Anybody know much about the "ECA Stack" ?

[kyzen]

Curious about any overly unhealthy side-effects from taking this for weightloss. Also wondering what kind of activities should accompany it - exercise? dieting? etc.

Any info would be greatly appreciated. I'm still trying to make up my mind on the subject; a friend had some crazy success with the stack a few summers ago, but is presently out of the country, so I can't ask him

 

[JRock]

ECA worked well for me. I had better results cycling it with clenbuterol.

2 Weeks on ECA then 2 Weeks on Clen.

 

[shortspanishguy]

Originally posted by: JRock
ECA worked well for me. I had better results cycling it with clenbuterol.

2 Weeks on ECA then 2 Weeks on Clen.

Clen is not legal here but it is effective.

 

[Feldenak]

Prepared to be bombarded by "Eat less and exercise more you lazy sack of sh!t" crowd.

 

[MX2]

Never heard of it. That cant that be good for your body, heart, blood pressure etc.

 

[KoolAidKid]

Originally posted by: JRock
ECA worked well for me. I had better results cycling it with clenbuterol.

2 Weeks on ECA then 2 Weeks on Clen.

Did you feel jittery on either of these?

 

[JRock]

Originally posted by: shortspanishguy

Originally posted by: JRock
ECA worked well for me. I had better results cycling it with clenbuterol.

2 Weeks on ECA then 2 Weeks on Clen.

Clen is not legal here but it is effective.

No Comment

 

[JRock]

Originally posted by: KoolAidKid

Originally posted by: JRock
ECA worked well for me. I had better results cycling it with clenbuterol.

2 Weeks on ECA then 2 Weeks on Clen.

Did you feel jittery on either of these?

Initially YES on both. After the jitters of the Clen you get bad muscle craps if you don't drink a lot of water and take potassium in fairly large doses.

 

[shortspanishguy]

Ephedra gets a bad name because of the people who do not know how to use it. Abuse of mostly anything will yield negative results. Ephedra can have some undesireable effects. You can use google to find them out. Im not even gonna get into clenbuterol because most people here dont even know what it is. And if you are gonna use clen it is most effective when it is combined wth T3.

 

[kyzen]

I've cut soda from my diet almost completely (from 2-4 cans a day to 1-3 cans a week, only at company lunches/meetings where it's that or nasty tasting tap water). Haven't had fast food since November. And for the last 3 weeks I've been eating mostly salad, with some fish and white meat.

I get 5-8 hours of exercise in over 4-6 days a week. I'm just looking for a way to expedite my weight loss so I look better by the time I go on a vacation; which was just bumped up 3 months earlier than I was expecting.

Hopefully that heads off the "eat less/exercise more" crowd.

shortspanishguy: If you don't mind me asking, how long did you do it? What were the results like? (how much weight did you lose?)

Clenbuterol scares me... I'm not looking to do this long-term, just perhaps for a month to help speed things up a bit.

 

[shortspanishguy]

Originally posted by: JRock

Originally posted by: KoolAidKid

Originally posted by: JRock
ECA worked well for me. I had better results cycling it with clenbuterol.

2 Weeks on ECA then 2 Weeks on Clen.

Did you feel jittery on either of these?

Initially YES on both. After the jitters of the Clen you get bad muscle craps if you don't drink a lot of water and take potassium in fairly large doses.

I hope you are taking Taurine as well. Have you used T3 or DNP before?

 

[JRock]

Originally posted by: shortspanishguy

Originally posted by: JRock

Originally posted by: KoolAidKid

Originally posted by: JRock
ECA worked well for me. I had better results cycling it with clenbuterol.

2 Weeks on ECA then 2 Weeks on Clen.

Did you feel jittery on either of these?

Initially YES on both. After the jitters of the Clen you get bad muscle craps if you don't drink a lot of water and take potassium in fairly large doses.

I hope you are taking Taurine as well. Have you used T3 or DNP before?

Yes I have used Cynomel/Cytomel (T3 depending on man.) DNP Scares me and I will never touch it!

 

[shortspanishguy]

Originally posted by: kyzen

shortspanishguy: If you don't mind me asking, how long did you do it? What were the results like? (how much weight did you lose?)

Clenbuterol scares me... I'm not looking to do this long-term, just perhaps for a month to help speed things up a bit.

I feel that is is pretty darn effective but keep in mind not legal. It is used for asthma over in Europe. Anyways, it may not be easy for you to find in the US. It can easily be had if you know the "right" people. Most likely you will have to buy it from overseas where ALOT of scammers are. However, I can help you out if you need it. I would not recommend it for someone that is timid to take it though.

 

[kyzen]

Originally posted by: shortspanishguy

Originally posted by: kyzen

shortspanishguy: If you don't mind me asking, how long did you do it? What were the results like? (how much weight did you lose?)

Clenbuterol scares me... I'm not looking to do this long-term, just perhaps for a month to help speed things up a bit.

I feel that is is pretty darn effective but keep in mind not legal. It is used for asthma over in Europe. Anyways, it may not be easy for you to find in the US. It can easily be had if you know the "right" people. Most likely you will have to buy it from overseas where ALOT of scammers are. However, I can help you out if you need it. I would not recommend it for someone that is timid to take it though.

What kind of activities did you couple it with? Would I be fine with my current workout routine, or would I need to increase the time spent?

 

[KoolAidKid]

shortspanishguy, I find it a little odd that a personal trainer pursuing a degree in exercise physiology would advocate using potentially dangerous (and illegal) weight loss drugs. Just a comment.

 

[JRock]

Originally posted by: kyzen

Originally posted by: shortspanishguy

Originally posted by: kyzen

shortspanishguy: If you don't mind me asking, how long did you do it? What were the results like? (how much weight did you lose?)

Clenbuterol scares me... I'm not looking to do this long-term, just perhaps for a month to help speed things up a bit.

I feel that is is pretty darn effective but keep in mind not legal. It is used for asthma over in Europe. Anyways, it may not be easy for you to find in the US. It can easily be had if you know the "right" people. Most likely you will have to buy it from overseas where ALOT of scammers are. However, I can help you out if you need it. I would not recommend it for someone that is timid to take it though.

What kind of activities did you couple it with? Would I be fine with my current workout routine, or would I need to increase the time spent?

Cardio actually takes a hit while on Clen. You get winded much easier. As long as you have a good routine and and in the gym at least 3 days a week you are good to go

 

[JRock]

Originally posted by: KoolAidKid
shortspanishguy, I find it a little odd that a personal trainer pursuing a degree in exercise physiology would advocate using potentially dangerous (and illegal) weight loss drugs. Just a comment.

In the Gyms I have been to they are the ones pushing everything.

 

[shortspanishguy]

My take is that it should be accompanied by diet and exercise. If you take it eats lots of bananas, drink alot of water, and supplement with Taurine. Here is how I feel you should dose it

40/40/40/60/60/60/80/80/80/100/100/100/80/80/80/60/60/60/40/40/40

That is the amount of mcg per day for 3 weeks.

 

[JRock]

Originally posted by: shortspanishguy
My take is that it should be accompanied by diet and exercise. If you take it eats lots of bananas, drink alot of water, and supplement with Taurine. Here is how I feel you should dose it

40/40/40/60/60/60/80/80/80/100/100/100/80/80/80/60/60/60/40/40/40

That is the amount of mcg per day for 3 weeks.

Very Important Part

 

[jlbenedict]

search for Vasopro.. its basically another form of Ephedrine (ephedrine HCL)..
this you can buy legally in the united states

 

[kyzen]

Originally posted by: JRock

Originally posted by: shortspanishguy
My take is that it should be accompanied by diet and exercise. If you take it eats lots of bananas, drink alot of water, and supplement with Taurine. Here is how I feel you should dose it

40/40/40/60/60/60/80/80/80/100/100/100/80/80/80/60/60/60/40/40/40

That is the amount of mcg per day for 3 weeks.

Very Important Part

mcg?

 

[shortspanishguy]

Originally posted by: KoolAidKid
shortspanishguy, I find it a little odd that a personal trainer pursuing a degree in exercise physiology would advocate using potentially dangerous (and illegal) weight loss drugs. Just a comment.

Its because I know the REAL side effects. The media overhypes everything from ephedra to Steroids. If hes gonna do it he may as well do it safely. Keep in mind I recommended he not take it in an earlier post. Also I wanted to say that I do not encourage the use of steroids or illegal substances.

 

[JRock]

Originally posted by: kyzen

Originally posted by: JRock

Originally posted by: shortspanishguy
My take is that it should be accompanied by diet and exercise. If you take it eats lots of bananas, drink alot of water, and supplement with Taurine. Here is how I feel you should dose it

40/40/40/60/60/60/80/80/80/100/100/100/80/80/80/60/60/60/40/40/40

That is the amount of mcg per day for 3 weeks.

Very Important Part

mcg?

micrograms. If you take said doses in Mg they will be your last.

 

[shortspanishguy]

Originally posted by: kyzen

Originally posted by: JRock

Originally posted by: shortspanishguy
My take is that it should be accompanied by diet and exercise. If you take it eats lots of bananas, drink alot of water, and supplement with Taurine. Here is how I feel you should dose it

40/40/40/60/60/60/80/80/80/100/100/100/80/80/80/60/60/60/40/40/40

That is the amount of mcg per day for 3 weeks.

Very Important Part

mcg?

micrograms. Most pills are 20 mcg.

 

[JRock]

Originally posted by: shortspanishguy

Originally posted by: kyzen

Originally posted by: JRock

Originally posted by: shortspanishguy
My take is that it should be accompanied by diet and exercise. If you take it eats lots of bananas, drink alot of water, and supplement with Taurine. Here is how I feel you should dose it

40/40/40/60/60/60/80/80/80/100/100/100/80/80/80/60/60/60/40/40/40

That is the amount of mcg per day for 3 weeks.

Very Important Part

mcg?

micrograms. Most pills are 20 mcg.

or .02mg there are also .04mg/40mcg tabs floating around.