Anybody not like dogs?

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Glitchny

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What your saying is exactly what I said. You won't see it coming. Your dog's perceived demeanor may not even factor into it. Maybe nothing will happen, but if something does, you'll just be another confused guy saying "but he was always so sweet...". You'll probably tell the same story then too, about how everyone was able to pet it while you were walking it. It means nothing.

True a dog could snap, but then so could any random person you see on the street. Do you live in constant apprehension and mistrust of every other human being you interact with?

Considering how many dogs have been owned as pets and the relatively small percentage that have been involved in attacks, it seems like a safe decision to own a dog.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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What your saying is exactly what I said. You won't see it coming. Your dog's perceived demeanor may not even factor into it. Maybe nothing will happen, but if something does, you'll just be another confused guy saying "but he was always so sweet...". You'll probably tell the same story then too, about how everyone was able to pet it while you were walking it. It means nothing.

It would seem you like many people believe dogs are commonly capable of totally random behavior. As a former breeder and long time owner of many different breeds, I can tell you that dogs always give indicators if you can read their body language. They quite literally wear their hearts on their sleeve. While you and a good many pet owners cannot read this body language, it does exist.
 

sixone

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You are applying a human perspective of well being to something that isn't human. Yes they are fed regularly and will probably live longer, but for all we know that creature is absolutely miserable being caged up and not being able to run wild, hunt, mate, etc.

No, you're the one applying a human perspective. They don't run wild, hunt, mate, etc., because they enjoy doing so. They do those things because instinct tells them to.

Responsible pet owners give their pets the means to act on those instincts, or they spay/neuter so that those instincts are not a problem. And they pay attention to their animals, so that they'll know when the animal has a need that isn't being met.
 

SlitheryDee

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True a dog could snap, but then so could any random person you see on the street. Do you live in constant apprehension and mistrust of every other human being you interact with?

Considering how many dogs have been owned as pets and the relatively small percentage that have been involved in attacks, it seems like a safe decision to own a dog.

A person can at least communicate what their exact grievance is. Even in a situation where there is no grievance, and they're just after money or something I know where I stand. Once it reaches the point of violence with a dog, it's possible to not know what caused it or how to resolve it. You're dead or injured and the dog is put down before you even know what the problem was. Im also pretty wary of other humans though, they are only somewhat more predictable than dogs in the end. It is pretty safe to own a dog, but it's still safer to not own one. I'd be willing to own a small to medium sized dog I think.
 

Capt Caveman

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What you're saying is exactly what I said. You won't see it coming. Your dog's perceived demeanor may not even factor into it. Maybe nothing will happen, but if something does, you'll just be another confused guy saying "but he was always so sweet...". You'll probably tell the same story then too, about how everyone was able to pet it while you were walking it. It means nothing.

Again, you watch too much tv news. The most friendly and gentle dogs I've known and met have been the large/giant dogs(Great Danes, Irish Wolfhounds, Saint Bernards, etc).

And why would I tell that story when none of my dogs over the last 15 years has exhibited any aggression towards a human?

I bet if you knew someone that needed the aid of a service animal(dog), you'd be scared of that dog too wouldn't you? B/c you never know when it would snap.

I'd be more concerned about another human causing injury before I'd worry about a dog. Heck, I always have my gf take my Ridgeback with her if she goes running at night. More concerned about a human hurting her than a dog.
 
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MagnusTheBrewer

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A person can at least communicate what their exact grievance is. Even in a situation where there is no grievance, and they're just after money or something I know where I stand. Once it reaches the point of violence with a dog, it's possible to not know what caused it or how to resolve it. You're dead or injured and the dog is put down before you even know what the problem was. Im also pretty wary of other humans though, they are only somewhat more predictable than dogs in the end. It is pretty safe to own a dog, but it's still safer to not own one. I'd be willing to own a small to medium sized dog I think.

The answer in both situations is to become more aware. Too many people retreat into themselves unwilling to interact with the world around them except through a computer keyboard which they constantly wipe with alcohol swabs.

But that's another rant. Not everyone is cut out to own pets.
 

SlitheryDee

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Again, you watch too much tv news. The most friendly and gentle dogs I've known and met have been the large/giant dogs(Great Danes, Irish Wolfhounds, Saint Bernards, etc).

And why would I tell that story when none of my dogs over the last 15 years has exhibited any aggression towards a human?

I bet if you knew someone that needed the aid of a service animal(dog), you'd be scared of that dog too wouldn't you? B/c you never know when it would snap.

I'd be more concerned about another human causing injury before I'd worry about a dog.

My concern with large dogs isn't that they are ill tempered, but that if they decide to attack you stand a greater chance of harm. I agree that the larger breeds are often quite agreeable as pets, but they also account for the majority of injuries due to pet attacks. It's just because they are capable of inflicting more damage if they attack.

You would tell that story because it applies to your 110lb ridgeback. If it is some other large dog somewhere down the line, then you'll tell a story about that dog. Maybe you'll never tell such a story in the situation I'm describing.

I would be wary of a service dog I suppose, because they are usually large dogs. I'm not walking around constantly terrified of dogs though. I just don't quite trust them. I guess it's not completely logical in the end.
 

drebo

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I fucking hate dogs. But more than dogs, I hate irresponsible dog owners.

You know, the ones that let them run around without leashes on, the ones that let them shit on other peoples' yards, the ones that neglect them in their back yards, the ones that don't pay attention when their neglected dogs are barking... You know, 90% of all dog owners.

Oh, and the stupid Mexican dog owners who spend more on food for their dogs than they do on food for their children.
 

IGemini

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My propensity to like dogs is just the same as it would be for other people, cats, birds, etc: based on personality. I can think of plenty of examples of each I've liked or not for varying reasons.

That said, dog barks are grating. I live within earshot of at least five dogs that don't know how to shut up when someone/thing else walks by. The three right across the road just discovered that they live next to each other and they all make a racket when outdoors at the same time. I value my quiet...I don't care to hear all that through headphones and closed windows. I maintain that if people could understand what dogs were saying...fewer would want them as pets.
 

Zeze

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i dislike dogs in general and like certain dogs in particular. but i swear to god, i will never walk around behind anything and pick up it's shit ever again...one weekend dog sitting for a friend was enough. what ridiculously misguided behaviour. if i asked you to clean up my shit for me because i like to shit wherever i please, would you do it? no? then why would you do it for an animal?

You'd better pick up my shit if I'm forced to shit & piss only twice a day, and NEVER where I want as I'm originally designed.
 

datalink7

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Bad dogs are mostly,though not always, the result of poor owners.

My dog is awesome and I wouldn't want to be without him. I just came home from Afghanistan and he was at the top of my list of what I was looking forward to (though I am single). Here is a picture of me taking a nap right after I got back:

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Note that he hates getting on the furniture and never sleeps in the bed. But I guess he missed me so much that he made an exception (he'd never been away from me before this deployment).
 

UnklSnappy

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I love dogs.
And will always choose to spend my time in the company of dogs over people if given the choice.
 

Murloc

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I like my family dog, I don't like the dogs of other people if they're uneducated and drool on my pants, I don't like dogs who bark.
I would not get a dog personally.
 

uclaLabrat

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LOL. My 110lb Ridgeback is the biggest whimp. My mini-dachshund(the one in my avatar) would be a bigger concern than my big dog. Walking them today, my big dog must have been petted by about twenty people, even going up to children to get a pet on the head.

Obviously, you've never been around a lot of dogs and watch the news too much. Too funny.
My 110 lb ridgeback has bayed several sketchy people on the street. Straight up growled, took 2 bounces towards them, stopped, and barked. That's part of the charm.
 

Triumph

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You'd better pick up my shit if I'm forced to shit & piss only twice a day, and NEVER where I want as I'm originally designed.

If only nature could design some sort of animal that could be trained to shit and piss whenever it wanted, but in a specific spot that would remain clean and nearly transparent to the owner. Hmmm, how about it nature?
 

lxskllr

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If only nature could design some sort of animal that could be trained to shit and piss whenever it wanted, but in a specific spot that would remain clean and nearly transparent to the owner. Hmmm, how about it nature?

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Beev

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I like small, docile dogs, but I can't stand yappy little shits and big dogs do nothing for me. I don't actively hate them, but I'd heavily prefer them to not be around.
 

alent1234

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You are applying a human perspective of well being to something that isn't human. Yes they are fed regularly and will probably live longer, but for all we know that creature is absolutely miserable being caged up and not being able to run wild, hunt, mate, etc.

i know someone with a few dogs and he says his dogs will not go outside in the rain. most dogs are whimps compared to wolves

50 years ago there was a russian guy who took 1000 wild foxes and bred them as an experiment. after breeding only those with the lowest levels of adrenaline within 10 generations he got an animal that looked like a dog and acted like a domesticated dog
 

JulesMaximus

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I like dogs but I don't like owning dogs. We had to put our 12 year old dog to sleep a little over a year ago and I vowed no more dogs once she was gone. The puppy phase, the vet bills, the food bills, the constant need for attention. Too much work.

I much prefer cats.
 

Zargon

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If only nature could design some sort of animal that could be trained to shit and piss whenever it wanted, but in a specific spot that would remain clean and nearly transparent to the owner. Hmmm, how about it nature?

you could probably train a decent dog to do that

my dog is not terribly well trained and impulsive, mostly due to meds he is on for epilepsy

but he rings a bell when he wants to go outside, when I open my arms in a hugging motion towards him he drops his ears, wags his tale and nuzzles my legs till I knee when he gets in my lap

he also knows how to pry boards off the fence in the backyard :\
 
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