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Pliablemoose

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Originally posted by: GamerExpress
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
I have an InFocus 4805 and am in the process of setting up a HT.

The plus of the projectors is screen size-100"+
Minus-lamp needs to be replaced at $300 a pop
you need a light controlled room

LCD's are maintenance free, just depends on how much effort you want to put into it.

The picture from HD capable projectors is incredible. Mine just does EDTV & it's very good.

Not really true about LCD's, You need to replace the lamps in them as well, and over time image qaulity degrades greatly.

Yep, thought about that after I posted it, & then remembered a guide I recently read about how to replace the light sources in LCD monitors (It looked like something I would only attempt on a broken POS monitor)
 

GamerExpress

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Originally posted by: Apex
That epson is a pretty good unit. I'd definitely take it over that BenQ DLP.

I guess you haven't read the diference between DLP and LCD for projection use in a home theater application.....Go for it then get the Epson.
 

Pocatello

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Projectors are wonderful, but only if you can control the light, like a darkened room or a basement. I'm looking at the Z4 from Sanyo as well, I currently have the optoma H31, which is not an HD projector.
 

EvilYoda

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Originally posted by: GamerExpress
Originally posted by: Apex
That epson is a pretty good unit. I'd definitely take it over that BenQ DLP.

I guess you haven't read the diference between DLP and LCD for projection use in a home theater application.....Go for it then get the Epson.

hey Apex, I think he just challenged you :D

LOL, kid, do a little more research before you get hurt.

(He just reminded me why I usually don't try to help in these threads)
 

GamerExpress

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Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Originally posted by: GamerExpress
Originally posted by: Apex
That epson is a pretty good unit. I'd definitely take it over that BenQ DLP.

I guess you haven't read the diference between DLP and LCD for projection use in a home theater application.....Go for it then get the Epson.

hey Apex, I think he just challenged you :D

LOL, kid, do a little more research before you get hurt.

(He just reminded me why I usually don't try to help in these threads)

Then don't try to help read this if you need some help

"LCD projectors have historically had two weaknesses, both of which are more relevant to video than they are to data applications. The first is visible pixelation, or what is commonly referred to as the "screendoor effect" because it looks like you are viewing the image through a screendoor. The second weakness is not-so-impressive black levels and contrast, which are vitally important elements in a good video image. LCD technology has traditionally had a hard time being taken seriously among some home theater enthusiasts (understandably) because of these flaws in the image."


"Another DLP advantage is that it can produce higher contrast video with deeper black levels than you normally get on an LCD projector. DLP has ardent followers in the home theater world primarily due to this key advantage."

"A third competitive advantage of DLP over LCD is reduced pixelation. These days it is most relevant in the low priced, low resolution SVGA class of products. In SVGA resolution, DLP projectors have a muted pixel structure when viewed from a typical viewing distance. Conversely, most SVGA-resolution LCD projectors tend to have a more visible pixel grid. This is entirely irrelevant if you are using the projector for PowerPoint slide presentations."




This is just one of many articles available on the internet which all say the same thing.

Would you like to rephrase and stop calling me a kid. LCD Projectors are great, just not for Home Theater applications.
 

EvilYoda

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LOL, kid, seriously...stop. Biased much? I've sold $40K DLPs, I've sold LCDs...to each his own. It's rather silly to just say "DLPs are better". Before you quote just one article, how about discussing the demerits of the cost of DLPs, among other things? The OP's not made of money you know.

edit: don't bother replying, or you can PM me, I'm done with helping.
 

Apex

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Originally posted by: GamerExpress
Originally posted by: Apex
That epson is a pretty good unit. I'd definitely take it over that BenQ DLP.

I guess you haven't read the diference between DLP and LCD for projection use in a home theater application.....Go for it then get the Epson.

Actually, I have read that ancient article you linked, thanks.

I've also owned 6 DLP projectors, 5 LCD projectors (including 2 Epsons, one with Micro Lens Array, one without), and currently have a D-ILA/LCOS unit which has many advantages over the other two technologies.

The BenQ PE7700 is a reasonably good projector, based on the HD2+ DMD. 1100 ANSI lumens (about 400 lumens calibrated), 2500:1 on/off contrast, and 5x speed 6-segment colorwheel. It has pretty poor brightness uniformity, though reasonably good colors for a DLP. The BenQ processor it uses is reasonably good at scaling, but up and down, but poor at deinterlacing (not a big deal).

The Epson EMP-TW600 is one of the better LCD projectors, based on their latest .7" panels with MLA (multi lens array) technology to help reduce screen door effect. It's rated at 1600 ANSI lumens (closer to 800 calibrated), 5000:1 on/off contrast, and the same 720p native resolution as the BenQ. It has much better brightness uniformity, and richer, more saturated colors (though they still look natural instead of cartoonish). Part of that is due to its 10-bit internal color processing, part due to LCD's better color ability. It's also marginally quieter. You also get the benefit of both vertical and horizontal lens shift, which makes placement much easier. Scaling is not as good as the BenQ, but deinterlacing is better.

So, please do tell us how that article explains why the PE7700 is better than the EMP-TW600.
 

Apex

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Originally posted by: Zanix
Any advice on a motorized drop down screen?

I have a Stewart Filmscreen motorized dropdown with THX certified microperf on a 12v trigger. It works well and is a great investment. Stewart tends to be costly for what you get though, if you don't get it at accomodation pricing.

What's your budget and how big of a screen are you looking for?
 

exdeath

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Originally posted by: GamerExpress
Originally posted by: Apex
That epson is a pretty good unit. I'd definitely take it over that BenQ DLP.

I guess you haven't read the diference between DLP and LCD for projection use in a home theater application.....Go for it then get the Epson.

DLP still doesnt have the color reproduction and sharpness of LCD for gaming unless you go to uber expensive 3 chip units.

They way I look at it DLP is better for video and movie playback where you want soft silky video with good contrast.

LCD is better when you want vibrant color and sharpness (ie: gaming)

Besides just as you say that DLP has solved it's problems so has LCD: Panasonic's set up eliminates pixelation and the new LCD projectors employ dynamic apertures to match and exceed the contrast ratios of DLP.

It's really a toss up, but I still say DLP for video, LCD for gaming.

Sony has a 1920x1080p 3 chip SXRD (LCOS) projector on the way that will be the first sub $10k 1080p projector, I'm seriously thinking about it... but since all the new consoles are 720p prob just stick with my 720p Z3 for a little while longer.