Any telco (phone) savy folks in the house????

[redgtxdi]

So I've got sunrocket now & pretty happy with it. A few glitches, but I knew I was gonna save a ton of money so I'm stickin' with it.

Now.........my phone sits over by my modem/gizmo/router now. I'd like to move it back into the kitchen where it was (near the phone jack). So here's the idea I have.

I *had* a phone line installed by the modem/router back in the day for dial up. That jack is still there. It runs all the way back to the telco box on the side of my house.

Here's what I found when I open it up.........

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5198/img0274hl4.jpg

Looks like red/green was the add line. Since they're all going to 2 posts (I'm not phone savy, but let's say +/-) can I daisy-chain them to essentially utilize the jack in my kitchen again???

(I've already tried as-is but no dial tone. Methinks I need to take the wires away from the telco screws?????????)

And also.........please check out this pic. Anybody know what the heck this is????....(it buzzes this annoying buzz 24/7).....


Is this anything telco related or something else entirely??????


Cliffs---------Right now it's gizmo to phone. I wanna go Gizmo to old phone jack leading back to telco box which *should*(?) connect to wires leading back to kitchen jack???

 

[Colt45]

the blue wires are the lines to the central office

red/green should be distributed through the house

 

[redgtxdi]

Well, I think one set might. (Actually, just checked & those are not going "to" telco, but "to" my phone jacks)


And to make myself look utterly stupid. I just realized I had the phone line plugged into the wrong socket on the gizmo. (Phone2 instead of Phone1).

I put my phone back by the router & it wouldn't work. Rebooted gizmo & still nothin'. Looked to realize I had the wrong socket........duh........back to Phone1....all's well.

Moved phone back over to the kitchen..........VOILA!!! Dial tone!!!!!!!!!!!!

Should I still disconnect the wires from the telco box & just twist 'em together?

Or just leave it??


EDIT: There's blue on white and white on blue, then a green/red add line. The 2 blue on whites (my original home jacks) are mated with the green wich is the add line and all 3 are mounted to the green headed screw. The 2 white on blues and the red are mated together on the adjacent screw. I've even snapped the fixture and the lid closed and the phone still works so I'm leavin' it for now.

 

[redgtxdi]

No phone geeks??

I thought VOIP would bridge that gap & we could all live in happiness.........

 

[redgtxdi]

DOh!

Found one problem.


Phone won't ring. Can make calls out & even receive calls, but when calling the house phone, it will definitely not ring. (Yes, I checked "ringer on/off")

 

[intogamer]

pwn3d

 

[redgtxdi]

Originally posted by: intogamer
pwn3d

 

[Montano]

Here you go :beer:

 

[ScottMac]

Blue / White blue are the first line from the telco. Orange/Orange white are the second pair

As mentioned red/green are the first line for the house, yellow/black are line 2 (usually).

For the no ring problem, try swapping the red/green ... some phones are sensitive to a swapped pair.

Good Luck

Scott

 

[bsobel]

Originally posted by: ScottMac
Blue / White blue are the first line from the telco. Orange/Orange white are the second pair

Wrong, sorry guys, this is demark 101.

You have a pretty standard demark. WHen the demark is open as you have it with the cover pulled back it disconnects the rj11 from the phone side breaking the connection. ALl those other wires red/green blue/bluewhite and blue/bluewhite are all running to one or more outlets in your house.

You should simply need to plug the Voip device into your wall with a standard cord. BUT leave the little rj11 adapater open in the demark OR open the phone company side and disconnect the two wires on THAT side. Or disconnect everything from the green and copper posts and use phone line splices (from radioshack) to connect the wires.

Basically what you have now is the phone company providing dialtone along with your voip device. You need to break the house/phone company connection. Of course if your on dsl this will change a bit as you need the incoming connection to your dsl modem but want the rest of the lines disconnected from it. In that case, find which wire goes to the dsl socket and leave that connected to the binding posts and remove the others and wire splice them (do not strip and twist them, get sealed gell wire splices)

I'll subscribe if you have any more questions, just update the thread. But this should be very simple.


Having the phone company dialtone along with the Voip dial tone isnt going to work.

 

[bsobel]

Originally posted by: redgtxdi
DOh!

Found one problem.


Phone won't ring. Can make calls out & even receive calls, but when calling the house phone, it will definitely not ring. (Yes, I checked "ringer on/off")

That is because your still pulling in dialtone from the CO side and it absorbs the voltage spike the ring would cause.

 

[redgtxdi]

OK, to clear a couple things up..........

#1.) I discontinued telco service about a month ago.

#2.) I did notice that I still have some power coming thru the lines. (tested w/ a corded phone & key lights worked and pushing keys rendered 'beeps')


I was warned that this would fry my VOIP adapter, however it did not. Once I realized I couldn't get a ring to the phone, I put the adapter & phone back the way they were before & the adapter is still working just fine.

If that Michigantel site is so certain I'd fry my adapter, is there any reason I didn't????

P.S. Thanks for the replies!!!!!!!! :thumbsup:

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: bsobel

Originally posted by: ScottMac
Blue / White blue are the first line from the telco. Orange/Orange white are the second pair

Wrong, sorry guys, this is demark 101.

You have a pretty standard demark. WHen the demark is open as you have it with the cover pulled back it disconnects the rj11 from the phone side breaking the connection. ALl those other wires red/green blue/bluewhite and blue/bluewhite are all running to one or more outlets in your house.

You should simply need to plug the Voip device into your wall with a standard cord. BUT leave the little rj11 adapater open in the demark OR open the phone company side and disconnect the two wires on THAT side. Or disconnect everything from the green and copper posts and use phone line splices (from radioshack) to connect the wires.

Basically what you have now is the phone company providing dialtone along with your voip device. You need to break the house/phone company connection. Of course if your on dsl this will change a bit as you need the incoming connection to your dsl modem but want the rest of the lines disconnected from it. In that case, find which wire goes to the dsl socket and leave that connected to the binding posts and remove the others and wire splice them (do not strip and twist them, get sealed gell wire splices)

I'll subscribe if you have any more questions, just update the thread. But this should be very simple.


Having the phone company dialtone along with the Voip dial tone isnt going to work.

WINNAR!!! I call it a NID, you call it a DMARK though. Same thing