Anybody here whitewater kayak?

N8Magic

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If you do, can you answer some questions for me?

Is it hard to learn? If so, are there lessons available? How much would it cost to get into the sport? (kayak and accessories)

I'm looking for a new summer hobby as golf has been losing it's appeal lately. I'm considering kayaking as it combines some of my favorite things: water, sun and the great outdoors.

If someone could help me out with some info to get started, I would appreciate it! :)

 

N8Magic

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Originally posted by: Beau6183
My uncle used to be a WW kayak instructor on the snake and green rivers. I'll ask him for ya, get some info.

Sweet, thanks!

I hear there are some good rivers up here in Ontario too...

 

Shelly21

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it's actually quite easy to learn!

in fact, my first time, I sign up with a class... I dunno what kind of 'outdoor' retail stores you have in your area, But that's where I got the ad paper to sign up to "beginner's class". Comes with all gears.

That way you can decide if you want to buy the gears if you're into it. (2-3k for beginner gears I believe)
 

N8Magic

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Originally posted by: Shelly21
it's actually quite easy to learn!

in fact, my first time, I sign up with a class... I dunno what kind of 'outdoor' retail stores you have in your area, But that's where I got the ad paper to sign up to "beginner's class". Comes with all gears.

That way you can decide if you want to buy the gears if you're into it. (2-3k for beginner gears I believe)

DOH! *smacks head*

I'll bet the store I get all of my hiking/camping gear would have all that kind of stuff. In fact, I think they do, but I never usually go upstairs as all the gear I want is on the main floor.
 

Jzero

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Anybody here whitewater kayak?
I kayak-surf. It's like whitewater kayaking...without shallows and rocks :)

Is it hard to learn?
Not really. Basic paddling techniques are extremely simple and even advanced techniques aren't terribly hard to learn.
It's harder to learn if you opt for a cockpit kayak (as opposed to a sit-on-top) because you will need to learn how to bail out, self-rescue and eskimo roll. I have a sit-on-top (much easier in the surf) so I don't know much about rolling, but most sit-inside folk I talk to say it's one of those things that's easy to learn but hard to master and you need to practice it whenever you can.
Additional things to consider:
Sit-on-tops are usually self-bailing. Water that gets in flows out through holes in the boat.
Cockpit boats are more stable and sturdy, not to mention lighter, but they don't self-bail (if water gets in the cockpit, you've got to bail, get a bilge pump, or get ashore and dump).

If so, are there lessons available?
There are lessons available. Most any whitewater place probably offers classes. I know L.L. Bean also offers a number of academies that include basic and advanced techniques, as well as week-long (or longer) expeditions. The classes are surprisingly cheap (<$100 a day) considering all they offer. They also have some good resources at
this page.

How much would it cost to get into the sport? (kayak and accessories)
It's one of those high-entry-cost games, but after that, the prices drop dramatically.
You'll likely spend $400-$1000 for your first kayak.
Figure another $100 for a decent paddle (don't skimp on your paddle!)
another $80 for a PFD.
$50 for a helmet
and maybe $100-$200 for accessories (spray skirt, ballast, drybags if you get a cockpit, leg straps, backrest if you get a sit-on-top, paddle tether, maybe some accessory hatches, etc).

When you're buying a boat, ask if you can "test drive" it. It's best to try and get a feel for the way the boat tracks (stays straight) and turns.
Remember that longer boats stay straighter and are harder to turn. For whitewater you'll want something shorter.
Also remember that narrow boats roll over more easily, so you'll want something wider.

And don't let anyone try to sucker you into buying an "all-around" boat. If you're doing a lot of class 1 or 2 whitewater and flatwater, don't get a longer boat just because the salesman says a short boat won't be good for touring.
The guy near me LOVES to do this. He tells people not to buy surf-specific or flatwater-specific boats in favor of boats that do neither especially well. He pulled this on me but I told him to sod off and bought a surfing boat. Only once have I bothered to take it in the bay. Meanwhile many of my cohorts in the surf struggle on their 12-foot Cobra Explorers rolling and diving in the waves wishing they had gotten something smaller.
Know what you want to use it the most for and get one that suits.
 

LaBang

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I work at an outdoor adventure center and whitewater kayaking is a sport that i really want to pick up. We offer classes for all different levels and they cost around $100. I'd say that you need a little less than $2000 to buy all the gear you need. I'd go for the expensive stuff so that you won't have to buy again later.