yeah, strangone is right. an 80's guitar isn't vintage. in fact, i'd bet that a 2004 strat will be signifigantly better than an 80's strat. the worst years for strats were the mid-late 70's. you can tell these guitars because they have an oversized headstock and 3 bolts holding the neck on the body instead of the usual 4. there wasn't anything wrong with the headstock, but the 3 bolt neck was less stable and durable and the general quality and workmanship was crappy during this period. but the 50's/60's/early 70's were wonderful. they were hand-built with care and precision. they play true and sweet. also some people believe that the finishes from this period made the wood resonate in a way that sounded better. i think the finishes were bad for the enviroment or something, so they switched to something else.