Anyone else fed up hearing about apple?

[Ns1]

I wonder if the Apple employees ever get mad because it wasn't Jobs staying up late at night drawing and testing these inventions and coming up with new ideas working 24/7. All he did was market them and approve or dis-approve new designs made by his employees, and he gets all the accolades. Any Apple employees out there? How do you really feel about all this?

anybody who is anybody has worked their ass off to get where they are.

 

[Ninjahedge]

Um, you are playing in a fantasy realm. Saying one man not doing something is like saying WITHOUT Edison we would not have lights (BTW, Edison kicks Jobs' arse, sorry. He kicks MOST arses!).

It may have taken longer, but saying that people would not have had smartphones is lending much to much credit on a single set of products.

BTW, I don't know where you are coming up with that MP3 crap, but other companies have been set up, CDDB for one, that allow 3rd party software to rip (EAC w/LAME codec being one of the best BTW) and put all the tags on. It has gotten easier, and the interface is something that Apple has always been one up on, but saomehow saying you had to rip one at a time, yadda yadda yadda is BS. I had an Archos player that did not require that LONG before the iPod was ever released.

AAMOF, the folder system was easier than the other crap.

As for full control, I agree that helps a lot, but it is the very thing that keeps most business and tech savvy users away. As soon as you know that you can get the same thing for 20% cheaper you start to question "why pay more for a one button mouse?"

But many do NOT question it, and the proprietary nature of the hardware is a concept not foreign to many (Sony's Memory Stick is a good example).

I think the main problem we have here is that most people have an all-or-none attitude when it comes to addressing many of the issues about design and Apple as a whole. I am not denying that many things were done, and in different venues, done right. But the problem is, especially in a product who was marketed and sold on emotion as much as actual product, it gets very difficult to rationally discuss it w/o people taking offense or attributing too much to something that WAS a true achievement, but was no telegraph.

 

[Ninjahedge]

anybody who is anybody has worked their ass off to get where they are.

Broad un-backed statement = FAIL.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

anybody who is anybody has worked their ass off to get where they are.

 

[Ns1]

outliers exist.

let me rephrase then:

any businessman who has made it has worked their ass off to get where they are.

 

[Capt Caveman]

I wonder if the Apple employees ever get mad because it wasn't Jobs staying up late at night drawing and testing these inventions and coming up with new ideas working 24/7. All he did was market them and approve or dis-approve new designs made by his employees, and he gets all the accolades. Any Apple employees out there? How do you really feel about all this?

They look at their Apple stock.....

 

[FuzzyDunlop]

If this thread was made 2 or even 5 years ago my answer would still have been a blaring

YES!

 

[Aikouka]

Why is it that whenever someone discusses Apple's accomplishments, they never go back further than a decade when Apple Computers has been around since the mid 70s?

 

[Fenixgoon]

honestly, i dont mind people running articles on Jobs/Apple for the next week or two. but i don't think there should be 5 articles on CNN.com's front page for it.

 

[HeXen]

Wow, you guys have a lot of emotion stirred up over this

 

[WaTaGuMp]

Did something happen at Apple?

 

[SlitheryDee]

Talk about apple all you want. When I get tired of it I'll read another thread.

 

[Fritzo]

Why is it that whenever someone discusses Apple's accomplishments, they never go back further than a decade when Apple Computers has been around since the mid 70s?

OK, how about in the early 80's when Steve Jobs visited Xerox and noticed an experimental computer sitting in storage that had a graphical interface. A conversation that essentially consisted of "Hey Xerox, are you doing anything with that?" "Nah, it's worthless, you can have it."

In 1984, the Macintosh was released. It had the first GUI and was the first computer to come with a mouse. It's the standard PC setup we use today.

Again, this is the difference between a visionary and an inventor.

 

[HeXen]

i'm sure most of us tech geeks are visionaries to various extents...we just don't have such an outlet that Jobs had. If the ipod..etc was never done and lets say I concieved it instead...i would have no way to get it into peoples hands. If i started a company, i wouldnt have much resources to market it.....thats the difference among visionaries. i'm sure many of us have thought of ways to do a product better or whatever..but its not very easy to make that kind of stuff happen. you have to be in a position to do so. Unfortunately many in such positions are too consumed with the politics of business, many arent even really tech geeks, new products are just slapped out at random in attempt to find a market rather than polish it and try to make a market for it.

Talk about apple all you want. When I get tired of it I'll read another thread.

they can't be too fed up with hearing about Apple cause were still hearing about Apple in this very thread...only makes sense

 

[rh71]

yesterday was the "did you know steve jobs was adopted?" day. Seriously everybody saw that grad speech yesterday.

 

[Aikouka]

OK, how about in the early 80's when Steve Jobs visited Xerox and noticed an experimental computer sitting in storage that had a graphical interface. A conversation that essentially consisted of "Hey Xerox, are you doing anything with that?" "Nah, it's worthless, you can have it."

In 1984, the Macintosh was released. It had the first GUI and was the first computer to come with a mouse. It's the standard PC setup we use today.

Again, this is the difference between a visionary and an inventor.

I'm not sure if you're for or against my complaint, because it sounds like you're debating visionary vs. inventor, but I'm not. I just know that the actions taken by Jobs, Wozniak, Gates, etc. back in the 80s and 90s really shaped a lot of what we do today.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Please change thread title to:

'Nerd Rage Found'

 

[HeXen]

I wonder if Balmer and Schmidt were giving each other high fives when they heard Jobs died?

 

[Fritzo]

I'm not sure if you're for or against my complaint, because it sounds like you're debating visionary vs. inventor, but I'm not. I just know that the actions taken by Jobs, Wozniak, Gates, etc. back in the 80s and 90s really shaped a lot of what we do today.

I'm not a fan of Apple products, but I am a fan of the innovation they inspired. Just trying to correct a lot of the "All Jobs did was steal someone else's idea and resell it" talk that goes around. If that's all that was required to become a success, Chinese gadgets at dollar stores would rule the world.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Who cares? I live an exit from the HQ and I pass by it everyday going to lab/school. Cupertino's been on twitter trends for a while now simply because of the shootings a few days ago and Steve Jobs. I welcome the publicity lol.

 

[homercles337]

And you claim they dont innovate? Steve Jobs stock portfolio would beg to differ.

Marketing is not innovation.

 

[jhansman]

If this thread was made 2 or even 5 years ago my answer would still have been a blaring

Amen, brother....

 

[Mike Gayner]

Why do you care so much OP? Here's how I deal with it: "Oh look, another article about Steve Jobs/Apple. I'm not going to click on that because I don't really have any interest in it". Then I move on with life.

 

[trollolo]

hey guys i need new speaks for my car what brand should i buy

 

[MotionMan]

So you started a thread...about Apple?

And in the wrong forum even though he, technically, had the choice of two "correct" forums.

MotionMan