Anyone buying SB, because they want to reduce their carbon footprint?

VirtualLarry

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Just curious, anyone buy SB for "green" reasons? And if so, are you still planning on overclocking?
 

RobDickinson

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Haha no. OK you may save what 20-40w or so but that doesnt add up to much at all vs prodiction of new cpu, board and ram etc.
 

mnewsham

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maybe if Mark and his 8 or 9 24/7 folding boxes went with SB. but unless you are using lots of old power hungry computers it wont make a huge difference.
 

SickBeast

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Don't the AMD CPUs still have lower idle power consumption? My Phenom II 905e consumes less than 5w when idle; I use K10stat to undervolt it.
 

Jovec

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Just curious, anyone buy SB for "green" reasons? And if so, are you still planning on overclocking?

Even beyond the "CPU cost vs Electricity savings" argument (it's never worth it), very rarely does this work out overall. It goes beyond idle/load power consumption. Raw materials and energy consumed during manufacturing. Waste by-products. Packaging materials. Fuel consumed during shipping to the store/warehouse. Fuel consumed shipping to the buyer, or driving to purchase. Repeat for new motherboard and possibly new RAM. Proper disposal of old CPU and mobo - if sold/reused, proper disposal of those pieces instead. Et cetera.
 

Markfw

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maybe if Mark and his 8 or 9 24/7 folding boxes went with SB. but unless you are using lots of old power hungry computers it wont make a huge difference.

I eliminated most of my old hardware (2 AMD 940 and 2 Q6600's and 14 9800 GT video cards) and added 2 I7 boxes, and 10 GTX4xx cards, and now my production is double, and my electric is down 20%.

I can't afford to replace the entire farm every year....
 

mnewsham

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I eliminated most of my old hardware (2 AMD 940 and 2 Q6600's and 14 9800 GT video cards) and added 2 I7 boxes, and 10 GTX4xx cards, and now my production is double, and my electric is down 20%.

I can't afford to replace the entire farm every year....

i know, just stating that if you were able to you would probably see a huge drop in electric as an OC'd i5-2600k@4.6 draws 120watts less under load then the i7-950@4.4 or something close to that.
 

Wreckage

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I have a netbook. Won;t do F@H

Well folding@home is not about being green. (unless there is a protein for that).

I'm saying that if someone was truly concerned about being green they would use a netbook. Sandybridge is not really green at all.
 

IntelUser2000

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If you'd want a high performance CPU but be "green" you'll be likely buying a laptop or making a mini-ITX system with ultra efficient PS. I guess there's people that do that for the latter, but its a niche.
 

jimhsu

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Hey, why not? That's how I justified paying $50 more for a 80 PLUS Gold power supply (Seasonic X-Series) over a merely "decent" power supply for my new build...

(Actually though if you go through the actual calculations assuming a 200W 24/7 hr load and 12c/KwH, it comes down to a wash after 2 years or so).
 

VirtualLarry

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Well folding@home is not about being green. (unless there is a protein for that).

I'm saying that if someone was truly concerned about being green they would use a netbook. Sandybridge is not really green at all.

I think that you are wrong. I thought someone did some testing, and found that for heavy loads, Nehalem was more efficient in terms of performance/watt than Atom was. Sure, Nehalem takes more power, but it gets finished so much faster, that overall, less power is used.
 

Markfw

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Well folding@home is not about being green. (unless there is a protein for that).

I'm saying that if someone was truly concerned about being green they would use a netbook. Sandybridge is not really green at all.

Well, for one thing, I am converting my PSU's to ALL 80 plus GOLD (>90%)
 

COPOHawk

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No...don't buy into anything to help save the planet. Do it to save yourself some $$$...but only if it makes sense given the capital expense.


If you want to reduce your carbon footprint it'd be better to just kill yourself.

There is actually some merit to this argument for any person...after all...we exhale CO2, thus contributing to the death of the planet...so all fanatics need to do is stop breathing ;) More air for the rest of us ;)