Anybody read Nader's new book?

johnjohn320

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At least I think it's new...I hadn't seen it until recently: "Crashing the Party". What do you think of it?
 

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haven't but want to. just finished stupid white men by michael moore, i recommend it!
 

johnjohn320

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Sigh. I knew it would turn into this, people have to start an argument always...
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jemcam

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No, it's just that Nader's ideas don't appeal to people who have their heads in the real world. Nader has done little good for this country IMHO. His left wing ideas are only popular with liberals.

So, can you give us your reviews on Al Gore's latest books?
 

johnjohn320

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Originally posted by: jemcam
No, it's just that Nader's ideas don't appeal to people who have their heads in the real world. Nader has done little good for this country IMHO. His left wing ideas are only popular with liberals.

So, can you give us your reviews on Al Gore's latest books?

By the "having your head in the real world" you're basically saying to succumb to many thing and just accept the way things are. I understand that sometimes you need to be realistic, but with politics, you should follow whatever you think is right, not "likely to happen."
 

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He's too intelligent for me to understand. Once you get past beer I'm kinda lost.
 

Daovonnaex

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Nader is a man of integrity and conviction. Unfortunately, he subscribes to terribly stupid principles and continues to espouse his foolish ideas. Despite this, I still respect the man.
 

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Originally posted by: Daovonnaex
Nader is a man of integrity and conviction. Unfortunately, he subscribes to terribly stupid principles and continues to espouse his foolish ideas. Despite this, I still respect the man.

Which principles are these?
 

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I don't know a damn thing about nader. Anyone care to specify a few of his key positions, philosaphy, etc.. Just the things that cometo mind first
 

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Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
I have to admit, I thought the Corvair was kinda cool in it's day.


The Chevrolet Corvair was a car way ahead of it's time! In 1967 the twin turbo Monza was keeping up with the Corvette at the track and beating nearly every European high dollar car in existence.

Nader fabricated his evidence in Unsafe at any Speed and was partially funded by Ford.

Nader is a millionaire because of his investments in the very companies he complains loudest about. He defines the word hypocrite!
 

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Having lived thru the Nader/Chevrolet Corvair farce I do not have any interest in Nader's ramblings about anything.
 

Moonbeam

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You can be sure that millions and millions of dollars have been spent to ruin Nader's reputation. Free speech is all fine and dandy till people start listening. As soon as that happens they are destroyed one way or the other.
 

Daovonnaex

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Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Originally posted by: Daovonnaex
Nader is a man of integrity and conviction. Unfortunately, he subscribes to terribly stupid principles and continues to espouse his foolish ideas. Despite this, I still respect the man.

Which principles are these?
Anti-capitalist ones.
 

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I don't understand why the Chevy Corvair incident was a farce. If there is some comprehensive evidence to refute Nader's research I would like to see it.
 

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Originally posted by: yellowperil
I don't understand why the Chevy Corvair incident was a farce. If there is some comprehensive evidence to refute Nader's research I would like to see it.
None to refute it. However, there was nothing really that bad about the Corvair. It was no more dangerous than a Volkswagen Beetle or a Porsche 911.

 

yellowperil

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Originally posted by: Daovonnaex
Originally posted by: yellowperil
I don't understand why the Chevy Corvair incident was a farce. If there is some comprehensive evidence to refute Nader's research I would like to see it.
None to refute it. However, there was nothing really that bad about the Corvair. It was no more dangerous than a Volkswagen Beetle or a Porsche 911.

I never read Unsafe at any Speed but as I understand it there was a pretty serious design defect with the wheels buckling underneath the car, and Chevy refused to acknowledge it. I don't know if it was as egregious as the Ford Pinto defect but from what I read it seemed pretty bad.