Anyone else losing hair? What do you use to prevent it...anything work?

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rnmcd

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: apoppin
Acupuncture (the point that meets 100 others at the top of the head) may help

also TCM herbs

Daily massage may help

So may diet, exercise and rest (cut out the stress).

but not too helpful for heredity male pattern baldness

on the drug side, rogaine may help 10-25% of men (but you gotta use it every day - HORRIBLE FOR LONG-TERM!!!)
Seriously!

Massage, diet and exercise cost nothing and may help (significantly).

I have thinned twice. The first time Acupuncture completely regrew the bald spot. Now my hair is filling in again after months of neglect.

apoppin, have you tried acupuncture again for this second bout with hairloss?

By the way, what city is you acupuncturist located?

Thanks.
 

thereds

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: apoppin
Acupuncture (the point that meets 100 others at the top of the head) may help

also TCM herbs

Daily massage may help

So may diet, exercise and rest (cut out the stress).

but not too helpful for heredity male pattern baldness

on the drug side, rogaine may help 10-25% of men (but you gotta use it every day - HORRIBLE FOR LONG-TERM!!!)
Seriously!

Massage, diet and exercise cost nothing and may help (significantly).

I have thinned twice. The first time Acupuncture completely regrew the bald spot. Now my hair is filling in again after months of neglect.

What is a good diet? This question sounds silly but I'd really like to know 'coz I eat crap all day and I know its hurting me.

What should I do exercise wise? Run a lot? Lift weights?

I'm not really sure about the massage bit since I wouldn't know where to go asking for one :)
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: thereds
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: apoppin
Acupuncture (the point that meets 100 others at the top of the head) may help

also TCM herbs

Daily massage may help

So may diet, exercise and rest (cut out the stress).

but not too helpful for heredity male pattern baldness

on the drug side, rogaine may help 10-25% of men (but you gotta use it every day - HORRIBLE FOR LONG-TERM!!!)
Seriously!

Massage, diet and exercise cost nothing and may help (significantly).

I have thinned twice. The first time Acupuncture completely regrew the bald spot. Now my hair is filling in again after months of neglect.

What is a good diet? This question sounds silly but I'd really like to know 'coz I eat crap all day and I know its hurting me.

What should I do exercise wise? Run a lot? Lift weights?

I'm not really sure about the massage bit since I wouldn't know where to go asking for one :)
A good diet? Better educate yourself . . . if you plan to live long and prosper. ;)

The best way to start a good diet is by substituting - sub LIVE food for refined food; fruit for candy, fruit juices and water for soda; whole wheat for white bread; brown for white rice. Cut out fried foods (grill instead).

If you don't exercise, START WALKING - daily; fast walking at least 1/2 hour a day (pretend you are late for a bus).

MASSAGE your OWN scalp . . . briskly but not so hard as to damage hair. 20 minutes a day is MINIMUM (hey, it feels good and you can do it whenever [no one is looking]. :D

I don't do acupuncture anymore . . . no need, since my herniated C4-C5 disk no longer gives me ANY problems . . . just all of the above and my bald spot is again filling in (it has taken since May, to get really noticeable results) . . . SO, PATIENCE.

;)





 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: thereds
Does acupuncture hurt?
No - the needle is as fine as a single hair and although you micht feel a "pinch", often you won't feel it at all. It also helps to have a SKILLED practicioner - do NOT go to an MD for acupuncture - go to a licensed (and recommended) acupuncture specialist.

(Actually, it can "hurt" IF the practitioner needs to "push the chi" and then it is like an electric shock for just an instant - but this is pretty rare or you are really sick)
 

boyRacer

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propecia and rogaine like i said... just go to the hairlosstalk.com forums if you want more info. :) i know baldness ran in our family so i got ready for it even before 20... hahaha. :D
 

rnmcd

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Originally posted by: boyRacer
propecia and rogaine like i said... just go to the hairlosstalk.com forums if you want more info. :) i know baldness ran in our family so i got ready for it even before 20... hahaha. :D

I tried rogaine but it gave me dandruff the size of dimes...

I am scared of propecia. Not because of the reduced sexual desire but because some users grow breast tissue (gynecomastia).

 

Turkish

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Originally posted by: caramel
Try Rogaine. It's a type of shampoo, methinks. It's supposed to prevent further hairloss.

does rogaine really have a shampoo? i think you have to spray it on your bald spot or something.. i'm not sure.
 

dethman

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based on experience of people i know, finasteride (propecia) can cause significant regrowth of hair. Rogaine on the other hand is crap.
 

boyRacer

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Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: caramel
Try Rogaine. It's a type of shampoo, methinks. It's supposed to prevent further hairloss.

does rogaine really have a shampoo? i think you have to spray it on your bald spot or something.. i'm not sure.

there is a rogaine shampoo but it does not regrow hair... its meant to make your hair look thicker. the rogaine that regrows hair is a topical solution.

 

boyRacer

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Originally posted by: dethman
based on experience of people i know, finasteride (propecia) can cause significant regrowth of hair. Rogaine on the other hand is crap.

finasteride has been proven to help keep the hair you have now... in some people... it does regrow a slight amount. rogaine by itself does not effectively stop hairloss... taking finasteride to stop hair loss and rogaine to encourage regrowth of hair is an effective combination. dutasteride has been available for about a year and has been show to be more effective than finasteride because it blocks two types of testosterone that is believed to cause hair loss in men... while finasteride only stops one. i believe the drug is called avodart. i havent heard much about it though... only... that it causes shedding the first few months of treatment... and its quite expensive.
 

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i swear by nair. you can get it at your neighborhood drug store... it really IS surprising how many people are bald nowadays with such an effective and readily available cure.

-doctor chow
 

rnmcd

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Originally posted by: dethman
based on experience of people i know, finasteride (propecia) can cause significant regrowth of hair. Rogaine on the other hand is crap.

how in the fvck do you know "people" on finasteride....I can't find a single one.

If you get a chance to ask them see how long it took for the regrowth and did the side-effects bother them?

Thanks.
 

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Before you do anything, you need to determine WHY you are losing hair. Go see a doc. It could be due to androgen production (most likely), hypervitaminosis, or hypothyroidism. The latter two are easy to combat, the first is tricky and potentially expensive.

Balding in 95% of men is caused by excess production of the androgen Dihydrotestosterone or excess androgen receptors in hair follicle cells - To combat hair loss in this case you need to inhibit the conversion of testoserone to DHT. DHT "chokes" hair follicles and causes them to stop growing or die... There are several ways to do this - without going into much detail you need to look into oral anti androgens such as finasteride or duratestide - or topical agents such as nizoral shampoo, spironolactone, azelaic acid, minoxidil, and xandrox. You can also combine both for the most effective hair regrowth. I would not use an over the counter product alone - it will not be very effective.

In any case, check this web site out:
http://minoxidil.com/
 

rnmcd

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Originally posted by: Blackened
Before you do anything, you need to determine WHY you are losing hair. Go see a doc. It could be due to androgen production (most likely), hypervitaminosis, or hypothyroidism. The latter two are easy to combat, the first is tricky and potentially expensive.

Balding in 95% of men is caused by excess production of the androgen Dihydrotestosterone or excess androgen receptors in hair follicle cells - To combat hair loss in this case you need to inhibit the conversion of testoserone to DHT. DHT "chokes" hair follicles and causes them to stop growing or die... There are several ways to do this - without going into much detail you need to look into oral anti androgens such as finasteride or duratestide - or topical agents such as nizoral shampoo, spironolactone, azelaic acid, minoxidil, and xandrox. You can also combine both for the most effective hair regrowth. I would not use an over the counter product alone - it will not be very effective.

In any case, check this web site out:
http://minoxidil.com/

I've been to two different dermatologists and they don't do any tests they just give me a prescription for Proscar (finasteriade).

How do they test forhypervitaminosis? Even though I think my problem is DHT I have been ingesting large amounts of vitamins for years to combat allergies, swollen tonsils (chronic), acne, ....and hairloss.

I would take the Proscar but I can't get much information about the side effects (and if the side effects are reversiblel)from actual users.

Has duratestide been approved for hairloss yet?

Thanks.

 

Blackened

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Originally posted by: rnmcd
Originally posted by: Blackened
Before you do anything, you need to determine WHY you are losing hair. Go see a doc. It could be due to androgen production (most likely), hypervitaminosis, or hypothyroidism. The latter two are easy to combat, the first is tricky and potentially expensive.

Balding in 95% of men is caused by excess production of the androgen Dihydrotestosterone or excess androgen receptors in hair follicle cells - To combat hair loss in this case you need to inhibit the conversion of testoserone to DHT. DHT "chokes" hair follicles and causes them to stop growing or die... There are several ways to do this - without going into much detail you need to look into oral anti androgens such as finasteride or duratestide - or topical agents such as nizoral shampoo, spironolactone, azelaic acid, minoxidil, and xandrox. You can also combine both for the most effective hair regrowth. I would not use an over the counter product alone - it will not be very effective.

In any case, check this web site out:
http://minoxidil.com/

I've been to two different dermatologists and they don't do any tests they just give me a prescription for Proscar (finasteriade).

How do they test forhypervitaminosis? Even though I think my problem is DHT I have been ingesting large amounts of vitamins for years to combat allergies, swollen tonsils (chronic), acne, ....and hairloss.

I would take the Proscar but I can't get much information about the side effects (and if the side effects are reversiblel)from actual users.

Has duratestide been approved for hairloss yet?

Thanks.

I'm not quite sure as to how vitaminosis is tested for, but in general the condition is caused by simply intaking too large a volume of vitamin A or taking a vitamin A related medication. If you've ever taken the medication accutane for acne, it is likely you have this condition - although the condition (and accompying hairloss) will usually stop once you cease the excess vitamin A intake.

As to proscar and duratestide (only the former is approved for hairloss , the other for prostate enlargement) - they have both shown to be reasonably safe and side effect free in just about all users, but one major side effect you should be aware of is a loss of libido. Since DHT is an androgen, it is very much responsible for sex drive - so inhibiting it in some cases may
lead to a loss of interest in sex.