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Anybody try out the new Thermaltake Tower112 coolers?

the weight limit for AMD sockets is most likely calculated for when the mobo is in a vertical position. Since that is so tall and the bulk of the weight it near the top, that cooler will more than likely put 2x or maybe 3x the strain on the motherboard as a normal HSF would. This means that if it weighs 700g, it would be like having a 2kg hunk of copper of the size of a normal cooler.
 
I've picked one of these up, but I am going to do a case modification to help support the Thermaltake Tower112. Because of the weight and strain this cooler puts on the socket, it comes with an extra mounting bracket that you attach to the motherboard. This requires that you take the motherboard out because the bracket gets mounted to both the underside as well as the top of the motherboard, screwed into place, then you attach the Tower112 to it. From various reviews, people suggest that you be VERY careful when moving your case after installing this huge cooling unit since if you drop the case you can do serious damage.

With that in mind, it IS the most effective cooling solution available without going to water cooling at this time. So if you want to overclock without watercooling, I'd suggest doing a case mod and add in some removeable support bars that will hold the unit in place so you CAN move your computer without fear. I'll be posting some pictures in a week or two once I have the modifications done and the unit in place. I've also been toying with the idea of getting a new case for this project since I need to remove the motherboard just to add the Tower112 anyway. If I'm going to do that, I may as well get a new tower as well. Problem is that the silent cases may not be built in a way to make it easy to make the slots needed for the restraining bars.
 
Targon, until I see a review, I'll keep on believing that the best is still Coolermaster's, which should also put even more torque on the mobo 🙂.

Also, if you have a PSU with holes in the bottom, you could just have a loop of fishing line or thin nylon rope supporting it, without such massive work as making supports.
 
I've been giving some thought to this issue, also. I forgot precisely what the weight was for the Tower 112. The Zalman CNP-7000-Cu weighs in at 775 gm with the fan attached -- as a basis of comparison.

But most of the weight from the copper is close to the motherboard. For the DIY Tower 112, the remaining that exerts newton-meters farther away from the motherboard is mostly fins and heat-pipes.

So -- if it bothers you -- I suggest you rig some sort of metal bracket that holds the fans in place independently on one of either or both sides of the Tower 112 assembly. Something that bolts to the case -- rear panel or cross beam -- perhaps a light metal frame that hangs down from pop-rivets in the horizontal part of the frame above or just below the power supply.

Also, since there are so many screws and standoffs for the ATX motherboard near the processor, I'm not really sure that so much weight there is such a threat.

I guess the only way to find out -- is to try it.

Just be careful when you move the computer -- and watch out for those bumpy dirt roads if you bring it along to summer camp . . .
 
Originally posted by: BonzaiDuck
By the way -- anyone seen the ThermalTake "Fanless 103"?

I cannot find anyone who sells it.
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Not for sale yet. You're talking about the power supply, right?
 
Originally posted by: SinfulWeeper
anybody?
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I read several reviews on it and they didn't look good. The unit is, for the most part, mean looking but performance sucks. Plus, TT didn't bother to polish the base very well. A dead giveaway for a poor HS.
 
Why are these manufacturers going with the stupid heatpipe technology. I would bet that this heatsink would be alot less effective than the sp94. Just from common sense point, you would want to remove the heat from the cpu core as fast as possible, so to accomplish that,
you would want a THIN copper base with the fins welded on so the heat can travel faster to the cool area of the heatsink. Like you ever solder a wire, if you happen to hold a thin wire while you are soldering, the sucker gets hot in your hands real quick, but if you solder a thick wire, it takes alot longer. Thats why water blocks are so effective, the cooling effect of water is reallly close to the heat source.
Just my opinion
 
Originally posted by: Matt155
Why are these manufacturers going with the stupid heatpipe technology. I would bet that this heatsink would be alot less effective than the sp94. Just from common sense point, you would want to remove the heat from the cpu core as fast as possible, so to accomplish that,
you would want a THIN copper base with the fins welded on so the heat can travel faster to the cool area of the heatsink. Like you ever solder a wire, if you happen to hold a thin wire while you are soldering, the sucker gets hot in your hands real quick, but if you solder a thick wire, it takes alot longer. Thats why water blocks are so effective, the cooling effect of water is reallly close to the heat source.
Just my opinion
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Heatpipes are here. They are going to become the norm for performance cooling, because they offer a technology similar to water cooling, but in a smaller, cheaper package with no moving parts.

Oh, and the best three heatsinks out there right now use heatpipes, including the SP-94 you cite (Hyper6, SP-94, SP-97).
 
How is heatpipe technology similiar to water cooling? Last time I checked water was much better conductor of heat than air.
 
Originally posted by: Matt155
How is heatpipe technology similiar to water cooling? Last time I checked water was much better conductor of heat than air.
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Exactly. heatpipes have liquid in a low pressure environment, so it boils at lower temps, between 30C and 40C, IIRC. It evaporates, goes up the pipe, and condenses on the way. With most of it evaporated, it should cause enough pressure to exist to condense some of it (more pressure, lower evaporation temp) and send it back down. Also, if cooled well, the top will be cool enough at points to condense it anyway.
Much like water moving out to a radiator before going to air, a heatpipe moves the heat through that little tube to a point farther away on the heatsink, distances which can't be used effectively just by conudcting heat from the heat source.
 
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