Anyone else feel like we're about to enter a period of civil unrest in this country?

[Nebor]

You win the Lulziest post of the day award :thumbsup::thumbsup:

I don't get it.

 

[Jaskalas]

Seems like a long shot. I think we'll see New Deal type intervention before we see unrest.

I'm sure many people believe government intervention is what helps push us towards civil unrest. Think of all the trillions spent already just to bring the economy to where it is now. Trillions more, printed and inflated, are just going to crush our dollar and make food / fuel unaffordable to so many more.

It's not like that technology is disappearing. There's no good reason we should becoming poorer. If you want to ague that growth won't be as fast, fine but that doesn't mean we should be going down the drain which is what everyone seems to think is happening.

Down the drain... you have to stop and think about what we say leads to that. It'd be rioting and violence that ruins this country. I'm saying people with false expectations are going to demand more from the wealthy. It won't work, and they'll have a choice to either accept poorer, more realistic conditions, or attempt to take it from others.

Human nature tells us what they'll choose.

I suppose the premise of why we'd have less stems from a belief. That we have lived beyond our means. That the promises of the past cannot be kept. The 'wealth' we supposed we had was an illusion brought out by unique opportunities, bubbles and ponzi schemes.

The rise of the global economy and strong competitors has ended our unique opportunity after WW2. Our bubble most certainly popped in 2008, and the ponzi schemes need more growth to survive. We're not 'poorer' per say, that's really just a matter of perspective and semantics. The reality is that extra wealth never existed in the first place.

It's like buying a home with the expectation that in 10 years it'll be worth 3 times what you paid for it. Then you go out and get healthcare, send your kids to college, buy a new car, live up the good life. Until the bill comes due and your house didn't grow as much as expected. Suddenly you're much 'poorer'.

Essentially our economy was banked on money we didn't have. Now we get to make up the difference and I don't think it's in our nature to put up with that. Attempts at government intervention are proof of that.

 

[Infohawk]

I'm sure many people believe government intervention is what helps push us towards civil unrest. Think of all the trillions spent already just to bring the economy to where it is now. Trillions more, printed and inflated, are just going to crush our dollar and make food / fuel unaffordable to so many more.

Down the drain... you have to stop and think about what we say leads to that. It'd be rioting and violence that ruins this country. I'm saying people with false expectations are going to demand more from the wealthy. It won't work, and they'll have a choice to either accept poorer, more realistic conditions, or attempt to take it from others.

Human nature tells us what they'll choose.

I suppose the premise of why we'd have less stems from a belief. That we have lived beyond our means. That the promises of the past cannot be kept. The 'wealth' we supposed we had was an illusion brought out by unique opportunities, bubbles and ponzi schemes.

The rise of the global economy and strong competitors has ended our unique opportunity after WW2. Our bubble most certainly popped in 2008, and the ponzi schemes need more growth to survive. We're not 'poorer' per say, that's really just a matter of perspective and semantics. The reality is that extra wealth never existed in the first place.

It's like buying a home with the expectation that in 10 years it'll be worth 3 times what you paid for it. Then you go out and get healthcare, send your kids to college, buy a new car, live up the good life. Until the bill comes due and your house didn't grow as much as expected. Suddenly you're much 'poorer'.

Essentially our economy was banked on money we didn't have. Now we get to make up the difference and I don't think it's in our nature to put up with that. Attempts at government intervention are proof of that.

You're acting like all development since WW2 was just like the housing bubble which is ridiculous. Anyway, there's two separate questions here: 1) are we going to get poorer and 2) is there going to be civil unrest. 1) I wasn't saying that we aren't going to get poorer but it's something that can be avoided. 2) My main point was that unrest is a long shot. There's a lot government can do to avoid it. The country didn't destroy itself during the Great Depression for example.

 

[Spikesoldier]

id say around 2018 is when the shit hits the fan. get your guns/ammo within the next couple of years and you'll be ok.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

I don't get it.

Go talk to a soldier and ask them if they would goto war against American citizens, their neighbors, friends and family. Not gonna happen.

 

[Moonbeam]

I think we are experiencing the death throws of Conservative ignorance as that kind of thinking reaches its zenith and begins to go extinct.

 

[Nebor]

Go talk to a soldier and ask them if they would goto war against American citizens, their neighbors, friends and family. Not gonna happen.

The active duty Army is drawn from all over the country (world even) and thus a particular unit isn't going to have too much of an issue in any part of the country. If you federalized and mobilized the national guard, it would probably be better to have them operate outside of their home states.

Active Duty Army battalions have been deployed in the continental United States repeatedly in the last decade. And for many, the War on Terror saying of "The US military is at war, the citizens are at the mall or watching American Idol," carries a lot of weight. There is a huge divide between the military and the citizenry at this point. I was shocked when I discovered it.

 

[Munky]

Perhaps the most important fact-today's youth is far less motivated and too easily distracted. Too many xbox couch potatoes around to have real unrest.

Perhaps the #1 reason why we won't have civil unrest. Unless the couch potatoes are no longer able to afford playing xbox.

 

[Spikesoldier]

Perhaps the #1 reason why we won't have civil unrest. Unless the couch potatoes are no longer able to afford playing xbox.

or when xbox live goes down or electricity gets cut off. then the massacre of couch potatoes by everyone else begins.

 

[Lithium381]

id say around 2018 is when the shit hits the fan. get your guns/ammo within the next couple of years and you'll be ok.

you're assuming you'll still be able to..... i'm waiting for the day that a hardcore gun grabber takes office and fskcs us all. after that there is no way to stop the machine.

 

[Onceler]

And I'm not talking a few hundred people roaming through Wallstreet with picket signs.

Based on all major economic indicators, this country is headed for longterm disaster. We've all but lost our manufacturing sector, and our once booming automotive industry is now being propped up by the government. We're rapidly falling behind in science and technology, which is where a good number of high paying jobs are right now. We once used to be a bastion for R&D, and now we're cutting funding for NASA and shutting down research projects left and right. In education, we lag the rest of the civilized world. In healthcare, same story.

What kind of America will we be left with? The corporate scum has been raiding this country with their phony derivative schemes, garbage home loans, etc. while providing absolutely nothing of value to society. The middle class is dying, and I see it all around me every day. I think we are just starting to see the beginnings of a hopefully short period of civil unrest in this country.

I don't think this is a bad thing. For us to truly change how this country operates and how our politicians and government serve us, we have to hit rock bottom. People have to get angry enough to demand the change we all deserve and throw these phony politicians out of office and get this corporate money out of Washington once and for all.

The South should have won.