Anybody tried those SilverStar/XENON/PIAA headlights? Any better alternatives?

DaFOBulous1

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Thinking of getting a pair of SilverStars by Sylvania. I drive through a lot of backroads around my school so I need something a bit brighter than the usually ones.

Also, I would like the HID-look and seen some "Xenon" EBay ones but I don't know how they compare to the SilverStar as they at least are street legal but the young guy in me wants the coolest looking ones too without forking too much cash. Also heard Sylvania has those cool blue lights but again dont want to sacrifice the blue for brightness either.
 

joe360

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I've tried 2 pairs of PIAA's and personally I don't think they're worth it. Xenon are good bang for the buck, blue very bright headlights. If you drive through alot of the backroads, go for off-roads high wattage headlights, they are illegal, but most of the time the cops won't pull you over just for your headlights. Or at lease they never pulled me over :) .
 

Caesar

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Silverstars are good but they don't last that long. I bought a pair and they lasted a little over 3 months. Now I am not replacing $38 bulbs every 3 months.
 

Ryan

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Slyvania Silverstars SUCK - anyone who says they're good has fallen for the marketing hype.

If you want good bulbs, see this writeup: http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/blue/good/good.html

OK, So These Extra-White Bulbs Aren't The Best Choice For Maximizing My Headlamps' Performance. What Should I Get Instead?

For those who want the best possible performance from their headlamps and are more concerned with their ability to see rather than the appearance of their headlamps, the major bulb companies offer optimized bulbs without the light-stealing blue glass. Narva RangePower+50 and RangePower+30, GE Night Hawk, and Philips Vision Plus, and Osram Silver Star are the ones to get.

Wait a Minute, Earlier You Said Silver Star Bulbs Have Blue Glass!

It's a name game: Osram, the well-established German lampmaker, sells a line of automotive bulbs they call "Silver Star". These are Osram's top-of-the-range headlamp bulbs, equivalent to Narva RangePower+50, GE Night Hawk, Philips VisionPlus, and Tungsram Megalight Premium. They produce the maximum legal amount of light while staying within legal power consumption limits. They have colorless clear glass.

Osram bought the well-established American lampmaker Sylvania in the early 1990s, so Osram is now Sylvania's parent company. Sylvania also sells a line of automotive bulbs they call "Silver Star", but it's not the same product. The Sylvania Silver Stars have blue glass. Light output is of legal levels, but as with all blue-filtered bulbs, you do not get more light from them. The Sylvania SilverStar bulbs have a very short lifetime, because the filament is overdriven to get a legal amount of light despite the blue glass.

To get the best possible seeing performance at night, don't choose extra-white bulbs.
 

DaFOBulous1

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OK...so are their any particular models or brands to get that most similar to the HIDs other than the Osram since I want to make sure they are DOT approved as well? I see PIAA, KYO, Sportsline

Like I said, I want it because to make my car look a bit more cooler... :) but I want it brighter for night driving. A bit of blue wouldn't hurt either.

Something like this...?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EURODEZI...QcategoryZ36476QQitemZ8034529924QQrdZ1
 

Ryan

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The best are listed above:

Narva RangePower+50 and RangePower+30
GE Night Hawk
Philips Vision Plus
Osram Silver Star
 

teddyv

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Why not just convert to HID? You can find conversion kits for many cars for under $200 these days.
 

Slickone

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Originally posted by: Ryan
The best are listed above:

Narva RangePower+50 and RangePower+30
GE Night Hawk
Philips Vision Plus
Osram Silver Star
Above? Guess you mean best at the top? The Night Hawks are that good?

Originally posted by: Ryan
Slyvania Silverstars SUCK - anyone who says they're good has fallen for the marketing hype.
Seconded. Horrible bulb.


 

Colt45

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its all gimmicky. if you want more light you need more power, or a more efficent bulb (hid).

blue filters actually give you less light on the road.
 

DaFOBulous1

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Going to take a look at them...any places to get them at a good price? None for my car at EBay.. :(
 

Viper GTS

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I have Osram Silverstars in my Impreza, they're great.

Also check the voltage being delivered to your lights, you may gain more from a wiring harness than the bulb replacement. Of course the best thing is to just do both.

:)

Viper GTS
 

DaFOBulous1

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Hey Viper...where did u get your Osram Silverstars at?

They definitely look like the best alternatives to HID right now.
 

Kyle

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I got the bright white silver star bulbs (not blue at all) cause they were deeply discounted at a GI Joes sale-
They are MUCH brighter and whiter than what I had- almost too bright, even w/out the brights on people occasionaly flash their brights at me- so I flash my brights =)
I'm not saying there arnt better ones out there for the money (I dont know, havent tried any others) but they are a big improvment from what I had.
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: Kyle
I got the bright white silver star bulbs (not blue at all) cause they were deeply discounted at a GI Joes sale-
They are MUCH brighter and whiter than what I had- almost too bright, even w/out the brights on people occasionaly flash their brights at me- so I flash my brights =)
I'm not saying there arnt better ones out there for the money (I dont know, havent tried any others) but they are a big improvment from what I had.

If they're Sylvania, they're not any brighter. Tell me you got the Osrams.
 

Kyle

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Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: Kyle
I got the bright white silver star bulbs (not blue at all) cause they were deeply discounted at a GI Joes sale-
They are MUCH brighter and whiter than what I had- almost too bright, even w/out the brights on people occasionaly flash their brights at me- so I flash my brights =)
I'm not saying there arnt better ones out there for the money (I dont know, havent tried any others) but they are a big improvment from what I had.

If they're Sylvania, they're not any brighter. Tell me you got the Osrams.

Not sure- I googled Sylvania and it went to "OSRAM SYLVANIA"
so...I guess I dont understand how it could be one or the other
but to answer your question, I dont know which I got


*EDIT*
NM, I see they are different parts of the same company or somthin, but I see how there are different products
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: Kyle
Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: Kyle
I got the bright white silver star bulbs (not blue at all) cause they were deeply discounted at a GI Joes sale-
They are MUCH brighter and whiter than what I had- almost too bright, even w/out the brights on people occasionaly flash their brights at me- so I flash my brights =)
I'm not saying there arnt better ones out there for the money (I dont know, havent tried any others) but they are a big improvment from what I had.

If they're Sylvania, they're not any brighter. Tell me you got the Osrams.

Not sure- I googled Sylvania and it went to "OSRAM SYLVANIA"
so...I guess I dont understand how it could be one or the other
but to answer your question, I dont know which I got

Probably the Sylvanias. You got cheated - they're not brighter, and they won't last as long a regular bulbs.
 

Kyle

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Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: Kyle
Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: Kyle
I got the bright white silver star bulbs (not blue at all) cause they were deeply discounted at a GI Joes sale-
They are MUCH brighter and whiter than what I had- almost too bright, even w/out the brights on people occasionaly flash their brights at me- so I flash my brights =)
I'm not saying there arnt better ones out there for the money (I dont know, havent tried any others) but they are a big improvment from what I had.

If they're Sylvania, they're not any brighter. Tell me you got the Osrams.

Not sure- I googled Sylvania and it went to "OSRAM SYLVANIA"
so...I guess I dont understand how it could be one or the other
but to answer your question, I dont know which I got

Probably the Sylvanias. You got cheated - they're not brighter, and they won't last as long a regular bulbs.

Trust me- they are brighter. Not placebo, had many people comment on them...very noticable difference and much whiter
 

Slickone

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Originally posted by: Kyle
Trust me- they are brighter. Not placebo, had many people comment on them...very noticable difference and much whiter
People probably brightlight you because these days they see the blue tint and automatically think their brighter, because of all the illegal hack job blinding HID's on the road now (also because OEM HID's are brighter).

And they're not really brighter since they bulb housing has a blue tint put in/on it. HID's blueish light is from the light's cool wavelength, not any tinting the mfg put in the housing.
 

OS

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i had silverstars for maybe 2 months before they burned out.

wally sells sylvania xtravisions for $18 a set. Near OE rated life and supposedly a little brighter.
 

DaWhim

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had the silverstars burned out in a little of a year. now I have the xtravision. IIRC, blub life for silverstar is like 150-200 hours, but xtravision is 3-4x that.
 

jlee

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I really liked my Silverstars -- didn't buy them because of the hype..I bought them because my $20 bulbs kept blowing. I think they lasted a year or so.

I can definitely tell a difference between OEM halogen & SilverStars. If there's something brighter, I'd love to get it.

I never noticed a blue tint to my lights, either (not with Silverstars, anyway)...but I definitely noticed a yellow-ish from OEM bulbs.
 

RayH

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Get the Philips Vision Plus. They're 1/2 to 1/3 the price of the Silver Stars and do not have the slight blue tint of the Sylvanias. You'll need to go to higher wattage bulbs and supporting wiring for anything brighter. If you've got an older car, a good headlight polish will also do wonders for your lighting.
 

Slvrtg277

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This is copied from a forum I peruse often. It has good info. Just ignore the Integra-specific info and check the info for your own car as far as wattage/etc. The bottom of the article mentions the Silverstar debacle.



By default, the 3rd generation Integra uses the 55w 9006 headlamp bulb for the low beams. However, there are many aftermarket over-wattage bulbs available in 85w and 100w outputs. I highly discourage you from buying these bulbs. In addition to being shoddy-quality, they draw more current than the standard 9006 bulb. While this MAY result in more light being thrown onto the road (more on that later), you risk damaging many things.



The first thing you risk damaging is the expensive headlamp reflector assembly. The extra heat generated by the bulbs can melt the housing or damage the reflective coatings. In severe cases, I have seen the housing begin to smoke. Since the high beams and low beams are all part of one assembly, you're stuck paying $500+ on a new headlamp assembly. Is it really worth the risk? (for that price you could've bought HIDs)



Another thing you risk damaging is the headlamp wiring harness. The bulbs must draw more current in order to produce more light. This again generates more heat and can melt the wires and insulation. The headlamp wiring harness is listed at roughly $100 and is very difficult to install.



Finally, you risk damaging the alternator. Since you are drawing an extra 30 or more watts per bulb, the alternator is forced to work harder to supply the current. The alternator can only produce so much current. If it cannot produce the current, it may be forced to draw power from your battery (also bad). Over time, the alternator will wear itself out at a rate much faster than normal. A new alternator runs you roughly $300.



So it should be fairly obvious that running over-wattage bulbs is a bad idea. You could potentially be nearly $1000 in the hole in parts alone, all because you wanted headlamp bulbs that promised more light output.



Blue bulbs



A hot item is the ?HID look-a-like? bulb. They are very easy to spot on the street ? they throw off a characteristic blue or purple light. (I am now seeing green as well) In auto parts stores, they are easy to spot as well ? the bulb has blue or purple glass. These are an enormous waste of money for numerous reasons.



The first, and most important, is how they do NOT throw much useable light on the road. Basic physics (and common sense) dictates that anything you place between the light source (filament) and the illuminated surface (the road) will cut down on the amount the light transmitted, which we call lumens. Think about it: when you put on sunglasses, less light gets to your eyes. Apply this concept to the blue bulbs. The bulbs have a blue coating on the glass. Hence, you are not transmitting 100% of the light. Would you drive at night with sunglasses on?



Your night vision will be terrible. In conditions such as fog, snow, and rain, where your vision is already lessened, these bulbs will only make things worse.



"HID look-a-like" bulbs are usually very low quality. They are usually manufactured in Korea and low-quality components are used. You can expect a significantly shorter bulb life. I have also seen the bulbs explode, which ruins your headlamp assembly.



But my ____ bulbs look like those HID bulbs in those luxury cars; they must be as good.



While your lights may have the same characteristic blue or purple glow common to HID assemblies, there is no comparison. HID stands for high intensity discharge and is based upon an entirely different principle. Standard halogen headlamp bulbs use filaments whereas HID systems use an arc inside a chamber of xenon gas. HID lights are much more efficient than a standard halogen bulb, but are also much more complicated and therefore more costly. Lifespan of HID systems is well over 2500 hours.



HID lights throw out roughly THREE times as many lumens as even the brightest headlamp bulbs. Even the best halogen bulbs put out nearly 1200 lumens. The average HID assembly puts out over 3200 lumens. More lumens = more illumination.Remember: LUMENS IS KING.



Another benefit HID lights offer is a whiter light. The color of light is rated in terms of Kelvins (no relation to the temperature unit Kelvin). The higher the Kelvin rating, the more towards sunlight the color is. Common HID color temperatures are 3800K and 4100K. The theory behind using whiter light is that it more closely simulates sunlight.But again, remember that LUMENS determine how much you see, not color temperature.



Many of the "HID look-a-like" bulbs advertise color temperatures of 4300, 5000, even 6000K and up. The problem lies in that as your color temperature increases, less useable light is put out. Anything over 3800 is (for the most part) useless. The eyes are the most sensitive to yellows and greens and the least sensitive to blues and purples. If the bulb you are considering uses statements like "4500K!" or "SIMULATES HID!", stay away. You are throwing your money away. I have a lot of experience in this ? I have thrown away hundreds of dollars on crappy headlamp bulbs.



Many people swear that their fake-HID bulbs illuminate the road better. This is false. The bulb manufacturer has deceived you into thinking that they work better. Unplug your fake-HID bulb and replace it with the basic halogen bulbs that you had in before. I guarantee you that the inexpensive halogen bulbs will illuminate the ground better.



Update: info on the CATZ Zeta system



I have recently learned about the new CATZ Zeta system that promises to be "poor-man's HID". I did some research and found that this is really just junk.



The Zeta system uses special high-wattage bulbs hooked up to an electronic system that provides more than the standard current to these new bulbs. In theory, this should work better than a standard headlamp setup. However, like I've said before, these higher-wattage bulbs produce much more heat than the 9006 bulbs. More heat will lead to a melted headlamp assembly.



The bulbs it uses are also the typical cheap blue or purple glass that mimics the color of HID. As I've stated above, the blue color does not light up the road any better than a standard halogen bulb (it in fact is less effective).



In short, the CATZ Zeta system is an enormous ripoff. You're giving them a substantial sum of money to melt your headlamp housings. Stay away from this.



Update: info on 'quartz bulbs'



I have started to see these so-called 'quartz' bulbs on eBay. The sellers claim they burn hotter and brighter in a smaller size because quartz glass is used. They may indeed burn brighter, I am not sure (they are a deep-blue color, much like other cheap headlamp bulbs).



Stay away from these! As I stated above, if it is burning hotter, you risk damage to the headlamp assembly and/or the wiring harnesses.



Although the sellers claim that the smaller size (30% smaller) is better, this is indeed not true. A car's headlamp assembly, particularly a complicated one like the Integra's projector headlamps, is designed for the filament to be at one particular location for optimum light focusing and spread. By moving the filament, you actually decrease the efficiency of the headlamps and cause light to be thrown in places it should not be -- such as an oncoming driver's eyes.



Again, these quartz bulbs are nothing but trouble. Stick with a standard bulb.

Just remember this: white light does not equal better illumination.

Also, do not pay any attention to things like ?DOT APPROVED?. The Department of Transportation does not regulate headlamp bulbs, the SAE does. In fact, most of these bulbs are illegal.

Some brands to avoid are PIAA, Nokya, Matrix, Eurolite, StreetGlow, and Hiper.

A quick bit of info on PIAA bulbs (and for that matter, other cheap ?blue bulbs?). PIAA likes to print ?55w = 85w? on their packages. Sorry folks, but their bulb cannot take 55w of energy and convert it to 85w. The 55w bulb puts out 55w of light. PIAAs are severely overrated and overpriced.

What about ion crystal bulbs (yellow glow)?

These are a hot item in Europe. Like I stated earlier, the eyes are more sensitive to yellows and greens. It would therefore make sense to have a light that puts out a bright yellow light.

Studies have shown that these bulbs offer no advantage over a standard halogen bulb. Some companies claimed that since yellow light is more energetic (due to the wavelength), it can penetrate fog and rain better. This is false. The yellow color does not affect how it penetrates fog.

These bulbs are usually called ion crystal. PIAA manufactures bulbs like these. Sylvania used to manufacture them under the name WeatherVision, but they have been discontinued.

In short, these are not worth the money.

Choosing the right bulbs

Through personal experience, I have assembled a list of good bulbs. These bulbs should offer excellent illumination and long life.

Sylvania XtraVision ($12)
-Found in a black and purple package. A basic halogen bulb. These run a few dollars more than the basic halogen bulb that Sylvania makes but they are much more effective. It claims to have an optimized filament that throws 20% more light on the road. I can?t confirm that it is 20% more light, but they certainly do illuminate better than the basic halogen bulb. Color temperature of about 3200K. Philips has a bulb that is very similar called VisionPlus that is also an excellent choice.

THE XTRAVISION IS YOUR BEST CHOICE. IT PUTS OUT THE MOST USABLE LIGHT.

Sylvania CoolBlue ($15)
-Found in a light blue package. Earlier, I stated that bulbs with blue coatings are a thing to avoid. However, the CoolBlues have a very faint blue coloring that does not limit light output significantly. They are still considered to have legal light output. These put out a light that is slightly whiter than a standard halogen bulb. Color temperature of about 3500K. Philips has a similar bulb called BlueVision.

Sylvania Silverstar ($25)
-Found in a medium blue package. Rather pricey at $25/bulb or $40/pair. Sylvania claims to use a redesigned filament and glass that results in a higher light transmittance. I can vouch for their claim. The light is definitely more white and usable than most other bulbs on the market. The benefit the Silverstars offer is that they throw out a lot of usable light for a halogen bulb. Color temperature of about 4000K.

Update: Osram Silverstar vs Sylvania Silverstar

It has been brought to my attention that the Sylvania Silverstars sold in the United States are not true Silverstars. The real Silverstar headlamp bulbs are sold by Sylvania's parent company Osram. They are a different design that is far more efficient. Unfortunately, the Osram Silverstar is only available in H1, H4, and H7 sizes.

The reason the Sylvania (US-market) Silverstars throw out so much light is because they use an overdriven filament. Many complain about the short lifespan of these bulbs...this is precisely why.

Special thanks to Kelly for discovering this!

HID retrofitting

Please read my HID Lighting 101 article.

Conclusion

To conclude with, not all headlamp bulbs are created equal. A poor choice in headlamp bulbs can result in damage to your car and reduced vision. You will also waste a lot of money on finding good bulbs that do not wear out in a month.