Any Tool Fetishists out there? DeWalt 36V cordless lineup coming soon.

[The Sauce]

DeWalt 36V Cordless

 

[yobarman]

a thead not concerning the band?! boo on this post!

 

[JinLien]

Originally posted by: Snatchface
DeWalt 36V Cordless

Weight, cost, and how practical are they going to be?

 

[Evadman]

The 18v set I have is awesome and takes tons of abuse. The 24v one I have will already break an arm if you are not careful. I am so getting the 36v version so I can break my leg while drilling though the planet to china.

 

[bradruth]

That would be "fetishists," not "fettichists." :laugh:

 

[JinLien]

Originally posted by: Evadman
The 18v set I have is awesome and takes tons of abuse. The 24v one I have will already break an arm if you are not careful. I am so getting the 36v version so I can break my leg while drilling though the planet to china.

I find 12~18V is more than adequate for most quick little drilling job, my sweet spot preference is 14.4V with 1/2" chuck. For heavy duty drilling nothing beat a corded holehawg or a corded drill. And, driving screws should be left for an impact driver because it is smaller/lighter & battery life last longer than a drill.

 

[Evadman]

Originally posted by: JinLien
I find 12~18V is more than adequate for most quick little drilling job, my sweet spot preference is 14.4V with 1/2" chuck. For heavy duty drilling nothing beat a corded holehawg or a corded drill. And, driving screws should be left for an impact driver because it is smaller/lighter & battery life last longer than a drill.

the only time I have ever used the 24v drill where I actualy needed the 24v was when I was putting an anchor in a brick. I though they were softer than they are, on par with concreete. Nope. More like drilling though tool steel. Geez, even with the 24v hammer drill it took almost 5 minutes.

 

[Mo0o]

Not so good with the spelling are you?

 

[Sluggo]

Originally posted by: JinLien

Originally posted by: Snatchface
DeWalt 36V Cordless

Weight, cost, and how practical are they going to be?

By the looks of the battery on the pic, it will be about at heavy as an old school Skil worm drive saw.

For those who have never had the joy of using a Skil worm drive saw for a few hours, they tip the scale at a hefty 15ish pounds.

 

[Evadman]

Originally posted by: Mo0o
Not so good with the spelling are you?

If you are refering to me, then yes, I don't proof read my comments. I type them. If this were something important, I would run it though a spell checker. So far, I have only ran 2 posts though a spell checker.

If you are not refering to me, then I don't care. Well, actually, I don't care either way.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Evadman
The 18v set I have is awesome and takes tons of abuse. The 24v one I have will already break an arm if you are not careful. I am so getting the 36v version so I can break my leg while drilling though the planet to china.

LMAO.... :laugh:

:thumbsup:

 

[JinLien]

Originally posted by: Sluggo

Originally posted by: JinLien

Originally posted by: Snatchface
DeWalt 36V Cordless

Weight, cost, and how practical are they going to be?

By the looks of the battery on the pic, it will be about at heavy as an old school Skil worm drive saw.

For those who have never had the joy of using a Skil worm drive saw for a few hours, they tip the scale at a hefty 15ish pounds.

Worm drive are great with the power & best is the line of sight that it gives. I wish that manufactures learn to put the motor on the right of the circular saws so users have better line of sight to cut.

 

[brxndxn]

So.. um.. the 36volt is for stirring mortar where normal cords won't reach?

I'm still a man with a huge cock.. but 36volt cordless doesn't give me a hard-on.. It's like saying, "Hey.. my Jetta's got a supercharger."

If you're gonna tug around a 40lb drill, why not plug it in the wall and get one that won't cry like a baby when you stir with it?

I was at Home Depot the other day and saw this awesome little 6volt drill by Bosch that was tiny as fvck.. Now that got me hard.. Why? Cause' it'd be like carrying a Deringer as a side-arm to your pistol side-arm.

 

[foghorn67]

Yeah, I don't understand anything more then a 18v. Unless you are a big scary guy where weight doesn't matter.
For me a 12v does the job. When it doesn't, the light corded corded one will do.
Maybe they are for sites where generators aren't available.

 

[Evadman]

Originally posted by: brxndxn
So.. um.. the 36volt is for stirring mortar where normal cords won't reach?

The 18v I have does mortar just fine. I have used it to mix concrete in a 5 gallon bucket with a drywall compound mixer attachment, gravel and all.

Originally posted by: brxndxn
If you're gonna tug around a 40lb drill, why not plug it in the wall and get one that won't cry like a baby when you stir with it?

corded drills, are well, corded. Cordless are more convienient and can be used without having to find a plug somewhere, or use 100' of extension cord.

Originally posted by: foghorn67
Yeah, I don't understand anything more then a 18v. Unless you are a big scary guy where weight doesn't matter.
For me a 12v does the job. When it doesn't, the light corded corded one will do.
Maybe they are for sites where generators aren't available.

GEt a 18v dewalt and use it to build a deck or on a decent sized project. Then go back to a corded one or your 12v one. It won't happen. It is actually pretty hard to explain the vast difference. I have 6, 12, 14.4, 18 and 24v versions of cordless drills with the 18v being the one I use for 'everything'. The 24v is more for when I need to drill serious stuff, like though 1/2" steel plate or concrete. You are right, it is too bulky to be used for every job.

 

[JinLien]

GEt a 18v dewalt and use it to build a deck or on a decent sized project. Then go back to a corded one or your 12v one. It won't happen. It is actually pretty hard to explain the vast difference. I have 6, 12, 14.4, 18 and 24v versions of cordless drills with the 18v being the one I use for 'everything'. The 24v is more for when I need to drill serious stuff, like though 1/2" steel plate or concrete. You are right, it is too bulky to be used for every job.

Makita impact drivers (2/3 the dimensions of drills for tight spaces):

12V -- 1110 in-lbs -- 3.5 lbs
14.4V -- 1240 in-lbs -- 3.7 lbs
18V Li-Ion -- 1289 in-lbs -- 3.3 lbs (slightly smaller than the Makita 14.4V)

Dewalt impact drivers are slightly larger and heavier than Makita:

14.4V -- 1150 in-lbs -- 4.1 lbs
18V -- 1170 in-lbs -- 4.9 lbs

As you can see it isn't worth it to go to a 18V for the added weight on a Dewalt while 12~14.4V deliver about the same a mount of torque. Drills add an additional 30% or more of weight at 30-50% larger in size and eat at least twice as much battery on driving screws/bolts, and are 1/3 the torque when compare to impact drivers.

The newer expensive Makita 18V Li-Ion is a slim and light weight impact that save your wrist, deliver more torque, great battery life and isn't as tiring to lug around all day long.

Certain type of large tools aren't meant to be in tight places.

 

[ijester]

I build houses for a living, and I don't like the big heavier ones. I use my DeWalt 12v for 80% of everything, and my 18v when I need more power.

For me, having enough batteries is the key. I have three XR batteries for each one, so I am never out of power.

The 12v is the perfect blend of power and light weight for putting in doorknobs, cabinet hardware, getting into tight spaces, etc.

More Batteries ftw!

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Corded and cordless both have thier places. When I help my dad with some electrical jobs, like wiring my grandma's house, there's no way I would want to pick up a cordless with enough battery to punch 1 1/2" holes for a couple hours. You need one of these for a job like that:
http://www.milwaukeeconnect.com/webapp/...3_27_40027_-1_284301_281139_189333_362
We used a selfeed bit like the ones on the right side of the page. Those bits are awesome until you hit a nail, then you punch a wall as hard as the drill can.

 

[The Sauce]

Well in response to everyone here, the issue is NOT the power, but more the efficiency and longevity. These are the new Lithium-ion batteries so their 36V batteries are the same size and weight (or lighter) as the current 18V NiCD/NiMH batteries. They also last 280% longer per charge and will last through 2000 recharge cycles (the current 18V are rated for about 400 cycles I think). So its a win-win - more power, same weight, better run time...and the bateries will last a lifetime of recharging for average use.

Also 36V may not be necessary for drilling but its great for running that recip saw. My current 18V will get through 2 4x4's at best before dying right now. Yes you can break your wrist with the 18V stuff....thats why they have clutches these says...for those with weak girlie wrists who can't handle power tools

PS - yes its true - I don't use the word "Fetishism" on a daily basis, thankfully. Forgive the spelling.

 

[waggy]

whoa..36v.

heh im very happy with my 14.4 of course i do not do anything like what you guys are talking about. just general stuff around the house. hmm that thing is huge. doubt i could hold it hehe

 

[The Sauce]

Originally posted by: ijester

More Batteries ftw!

Totally agree. I actually think that Makita has the right idea with their new line of Lithium ion 18V which are half the size fof their current 18V and run much longer per charge...still a bit pricey though.

 

[ijester]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Corded and cordless both have thier places. When I help my dad with some electrical jobs, like wiring my grandma's house, there's no way I would want to pick up a cordless with enough battery to punch 1 1/2" holes for a couple hours. You need one of these for a job like that:
http://www.milwaukeeconnect.com/webapp/...3_27_40027_-1_284301_281139_189333_362
We used a selfeed bit like the ones on the right side of the page. Those bits are awesome until you hit a nail, then you punch a wall as hard as the drill can.

I have the right angle one - the infamous "Hole Hawg". Use the milwaukee self feed bits, and the augers for long holes. If you hit a nail, better hang on though, you can go for a ride.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: Evadman
The 18v set I have is awesome and takes tons of abuse. The 24v one I have will already break an arm if you are not careful. I am so getting the 36v version so I can break my leg while drilling though the planet to china.

Mmmmmm... I could only hope so. I want one....

 

[SithSolo1]

For the tool idiots in the crowd, namely me, can someone explain the differrence between a hammerdrill, a rotary hammer, and an impact wrench? They all look like a drill to me.

 

[JinLien]

Originally posted by: SithSolo1
For the tool idiots in the crowd, namely me, can someone explain the differrence between a hammerdrill, a rotary hammer, and an impact wrench? They all look like a drill to me.

hammer drill = rotary hammer

impact wrench & impact driver are very similar. Wrench normally have square drive at 1/4", 3/8", or 1/2" that use to drive nuts. Drivers have hex shank that are use to drive screws, and it can be use to drill with hex shank drill bits, hex shank nut driver adaptors to take nut socket or hex shank nut setters.