Anyone catch those Anti-PETA ad's on TV?

PaperclipGod

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I was pretty suprised when i actually saw an anti-peta ad on tv tonight. Went to their website, and promptly gave them money. They're for personal responsibility and such things as genetically modified food, and against organizations like peta and greenpeace.

What a breath of fresh air.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: PaperclipGod
I was pretty suprised when i actually saw an anti-peta ad on tv tonight. Went to their website, and promptly gave them money. They're for personal responsibility and such things as genetically modified food, and against organizations like peta and greenpeace.

What a breath of fresh air.

Yes i did not know peta had been paying arsonist.....
 

phonemonkey

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What channel did you see the ad on?

I used to have a manager that was an ardent member of PETA (oddly enough, her Lexus SUV had leather), and would leave the magazines around the office for everyone to read.

I read one once, and couldn't believe an article that said that if you had any kind of meat craving one or more times per month, you were addicted to meat. I guess I'm addicted to meat then (and enjoying it!)
 

PaperclipGod

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Originally posted by: jester79
What channel did you see the ad on?

I used to have a manager that was an ardent member of PETA (oddly enough, her Lexus SUV had leather), and would leave the magazines around the office for everyone to read.

I read one once, and couldn't believe an article that said that if you had any kind of meat craving one or more times per month, you were addicted to meat. I guess I'm addicted to meat then (and enjoying it!)

Fox News, of course. Spare me the barbs, democrats. :D
 

alchemize

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While I think PETA has it's collective head up it's collective ass, I'm indifferent on Greenpeace as long as they don't break the law...

but these guys are way off base on the food thing. While they are freaking out about the legislative/lawsuit part, it's a long time coming that we recognize we are the fattest and most unhealthy people on the planet, and our children are getting worse!
 

SuperTool

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What a sucker.
Not a fan of PETA myself, but it doesn't mean I am going to donate money to a corporate lobbyist website.
 

daniel1113

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
What a sucker.
Not a fan of PETA myself, but it doesn't mean I am going to donate money to a corporate lobbyist website.

It's always those darn corporations...
 

burnedout

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There is/was one poster here with a link in his signature to what looks like the old PETA or "People Eating Tasty Animals" spoof site. Might be Nitemare, but I could be wrong. Funny stuff, at any rate.
 

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Because you can always trust corporations to serve your best interests... here, have a phen fen pill


the genetically modified food is an advancement enviromentalists shouldn't oppose, since it improves efficiency, thereby allowing more ppl to be fed with less land being used up. although it was weird when that modified corn killed several hundred thousand monarch butterflies and they couldn't figure out why
 

Miramonti

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The milk and beef commercials not working so big biz needs to come up with some BS called "The Center for Consumer Freedom?"

What a load of horse excretion.

As if they don't have enough politicians in their pockets and the atkins diet fad isn't good enough for them, they have to come up with some bs propaganda like this against PETA. :Disgust:
 

sMiLeYz

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Yeah, I'd like to get something in return when I pay money to corporation interests. No seriously. ;)
 

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the genetically modified food is an advancement enviromentalists shouldn't oppose, since it improves efficiency, thereby allowing more ppl to be fed with less land being used up. although it was weird when that modified corn killed several hundred thousand monarch butterflies and they couldn't figure out why

GM food is an advancement neither side should claim to have all the facts on (their simply has not been enough real research on the issue). One thing is for sure - GM crops cut down on the spectrum of pesticides used, but not necessarily on the total amount of pesticides used. For instance, you may only need one particularly virulant pesticide on a GM crop, whereas a few different ones would be used on the non-GM variety. However, the amount of that pesticide that is sprayed is considerable, sometimes more than the combined size of the spectrum of pesticides used on the non-GM variety. Furthermore the company that manufactures the GM crop often also manufacture the pesticide... Some of these GM pesticides are not nice and you really do want to make sure this stuff doesn't get into the water supply or your body.

The recent study in Britain found that wildlife within the GM field was severely impaired (all wildlife) as opposed to the non-GM field. This wasn't due to the crop itself but only the pesticide that killed everything that couldn't fly or run away quick enough.

Jury's out for me.

Cheers,

Andy
 

Miramonti

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Originally posted by: Fencer128
the genetically modified food is an advancement enviromentalists shouldn't oppose, since it improves efficiency, thereby allowing more ppl to be fed with less land being used up. although it was weird when that modified corn killed several hundred thousand monarch butterflies and they couldn't figure out why
GM food is an advancement neither side should claim to have all the facts on (their simply has not been enough real research on the issue). One thing is for sure - GM crops cut down on the spectrum of pesticides used, but not necessarily on the total amount of pesticides used. For instance, you may only need one particularly virulant pesticide on a GM crop, whereas a few different ones would be used on the non-GM variety. However, the amount of that pesticide that is sprayed is considerable, sometimes more than the combined size of the spectrum of pesticides used on the non-GM variety. Furthermore the company that manufactures the GM crop often also manufacture the pesticide... Some of these GM pesticides are not nice and you really do want to make sure this stuff doesn't get into the water supply or your body. The recent study in Britain found that wildlife within the GM field was severely impaired (all wildlife) as opposed to the non-GM field. This wasn't due to the crop itself but only the pesticide that killed everything that couldn't fly or run away quick enough. Jury's out for me. Cheers, Andy

good post, andy.
 

Bitek

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I don't think they'll need your money, I'm sure Monsanto, Conagra, ADM, big Pharma, the Beef council (and other meat advocates) and other interested (and presumably sponsoring) parties ensure plenty of money goes to this "organisation." Super-slick website, loads of content, and expensive TV ads? All that money is coming from somewhere...


No fan of PETA, but I'm not fooled by these people either.
 

PaperclipGod

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Originally posted by: Hafen
I don't think they'll need your money, I'm sure Monsanto, Conagra, ADM, big Pharma, the Beef council (and other meat advocates) and other interested (and presumably sponsoring) parties ensure plenty of money goes to this "organisation." Super-slick website, loads of content, and expensive TV ads? All that money is coming from somewhere...


No fan of PETA, but I'm not fooled by these people either.

I dont doubt it. Keep up the flow of money, Monsanto, youre doing good work. :D
 

gsaldivar

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"If we really believe that animals have the same right to be free from pain and suffering at our hands, then, of course we?re going to be, as a movement, blowing things up and smashing windows ? I think it?s a great way to bring about animal liberation ? I think it would be great if all of the fast-food outlets, slaughterhouses, these laboratories, and the banks that fund them exploded tomorrow. I think it's perfectly appropriate for people to take bricks and toss them through the windows ... Hallelujah to the people who are willing to do it."
? Bruce Friedrich, PETA?s vegan campaign coordinator, at the ?Animal Rights 2001? conference




wow... what a fvcked up perspective. I had no idea they were so radical... great website!
 

rjain

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They're for the ethical treatment of animals, but against the ethical treatment of humans. :)
 

Bitek

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Originally posted by: PaperclipGod
Originally posted by: Hafen
I don't think they'll need your money, I'm sure Monsanto, Conagra, ADM, big Pharma, the Beef council (and other meat advocates) and other interested (and presumably sponsoring) parties ensure plenty of money goes to this "organisation." Super-slick website, loads of content, and expensive TV ads? All that money is coming from somewhere...


No fan of PETA, but I'm not fooled by these people either.

I dont doubt it. Keep up the flow of money, Monsanto, youre doing good work. :D


Monsanto?! Are you talking about this Monsanto?Anniston Star, + W. Post + Cnn,

This company was convicted in a huge PCB pollution scandal, one of the largest environmental suits in American history. Among the various and disturbing crimes they were convicted on was outrage, which is defined as:

Quote: Under Alabama law, the rare claim of outrage typically requires conduct "so outrageous in character and extreme in degree as to go beyond all possible bounds of decency so as to be regarded as atrocious and utterly intolerable in civilized society."


Your website slams PETA for supposedly paying off some arsonist, but for 40 years Monsanto poisoned the town of Anniston, AL, leading high rates of cancer (inc some children dying of brain and lung cancer,) developmental defects and outright destruction of the local environment.

PETA may be a misguided band of fools, but Monsanto is just plain evil (and not just for this case....) AFAIK, PETA has never wontonly killed children and generations of adults. Don't let your hatred of them blind you.