Any tips for a WoW Pally?

[housecat]

I just started a pally and curious what other ppl think of the class.. and other classes for that matter.

I just started so I dont know much, but I liked the ShadowKnight in EQ and I've liked the pally so far in WoW.

Plate armor, heals, decent damage.. can't complain besides that he might not be the best for grouping.

 

[GasX]

Pros: Good soloer, hard to kill, can heal and rez party members

Cons: Low damage, can't tank as well as a warrior, can't heal as well as a priest, everyone and his cousin, aunt and mother is one.

 

[TheVrolok]

Holy Light + Divine Favor + Illumination + BoK + Clense + Molten Core = FTW

 

[Quixfire]

Druids, Paladins, & Priests are a warrior's best friends.


P.S. We like warlocks too.

 

[ggnl]

They are good characters, but they suffer the same fate as any other hybrid class. They are great in solo pve and pvp, but they are lacking in group utility. Warriors are much better at tanking and priests are much better at healing.

Aside from that, I don't think you'll be be disappointed with the class unless you have your heart set on hardcore, endgame raiding. Overall, they are a very good class.

 

[Concillian]

Originally posted by: housecat
Plate armor, heals, decent damage.. can't complain besides that he might not be the best for grouping.

Depends on what you consider 'decent damage' I can't think of a single class that isn't capable of outdamaging a pally. Maybe a holy spec priest or a survival specced Hunter, but that's about it.

There are a LOT of paladins, and they, for whatever reason, seem to attract players who are generally a little more clueless than other classes. That is a generalization, and there are well played pally's too, but you will have to put up with the 'general opinions' because some people will judge you solely based on others of your class they have met. I think few people think of the good paladins they've grouped with (paladins are like hunters in that respect, they are always fighting an uphill battle in terms of general opinion, because they seem to attract the 'most clueless' people, for whatever reason)

I played a pally for a while, and it wasn't really my kind of playstyle.

 

[jaedaliu]

mine's 48, he's fun to play.

I agree with everyone except the "can't find a group" thing. I've never had problems finding a group. I can heal in all level-appropriate dungeons without any help, and tend to because the stupid priests and druids are always killing stuffs.

damage shortfalls are somewhat remedied by seal of command in the retribution tree. Overall the seal won't add that much DPS, but a proc or 2 causes your damage to spike. It's great for finishing someone off in PvP (i know you can't tell it to proc, but when it goes off, it's great)

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: Quixfire
P.S. We like warlocks too.

You aggro em, I'll AoE em...

 

[TheVrolok]

On a side note, Paladins rock in groups. Off tanks, healers, buffers.

 

[Litchfield285]

i love palys... they are welcome in 5 man groups too... most people in high level instances believe the perfect group is warrior, priest, mage, rogue, and other... other being druid, warlock, or paladin...

but yeah, if you can stand leveling up the paladin they are supposed to be super fun to play at level 50+...

 

[Sassy]

1. If you?re new to gaming, the Pally is a good beginner learner class.

2. Until we see more priests, Paladins will be in demand as the primary healer. Although I see many people rolling an alt priest, unfortunately to few seem to take that priest to the higher levels where it is most needed.

3. They have a variety of choices in weapon skills and armor proficiencies

4. We have a nice choice of spells and abilities

5. Con: When there is no priest or tank available, to many people expect the Pally to fulfill both these roles within a group and perform as well as those classes

6. Pro: Blizzard didn?t design Night Elf Paladins

 

[torpid]

Paladins start off strong, get stronger, then as they roll on past the 40's, fade into frustration. The main valid strategies at that point start to become outlasting the enemy. They are still somewhat useful as backup backup healers in instances, at least. Basically, they have diminishing returns after being overpowered for about 40+ levels, and are one of the more boring classes (relatively speaking - there aren't really any truly boring ones).

 

[housecat]

im not a noob player, i just dont know a whole lot of the WoW classes/races

i did play alot of EQ back in the day, and loved my iskar necro.. prob my favorite but i also really appreciated my shadowknight being able to wear plate, hold his own in 1v1 combat and have alot of necro abilities.

thats kinda what the WoW pally reminded me of, the SK that i never got to level 65 in EQ.

so i thought i'd start over with a MUCH better game without SOE involved

i dont know what other class to try, i might stick with the pally and take him to 60. but i created a Hunter as well.




one thing i hated always in EQ were pure caster classes. while fun and great.. i absolutely deplore gathering ingredients for spells, doing combines and buying all the spells.
really really sucks. i'll take a melee or hybrid anyday.
thats just my preference.
but Necro was my specialty.. i owned in dueling. kind of a caster, but mostly DOTs (dmg over time) and his pet.



i have a dwarf hunter (for that bonus in guns) that i might try out too.

sounds to me like the undead is the most powerful race in WoW, eating corpses and everything else they can do.

 

[Litchfield285]

a bit of advice... if you are interested in grouping at all endgame pick any class other than hunter... no one wants hunters in endgame instance... we are only a little bit useful in endgame raids such as MC or onyxia...

you should, however, play what class is most fun to you... and hunter, imo, is one of the most fun classes to solo with in the game... that being said there is obviously a trade off for being the best solo class, and that is that no one wants us in instances... period.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: Concillian
There are a LOT of paladins, and they, for whatever reason, seem to attract players who are generally a little more clueless than other classes. That is a generalization, and there are well played pally's too, but you will have to put up with the 'general opinions' because some people will judge you solely based on others of your class they have met. I think few people think of the good paladins they've grouped with (paladins are like hunters in that respect, they are always fighting an uphill battle in terms of general opinion, because they seem to attract the 'most clueless' people, for whatever reason)

I played a pally for a while, and it wasn't really my kind of playstyle.

L23 Pally here... And I agree with much of what Concillian says. There are too many Pallys out there who think their sole job is to pick up the strongest 2H weapon they can find, and charge into the nearest group of bad guys.

However... That may stem from the fact that there isn't necessarily a single "best" way to play as a Pally in every situation. Even within one instance (dungeon), it may be best to play 2nd tank with one group of baddies, and then step back and be purly a healer in the next. It's a very dynamic role, and you really have to play off the strengths/weaknesses of the rest of the group in that particular situation.

 

[Schadenfroh]

TIP: quit playing pally, i have a lvl 40 pally, boring ass class and a lvl 35 or better of almost every other class. It is the most boring class by far.

 

[Scouzer]

I have a 54 Pally.

I unsubscribed.

I can tank anything, kill anything...but that doesn't make it fun. It takes forever. Finding a group isn't a problem though...

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
TIP: quit playing pally... It is the most boring class by far.

I disagree wholeheartedly.

But, to each his own.

 

[housecat]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
TIP: quit playing pally, i have a lvl 40 pally, boring ass class and a lvl 35 or better of almost every other class. It is the most boring class by far.

really?

hmmm

i am going to try a few others but none seem to interest me much.

my opinions:

warlock: jack of all trades, master of nothing.. i have zero interest in this class
mage: powerful, fun.. but afraid these qualities get everyone and their mother to play one.. who doesnt want to be the badass?
warrior: word is they are gimped. everyone else who hasnt heard, prob wants to be one to be the badass so everyone and their mother is a warrior.
hunter: dwarven gunman sounds cool. im slightly interested. sounds like they are unwanted in groups= big turn off.
rogue: largest dmg dealing class, again a heavy dmg dealer so every kid wants to play one and be the big freakin hero... equal? gheyed class stricken with tons of wannabe badasses who want to be the "scary class you dont want to mess with"..
I'm not intimindated. And I'd love to play a class that can destroy rogues in duels.
Paladin: roundabout class, only caster with plate (highly attractive to me), i figured it was overlooked by most people thinking the hybrid is gimped (which is not my experience in EQ)
Priest: my wife is one of these, so a companion class wouldnt be bad. My view is not many ppl want to be the "heal b*tch", so its prob a good class in my view. Supposedly pretty decent at duels.
Shaman: my wife plays alliance, so no go unless its a low lvl just to play around with. Unfortunately, I heard these are the guys who rock the most in duels.

Let me know what you think. If I'm wrong/right and what class you'd recommend.

 

[Concillian]

I think many of these are not quite right

There are three overplayed classes, you nailed one of them (rogues). Pally and Hunter are the other two.
Warlock is not the jack of all trades, master of none, that is the druid. Personally I like the druid as a support class better than pally, but I know most disagree... I don't know if you realized that you left out the druid.
Warlock is primarily a DPS class with some very unique abilities (soulstone, Blood Pact, etc) One of the two classes with effective AoE.

Yeah, people like mages, it's a good thing too because they are a key component in groups at higher level because they have the most effective AoE spells.

Warrior is a mixture of two:
1) what you list
2) people who love grouping and want to be a true tank
They are not nearly as bad to solo with as before the last patch, the improvements made were signficant. I don't think they're really gimped anymore, though the people in the official forums in the warrior class forum whine up and down (just like in every other class forum on the official forum) A warrior can be played like a badass solo and like an effective tank in groups. It is a virtual necessity in the high level instances and a well played warrior will not be short of invites. Warriors are not terribly prominent on alliance side. On the alliance server I was on (Lightbringer) I'd see (off the top of my head) about twice as many paladins as warriors.

You say you like the pally because they are a caster with plate, the only kind of caster you are is a healer. There are a couple offensive spells if you invest significant talent points, but for the most part a paladin is melee with heals.

The DRUID is more like the caster with plate, as bear form increases deffense up to a level that matches or exceeds mail (pre-40) and plate (post-40). Offensive spells and healing, then switch to bear form and minimize your damage taken while your mana regenerates.

 

[housecat]

i did forget druid. i dont know much about them at all. so i forgot.

i havent really considered druid at all.

yeah i like the heals (my favorite kind of spells ) and plate combo that the pally has.
i consider a healer a spellcaster.

well crap.
i dont know what to play, guess i'll keep trying my pally.. i think hes fun.
and seems tough to crack, i have decent dmg dealing, with great heals and eventually good armor.

i went with 2H maces because i dont have to train to use these and figured the longer downtime between swings would be a prime moment to cast heals and other spells anyway.
im usually casting fairly often either reapplying a seal or a heal.

i primarily so far have just been doing quests.. way more fun than EQueer.

trying to get decent lvl for when battlegrounds comes out.





so what class is the bane of the rogues?
dueling and straight up PVP, like battlegrounds

i'd just liek to wipe the smirk off those guys' faces.. even if it means im weak against other classes

 

[housecat]

Originally posted by: Concillian
I think many of these are not quite right

There are three overplayed classes, you nailed one of them (rogues). Pally and Hunter are the other two.
Warlock is not the jack of all trades, master of none, that is the druid. Personally I like the druid as a support class better than pally, but I know most disagree... I don't know if you realized that you left out the druid.
Warlock is primarily a DPS class with some very unique abilities (soulstone, Blood Pact, etc) One of the two classes with effective AoE.

Yeah, people like mages, it's a good thing too because they are a key component in groups at higher level because they have the most effective AoE spells.

Warrior is a mixture of two:
1) what you list
2) people who love grouping and want to be a true tank
They are not nearly as bad to solo with as before the last patch, the improvements made were signficant. I don't think they're really gimped anymore, though the people in the official forums in the warrior class forum whine up and down (just like in every other class forum on the official forum) A warrior can be played like a badass solo and like an effective tank in groups. It is a virtual necessity in the high level instances and a well played warrior will not be short of invites. Warriors are not terribly prominent on alliance side. On the alliance server I was on (Lightbringer) I'd see (off the top of my head) about twice as many paladins as warriors.

You say you like the pally because they are a caster with plate, the only kind of caster you are is a healer. There are a couple offensive spells if you invest significant talent points, but for the most part a paladin is melee with heals.

The DRUID is more like the caster with plate, as bear form increases deffense up to a level that matches or exceeds mail (pre-40) and plate (post-40). Offensive spells and healing, then switch to bear form and minimize your damage taken while your mana regenerates.

you know what man.
you sold me, im creating a druid and trying it out.

sounds really good/cool.

and not many people play a druid right?
i hope so.





i hate the popular classes. they pick those to be some big badass usually, cuz no one likes to lose.. but i'd rather be the class that everyone overlooks and ends up mopping the floor with them.

in EQ, i loved my necro and i was excellent at him.
i could defeat anyone in duels and was generally unstoppable 1v1.. and in group the uneducated noobs had no idea i could essentially "heal" and had such powerful of a pet.

It was a great class, hardly anyone was a necro and i just plain owned.
It was hard finding a group sometimes, but only to the uneducated, in many circumstances those who tried playing with me found out i could act as a medium quality healer and do massive damage with my slows, DOTs and pet.

 

[nsafreak]

Well I guess I'll chip my opinion in here as I've played a fair number of classes, current main is a Pally

Paladin (lvl 31) - This character can take a beating and still dish it out. True he isn't the tank that a warrior can be but my Paladin isn't bad at all. I regularly take on 2 mobs at once, kill both then heal a little and go on for more. It's an awesome solo class if that's your thing. If you like to group that's not a problem either. If I start looking for groups it typically doesn't take long to find one. He's also not a bad PvP character either as most enemies find that he is not a quick kill unless they are a significantly higher level.

Warlock (lvl 6, just started) - Seems to be a fun character and shares some similarities with the hunter. Granted she definitely has some strong points going for her that the hunter does not have and it shouldn't be too hard to find a group.

Mage (lvl 18 then deleted, might play again someday) - Well I deleted this character out of sheer boredom. Sure it's a powerful class but really it's nothing more than blast, blast, blast, rinse & repeat. It's a great class for grouping and is key for endgame raids but really it can get repetitious, at least it did for me.

Shaman (lvl 10, I think) - I'm not sure if I even have this character still but really it's not a bad character. It's fun to solo it's just that I picked a server that I didn't have any friends on in the Horde. I might try this character again in the future.


Overall there really isn't a 'bad' class it's just that some cater to certain playstyles more than they do others, much like any other MMO. You should have fun with a Pally and you may want to try something more dynamic like a Warlock when you have the chance.

 

[housecat]

well i didnt really enjoy the druid.

but i still like my pally. i tried a mage too.. im keeping him, kinda fun.

i loved my wizard in EQ so it would make sense i liked the mage.. i just HATED the spell gathering.. but looks like that is gone in WoW.
(he was my PL char in EQ so i had all kinds of easy money to get spells)


using this http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.ph...minlevel=10&maxlevel=60&servertypeid=1
i've been able to see how many is what class on each server.

i really do not want to be a popular class. and it appears the warlock and priests are the lowest on both servers i might be moving too.



i'll def give the warlock a try due to this. looks like gnomes and dwarves are low across the board too... looks like i'll be playing a gnome or dwarf then!

 

[HardcoreRobot]

my advice, dont pick my server because i will kill you without remorse. over and over and over and over.

considering the state of the warlock right now, i would not choose that class. thats my main, and i love it, but there are lots of problems, just check the class forums on the wow site.