Anybody else think the Spanish people missed one glaringly obvious point?

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If their government's support of the war in Iraq caused them to become a target for terrorism, doesn't that mean their government was doing the right thing? When evil people see you as a threat, you can assume your present course is the best one.

And if it was ETA framing Al Qaeda, then, by allowing this tragedy to sway the vote in any way, the Spanish people have just given mass murderers exactly what they wanted.
 

GreenGhost

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The only problem is that the action Iraq was not directly associated with terrorism. It was an opportunistic move betting people don't have a clue of what goes on in the world.
 

Zombie

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Zombie
May be they don't want anything to do Iraq war.

The point is that the terrorists don't want them there. That's why they should be there.


Its stupid to let people die just so that you can prove yourself right. May be the spanish people are not into this whole "war against terrorism" thing or it could be that they don't like confrontation. I wouldn't say they are wrong. It is their country and they have a right to make a decision on their own.
 

freegeeks

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HeroOfPellinor

there are already 2 threads in P&N about this subject where you are participating

the fact that you start one in OT is just prove that you are really pissed that your beloved "coalition of the bribed and the willing" is falling apart

mods: lock or move to P&N please
 
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Originally posted by: freegeeks
HeroOfPellinor

there are already 2 threads in P&N about this subject where you are participating

the fact that you start one in OT is just prove that you are really pissed that your beloved "coalition of the bribed and the willing" is falling apart

mods: lock or move to P&N please

This is a question of simple logic. Is this reasoning not sound? I'm hoping for opinions of people who aren't partisan drones like those in P&N.
 

oniq

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Originally posted by: Zombie
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Zombie
May be they don't want anything to do Iraq war.

The point is that the terrorists don't want them there. That's why they should be there.


Its stupid to let people die just so that you can prove yourself right. May be the spanish people are not into this whole "war against terrorism" thing or it could be that they don't like confrontation. I wouldn't say they are wrong. It is their country and they have a right to make a decision on their own.

Why'd they go in the first place?
 
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OT is a magical land of fantasy, where large bosomed women deliver ice cold beer by the bucket and where the troubles of the outside world melt away....AND GODDAMN IT LET'S KEEP IT THAT WAY!
 

Zombie

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Originally posted by: oniq
Originally posted by: Zombie
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Zombie
May be they don't want anything to do Iraq war.

The point is that the terrorists don't want them there. That's why they should be there.


Its stupid to let people die just so that you can prove yourself right. May be the spanish people are not into this whole "war against terrorism" thing or it could be that they don't like confrontation. I wouldn't say they are wrong. It is their country and they have a right to make a decision on their own.

Why'd they go in the first place?

US went to Vietnam and later quit
US went to Somalia and later quit
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by the same token I guess they changed their mind and just wanna cut their losses.
 

oniq

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Originally posted by: Zombie
Originally posted by: oniq
Originally posted by: Zombie
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Zombie
May be they don't want anything to do Iraq war.

The point is that the terrorists don't want them there. That's why they should be there.


Its stupid to let people die just so that you can prove yourself right. May be the spanish people are not into this whole "war against terrorism" thing or it could be that they don't like confrontation. I wouldn't say they are wrong. It is their country and they have a right to make a decision on their own.

Why'd they go in the first place?

US went to Vietnam and later quit
US went to Somalia and later quit
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.
.
by the same token I guess they changed their mind and just wanna cut their losses.

When the world is terrorized left and right I'm sure the terrorists will remember the day that they pulled out of Iraq and not attack them
rolleye.gif
 

gistech1978

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Originally posted by: Zombie
Originally posted by: oniq
Originally posted by: Zombie
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Zombie
May be they don't want anything to do Iraq war.

The point is that the terrorists don't want them there. That's why they should be there.


Its stupid to let people die just so that you can prove yourself right. May be the spanish people are not into this whole "war against terrorism" thing or it could be that they don't like confrontation. I wouldn't say they are wrong. It is their country and they have a right to make a decision on their own.

Why'd they go in the first place?

US went to Vietnam and later quit
US went to Somalia and later quit
.
.
.
by the same token I guess they changed their mind and just wanna cut their losses.

no, those were wars fought by morally bankrupt administrations.
not anything like Bush and his Brigade of Freedom Fighters and Democracy Deployers.
Bush isnt a quitter, he's never quit any of his businesses; he never quit the national guard. he leads with an iron resolve and determination of a mongoose.
 

Bootprint

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Originally posted by: gistech1978
Originally posted by: Zombie
Originally posted by: oniq
Originally posted by: Zombie
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Zombie
May be they don't want anything to do Iraq war.

The point is that the terrorists don't want them there. That's why they should be there.


Its stupid to let people die just so that you can prove yourself right. May be the spanish people are not into this whole "war against terrorism" thing or it could be that they don't like confrontation. I wouldn't say they are wrong. It is their country and they have a right to make a decision on their own.

Why'd they go in the first place?

US went to Vietnam and later quit
US went to Somalia and later quit
.
.
.
by the same token I guess they changed their mind and just wanna cut their losses.

no, those were wars fought by morally bankrupt administrations.
not anything like Bush and his Brigade of Freedom Fighters and Democracy Deployers.
Bush isnt a quitter, he's never quit any of his businesses; he never quit the national guard. he leads with an iron resolve and determination of a mongoose.


A mongoose who uses someone elses blood.
 

IGBT

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Be it ETA or Al Qadea..they have rewarded and greatly encourage terrorists world wide.
 

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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
P&N
P&N
P&N!!!

OT is a magical land of fantasy, where large bosomed women deliver ice cold beer by the bucket and where the troubles of the outside world melt away....AND GODDAMN IT LET'S KEEP IT THAT WAY!

... I guess that explains all of the divorce threads.
 

dexvx

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Zombie
May be they don't want anything to do Iraq war.

The point is that the terrorists don't want them there. That's why they should be there.

I dont want you to paypal me $1000.... Thats why you should paypal me $1000.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Zombie
May be they don't want anything to do Iraq war.

The point is that the terrorists don't want them there. That's why they should be there.

the population of Spain didn't want to go there, that is why they should withdraw. afterall, it is supposably a democracy.
 

TheBoyBlunder

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Did anyone consider it might not be as simple as revenge for the war in Iraq? That maybe it's revenge for the inquisition and Ferdinand & Isabella kicking the Muslims out of southern Spain?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: TheBoyBlunder
Did anyone consider it might not be as simple as revenge for the war in Iraq? That maybe it's revenge for the inquisition and Ferdinand & Isabella kicking the Muslims out of southern Spain?

Whoa if that's the case then the French should be careful because the Muslims might want payback for what Charles Martel did to them at the Battle of Tours!
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drewshin

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it seems to me that the main point some people seem to be missing is that i haven't heard the socialists say that they are relenting on terrorism one bit. everything points to the contrary. they've just decided it's not and never has been in their interest to stay in iraq (which ironically never had to deal with al-qaeda there until just last year).

i dont see where people get that withdrawing troops from iraq (which supposedly had little to do with illegal weapons or terrorism, it was about the freeing the iraqi people) has suddenly signaled that terrorism has won, a very far strectch in my book.