Anybody have Solidworks 2007 or 2008 that can run a test

bob4432

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between the prices and my urge to upgrade, i am looking at a e21xx or 8400. i know there are large differences between the cpus in $$$ but have read that high o/c on the 21xx series is nearly guaranteed.

solidworks, besides gaming is the program that takes the bulk of my cpu load, so i am hoping people that have a rig w/ sw 07 or 08 on it can let me know the difference.

here is a benchmark/spreadsheet that is used quite a bit in the sw community - http://spreadsheets.google.com...z7wTpIkC7LA28ybEyxyTPw

i am looking for a decent upgrade in sw performance and i know the rest of my computing experience will be ok as sw is very cpu clock speed confined, currently my x2 4200 is doing the benchmark @ ~235-240S, so if i could cut that in 1/2 or better that would be excellent

will be using the hp ram in the hot deals, so i am guessing my o/c will be limited to a 400fsb push

thanks in advance
 

edcarman

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I would presume that, since the spreadsheet shows standard clocked E6750s getting around 110s, the E8400 would give similar or better performance - leading to your desired 2x performance increase.
 

bunnyfubbles

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Originally posted by: edcarman
I would presume that, since the spreadsheet shows standard clocked E6750s getting around 110s, the E8400 would give similar or better performance - leading to your desired 2x performance increase.

right, but so should an E21xx overclocked to 3GHz...at less than half the cost (chip vs. chip)

Granted, his performance with a 4+GHz overclocked E8400 would most likely crush the record and could probably see close to 4x performance increase, not just 2x...so you could probably justify the price increase through that alone.

I actually have an E2160 and an E8400, but do not have Solidworks, so I'm afraid I'm pretty much useless because of that.
 

bob4432

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i guess my concern is how much is attributed to the cache....wondering if the extra ~$120 is worth it
 

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I doubt the extra 120$ is worth it, and a e8400 can only be clocked to 3.6ghz, 9x400, with the ram hes going to use ? Not 4.0ghz. The extra cash, and the at most 600mhz difference prolly won't justify 120$. Doesn't the app take advantage of qaudcores ? You could prolly cut down the time by 6-8 times if it scales decently, compared to your AMD cpu, IF you overclock the q6600 to 3.4ghz or so.
 

bob4432

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Originally posted by: MarcVenice
I doubt the extra 120$ is worth it, and a e8400 can only be clocked to 3.6ghz, 9x400, with the ram hes going to use ? Not 4.0ghz. The extra cash, and the at most 600mhz difference prolly won't justify 120$. Doesn't the app take advantage of qaudcores ? You could prolly cut down the time by 6-8 times if it scales decently, compared to your AMD cpu, IF you overclock the q6600 to 3.4ghz or so.

during certain taks it does take advantage of more cores but that particular assembly/part that is the benchmark is larger than what i work w/ and it doesn't take full 100% of my x2. it will always saturate 1 core completely and then the other maybe 30-40% unless you are doing something stress analysis or photorendering, which i don't do much of.

maybe a e21xx is the way to go and since they are so cheap, if i don't like it move to a different cpu.

anybody know off the top of their heads what the multipliers are for the e21xxs? does one o/c better than the others in general? also, i would like to keep stock V, but will move up if necessary on the cpu V, but my hsf is one of the zalman 7000series that i will be picking up a skt775 adapter for, so the cooling isn't the best but i think it is better than the stock hsf that comes w/ the cpu.

a upgrade for ~$170 that more than doubles cpu related output would be excellent (thinking of the gigabyte p35 board, the one newegg has on sale for $90)

hell i could sell off my x2 4200 or x2 3800, 2GB of pc3200 and m/b and be into it for much less than $160 :)
 

bunnyfubbles

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E2140 ... _8 x 200 = 1.6GHz
E2160 ... _9 x 200 = 1.8GHz
E2180 ... 10 x 200 = 2.0GHz
E2200 ... 11 x 200 = 2.2GHz

I'd suggest you grab the E2160, I don't know of any of the models achieving consistently higher overclocks, they all seem to have an upper limit of ~3GHz with stock voltage and cooling and beyond that a limit of ~3.2GHz with some pretty decent increased voltage. Going too crazy with volts doesn't seem to get you too much, so I wouldn't get hopes up for much more than 3GHz.

With the E2160 you'll most likely be able to set it to 9 x 333 and get yourself 3GHz even, and that chip can be found for under $80 retail, and the stock cooler should be adequate.