucking bed.

Rant over. Please don't flame me but i urge you to express your opinion

 

[Raduque]

Yea, I don't really care.

 

[Nik]

I think it's a terrible tragedy and my heart goes out to them all but i'm honestly sick of seeing people from there demanding help and crying because no one will help them.

Instead of donating millions of dollars to a fucking country that doesn't effect us in any way. Take those donations and put them to use in THIS country. I'm sure there's some homeless person in this country that's freezing to death huddled near a fucking garbage can with a fire going. Give them money, water, food, a place to stay, a fucking bed.

Rant over. Please don't flame me but i urge you to express your opinion

HERE FUCKING HERE. Hey Zeus for President!

 

[arch113]

Yea, I don't really care.

Same here

 

[LinuxIdiot]

I care, but I am tired of hearing about it everywhere I turn and CNN has it all over their damned homepage.

Was discussing this with room-mate yesterday and she felt the same

 

[Firsttime]

I probably have more connections to Haiti then the average white person. I've been there, my parents have been adopting from there for 3 years, hopefully this speeds that up. I know someone who died in the quake.

But that entire country is screwed beyond repair. No amount of money will fix that country. True compassion would involve rich countries accepting Haitian citizens as refugees, because frankly they have it worse then a lot of countries where the citizens are refugees.

 

[djmartins]

I think it's a terrible tragedy and my heart goes out to them all but i'm honestly sick of seeing people from there demanding help and crying because no one will help them.

I'd be interested in helping them if I thought there was the slightest
chance that sometime in the future the place wouldn't be a hell hole.
Haiti is as bad as Africa.


regards,
DJ

 

[Nik]

I probably have more connections to Haiti then the average white person. I've been there, my parents have been adopting from there for 3 years, hopefully this speeds that up. I know someone who died in the quake.

But that entire country is screwed beyond repair. No amount of money will fix that country. True compassion would involve rich countries accepting Haitian citizens as refugees, because frankly they have it worse then a lot of countries where the citizens are refugees.

Wouldn't that just spread the mindset of "we're going to trash our country and we don't give a shit" to other countries? I don't really think that's a good idea.

 

[FoBoT]

some disasters are so bad, that the best efforts won't make as big a difference as people would like

it is still good for people to try, but my fear is over the next weeks/months the place will degenerate into total anarchy (essentially the start of the Zombie Apocalypse)

it is all very sad/tragic

 

[DnetMHZ]

But caring about people in your own country isn't going to get you a photo op. with Bono, DUH!

 

[irishScott]

Yeah, I've become somewhat apathetic about natural disasters beyond our borders. Sure I'm sympathetic, but there's too much shit happening around the world to worry about all of it.

That said I have no problem with sending aid, although seeing as how we're in a bit of an economic crisis and budgets are already strained, I may have issues with its extent. Way things are going we're going to have approximately the same number of troops involved as the UN. I know we're a super-power and all, but you'd think the rest of the world could pick up more than half.

 

[CRXican]

I'm annoyed that they're bringing orphans into this country. Just what we need.

 

[jspeicher]

I can't imagine what those people are going through. You really can't understand the situation of something like that unless you are involved in it first hand.

I do however agree that its quite disturbing how easily our country hands out millions of dollars in aid around the world probably on a daily basis. However, there are so many problems within our borders that remain unfixed.

How about we end the goal-less wars in the middle east and invest some of that military budget into fixing health care in our country. Yea, never going to happen.

 

[darkxshade]

Haiti is too big to fail... that's why the US is bailing them out. Get it through your thick skulls people.

 

[Firsttime]

Wouldn't that just spread the mindset of "we're going to trash our country and we don't give a shit" to other countries? I don't really think that's a good idea.

Yes obviously it is the average Haitian's fault that their country has been trashed beyond repair. You were right, thanks for correcting me.

Seriously though, I agree in principle that clear cutting an island to provide energy to cook the goats that eat the baby trees but happen to be your only viable food source because other countries decided you couldn't be trusted not to start some new swine disease is bad. And I agree that the whole mentality of their revolution wasn't healthy for the island's economy and the choices of Haitians in the past certainly have had bearing on those in the present. When one is surviving on less the $1 a day as is the case with over 90% of Haitians I'm guessing most any of us would do whatever it takes to survive. That is certainly something most of us cannot comprehend in cozy North America where most of us were fortunate enough to be born.

I'm not advocating starting huge refugee camps in Texas or something just merely throwing out the suggestion that instead of continually tossing money in that sinkhole maybe there are better alternatives.

 

[JS80]

No one truly cares about Haiti. They are all pretending to care right now to make themselves feel good. Trust me on this.

 

[chitwood]

Was discussing this with room-mate yesterday and she felt the same

pic of roommate

 

[Nik]

No one truly cares about Haiti. They are all pretending to care right now to make themselves feel good. Trust me on this.

I trust you!

 

[mugs]

The Haitians are stuck in the situation they're in, and their own government is not capable of doing what needs to be done.

The people who are living on the streets in the US have access to emergency medical care, they have access to food and often shelter through our government and private charities. We can't fix their situation by giving them more money, but money WILL help buy the supplies the Haitians need to survive.

I don't care if you don't care about the Haitians, but the idea that we should just let them die because they had the bad luck to be born outside of our borders is disgusting.

 

[Nik]

Yes obviously it is the average Haitian's fault that their country has been trashed beyond repair.

Well I don't exactly see people rising up and overthrowing the corrupt government to make a better life for themselves...

 

[Firsttime]

Well I don't exactly see people rising up and overthrowing the corrupt government to make a better life for themselves...

We probably have the all-knowing UN to thank for that. Their presence had really stabilized a lot of the nation last time I was there, I felt perfectly safe in most places. Whenever things get bad there someone (France, US, the UN) has a tendency to come in and restore things to the way they were before. It's close enough to the US that it is in their best interest to make sure the country doesn't descend into some anarchist state like Somalia or something.

That's my opinion on it all.

 

[JS80]

Well I don't exactly see people rising up and overthrowing the corrupt government to make a better life for themselves...

Well they did rise up, but they overthrew the good government and replaced it with a corrupt one. Story of all shitty countries. Kick out the "evil" white man and replace it with their own corrupt shitheads.

 

[rudder]

Well I don't exactly see people rising up and overthrowing the corrupt government to make a better life for themselves...

Easier said than done. As in most cases corrupt dictatorships usually have some type of sponsoring government (U.S., Russia, etc.) This means plenty of money to buy your own security forces and weapons to beat down the peasants.

 

[Nik]

Well they did rise up, but they overthrew the good government and replaced it with a corrupt one. Story of all shitty countries. Kick out the "evil" white man and replace it with their own corrupt shitheads.

Yet another reason not to want that kind of mentality here.

 

[rasczak]

Wouldn't that just spread the mindset of "we're going to trash our country and we don't give a shit" to other countries? I don't really think that's a good idea.

it could go both ways. it really depends on the individual and whether or not they want to make their lives better badly enough. I would hope that most would want a better life, and if moving to a new country could provide that then maybe it would be worth it to open up to refugees. The whole trash our country mentality really starts at the top (government). with the widescale corruption there, the morale of the people is low thinking there's no way out. however if a change in scenery and opportunity were given i bet we would see more productive citizens here than even some of the homebred americans.