Anyone else mad that people are trying to blame people other than the terrorists for 9/11?

[tnitsuj]

 

[Orsorum]

No.

 

[alchemize]

I voted yes

As I predicted, it has become a political football in every sense of the term. How soon people forget that day and try to turn it to their political advantage.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: alchemize
I voted yes

As I predicted, it has become a political football in every sense of the term. How soon people forget that day and try to turn it to their political advantage.

If Bush had never used that tragedy for his campaign and by saying what a good wartime President he is (obviously he isn't) maybe it wouldn't have become such a partisan issue.

 

[maddogchen]

Its annoying how people blame the US for 9/11

I bet these are the same people who blame the rape victim for getting herself raped because she wore something "too provocative"

 

[tnitsuj]

Originally posted by: alchemize
I voted yes

As I predicted, it has become a political football in every sense of the term. How soon people forget that day and try to turn it to their political advantage.

The president is using the attacks for his political advantage, but that in no way excuses the blame casters.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: maddogchen
Its annoying how people blame the US for 9/11

I bet these are the same people who blame the rape victim for getting herself raped because she wore something "too provocative"

What amazes me is how people can manage to lump together culpability to a crime and contributing towards the commission or motive to commit that crime.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: alchemize
I voted yes

As I predicted, it has become a political football in every sense of the term. How soon people forget that day and try to turn it to their political advantage.

If Bush had never used that tragedy for his campaign and by saying what a good wartime President he is (obviously he isn't) maybe it wouldn't have become such a partisan issue.

And I have a nice stretch of property in Florida that is for sale

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

If Bush had never used that tragedy for his campaign and by saying what a good wartime President he is (obviously he isn't) maybe it wouldn't have become such a partisan issue.

to believe this is truly naive, Bush never put much emphasis on his guard service yet that was dragged into heavy scrutiny...to believe this wouldn't be made into an issue by commie Kerry is foolhearty.

 

[conjur]

The U.S. gov't has been hated by militant Islamists for YEARS because of our support of Israel (which illegally occupies the Gaza Strip).

It worsened greatly with our military presence in Saudi Arabia in 1991. That lead Al Qaeda to focus on attacking us and our interests.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

If Bush had never used that tragedy for his campaign and by saying what a good wartime President he is (obviously he isn't) maybe it wouldn't have become such a partisan issue.

to believe this is truly naive, Bush never put much emphasis on his guard service yet that was dragged into heavy scrutiny...to believe this wouldn't be made into an issue by commie Kerry is foolhearty.

Yeah you are right. Of course it takes two (parties) to tangle

 

[LordMagnusKain]

Originally posted by: con
they just had to rape the b!ch, see wasn't waring underware under that skirt, and her tit's where almost hanging out!...

no, i don't think that justifies rape.

Victims fault huh?

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain

Originally posted by: con
they just had to rape the b!ch, see wasn't waring underware under that skirt, and her tit's where almost hanging out!...

no, i don't think that justifies rape.

Victims fault huh?

Where the hell did that post come from?

 

[DoubleL]

No terrorists is responsible for 9/11, I don't care if they are Al Qaeda, ETA, Palestinian or what ever they call their selfs, Iraq has supported terrorists for a decade, As far as Israel they put up with 9/11's all the time and no one cares, I just wonder what would have happened if Israel hadn't taken out Iraq's nude program, Seems a lot of people, Clinton one of them thinks it was our fault 9/11 happened, I don't

 

[zephyrprime]

Yesterday I heard a lady on the radio who had lost a family member on one of the planes during 9/11 saying "the airlines have to take responsibility for the this [the hijacking of planes]" and that's why she's gave for suing.

Come on. What were the airlines supposed to do? No one knew. It's the terrorists fault.

 

[MonstaThrilla]

Originally posted by: maddogchen
Its annoying how people blame the US for 9/11

I bet these are the same people who blame the rape victim for getting herself raped because she wore something "too provocative"

Who's blaming the US for 9/11?

Acknowledging the failure of intelligence is not blaming.

 

[markuskidd]

Well, I know it's not a perfect analogy, and I'm not sure I completely agree, but imagine this scenario:

In DC, the city government scales back the police force by 75%, and in the following month, the rate of violent crime doubles. Are citizens of DC who become upset at the government and blame them for the increase in crime wrong? What would be the most productive thing to do -- fault only/primarily the kind of people who commit these criminal acts or try to get better police protection again?


tnitsuj, I'm especially interested in your thoughts on this hypothetical situation.

 

[0roo0roo]

they made it a campaign issue. they did not admit they did far less then even clinton. they just covered with lies and pretended they were what they were not.. so no, i'm not mad at people for pointing out their bed of lies.

 

[maddogchen]

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla

Originally posted by: maddogchen
Its annoying how people blame the US for 9/11

I bet these are the same people who blame the rape victim for getting herself raped because she wore something "too provocative"

Who's blaming the US for 9/11?

Acknowledging the failure of intelligence is not blaming.

Just people on forums in other countries saying that its the US fault for their policies around the world and in the Middle East. There are quite a few of these people actually.

Here's a link I found through google. This article was written back in 2002.

A vast majority of Canadians believes the United States bears at least some responsibility for the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks because of U.S. policies in the Middle East and around the globe, according to a Globe and Mail/CTV poll.
....In the Ipsos-Reid survey -- which polled 1,000 Canadians last week -- 69 per cent of respondents said the U.S. shares some of the responsibility for the attacks, while 15 per cent said all of the responsibility sits on American shoulders. The attacks killed thousands of civilians and U.S. military personnel at the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon in Washington.

 

[Officerdown]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: alchemize
I voted yes

As I predicted, it has become a political football in every sense of the term. How soon people forget that day and try to turn it to their political advantage.

If Bush had never used that tragedy for his campaign and by saying what a good wartime President he is (obviously he isn't) maybe it wouldn't have become such a partisan issue.

Do you think Lincoln would run a campaign without mentioning the Civil War? I bet he would mention it.

 

[MonstaThrilla]

Originally posted by: maddogchen

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla

Originally posted by: maddogchen
Its annoying how people blame the US for 9/11

I bet these are the same people who blame the rape victim for getting herself raped because she wore something "too provocative"

Who's blaming the US for 9/11?

Acknowledging the failure of intelligence is not blaming.

Just people on forums in other countries saying that its the US fault for their policies around the world and in the Middle East. There are quite a few of these people actually.

Here's a link I found through google. This article was written back in 2002.

A vast majority of Canadians believes the United States bears at least some responsibility for the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks because of U.S. policies in the Middle East and around the globe, according to a Globe and Mail/CTV poll.
....In the Ipsos-Reid survey -- which polled 1,000 Canadians last week -- 69 per cent of respondents said the U.S. shares some of the responsibility for the attacks, while 15 per cent said all of the responsibility sits on American shoulders. The attacks killed thousands of civilians and U.S. military personnel at the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon in Washington.

Well that's different than what I interpreted this thread to be about. With Dick Clarke's recent revelations and shifting of blame for the intelligence failures, I was assuming that was the topic.

I think a major problem people are having is the thought that blaming either single administration (or both for that matter) for not preventing 9/11 is tantamount to blaming the US as a country FOR 9/11. I'm seeing the same leap of logic that caused the Iraq to be lumped with 9/11.

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: Officerdown

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: alchemize
I voted yes

As I predicted, it has become a political football in every sense of the term. How soon people forget that day and try to turn it to their political advantage.

If Bush had never used that tragedy for his campaign and by saying what a good wartime President he is (obviously he isn't) maybe it wouldn't have become such a partisan issue.

Do you think Lincoln would run a campaign without mentioning the Civil War? I bet he would mention it.

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: alchemize
I voted yes

As I predicted, it has become a political football in every sense of the term. How soon people forget that day and try to turn it to their political advantage.

If Bush had never used that tragedy for his campaign and by saying what a good wartime President he is (obviously he isn't) maybe it wouldn't have become such a partisan issue.

'This guy' sends Bushies reeling

One aide said the White House was further blindsided because they never expected 9/11 to be politicized.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Gaard

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: alchemize
I voted yes

As I predicted, it has become a political football in every sense of the term. How soon people forget that day and try to turn it to their political advantage.

If Bush had never used that tragedy for his campaign and by saying what a good wartime President he is (obviously he isn't) maybe it wouldn't have become such a partisan issue.

'This guy' sends Bushies reeling

One aide said the White House was further blindsided because they never expected 9/11 to be politicized.

"I am a wartime president."

 

[rextilleon]

Why is it that right wing republicans can not differentiate between the war on terror and the war in Iraq. Just a tidbit from todays news--a major cleric in Baghdad called 9/11 "a miracle of Allah" and then called for the destruction of all Jews wherever they could be found. These are the people we are sarificing American lives for in an utterly futile attempt to make them progressive westerners. It's really bizzare.