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Any suggestions on a kickin MOBO and P4?

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lavagirl669

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Any suggestions on a really nice MOBO and CPU?

I've been told ASUS is good and for the CPU I want to go with the P4 3.2C or 3.0 with HT

Be willing to spend about $400 or $500+ if needed.

Any thoughts please share...thanks.

Lavagirl
 
Abit is7
http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categories=1&model=79

Under $100 and has everything I want in a mobo except gigabit lan and extra sata sockets. The reason I like this mobo is because it has the extra space between the AGP slot and pci-1.

the sweet spot for p4s is at 2.8 (as far as price is concerned anyway)

you can upgrade next year to a 3.4, or you can buy the 3.4 now and not have to worry about selling the 2.8 later. you'll just be saving whatever you can sell the 2.8 for next year (most likely about $90)

do you also need ram? I recommend the Corsair VS1GBKIT400 1GB Kit . It's cas 2.5

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80098-21
 
Oh!! you want a sweet P4 board...DFI Lanparty all the way! The 865i board is really awesome and it OC's great! Plus, it looks awesome to boot!
 
OMgZ a gurl! ASLPIX OMGHI2U2! 😀

Anyways..

For a P4 chip, I'm gunna suggest a 2.8C. IMO, it's the best P4 chip for price/performance. For a motherboard, I'm thinkin' maybe an Abit IS7/IC7/IC7-G. All of those boards are proven for not only overclocking, but stability and features.
 
Your if current RAM can do 200FSB or more then either the 3 or 3.2C GHz would be fine...if not you will have to get better RAM and in that case I would go for the 2.8C and OC it. I'm using the DFI LanParty as seen here with a 2.8C @ 3.5GHz+ and it's 1 great MoBo OCer.
 
Originally posted by: Vegetto
OMgZ a gurl! ASLPIX OMGHI2U2! 😀

Anyways..

For a P4 chip, I'm gunna suggest a 2.8C. IMO, it's the best P4 chip for price/performance. For a motherboard, I'm thinkin' maybe an Abit IS7/IC7/IC7-G. All of those boards are proven for not only overclocking, but stability and features.
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😀



i got the 2.80c (DC/HT/800FSB) and it o/c's nicely to ~3.3Ghz . . . abit ic7 works for me.
. . . you'll have to use the MB's ram:cpu ratio adjustment for your current ram (5:4 or 3:4 if you O/C) . . . no biggie.

edit: why do you wanna UPgrade . . . 2.4Ghz is pretty fast . . . can you O/C your current system? . . . might get over 3Ghz 😉
 
I'm not sure there are any really bad i865 or i875 boards out there. Pretty much just pick the one with the features you want, at the best price.
 
Thanks guys 🙂

I'll check those out...

I am going to try to OC the current 2.40...and as for why I would want to upgrade...

you know us techies....never enough new toys! 😱)

Aloha

Lavagirl
 
I'll ask the question...... why Intel and not AMD? Any particular reason?

I'm a frugal sort and have no choice but to go AMD to get performance for my few dollars... the upper-level is a little different.

EDIT: OOPS! 😱 Didn't see you DON'T want a new processor, rather, to overclock the old one.
Nothing wrong with that move at all. 🙂
 
I use a Zalman CNPS-7000Cu (all copper version).....the AlCu version would work fine too......they are quiet, well made....92mm fan included, EASY installation (just 2 screws for P4). And....maybe most importantly, it is cheaper than the Thermalright SP94 and the Thermaltake SLK-947
 
If you are interested in just overclocking your current setup, you would really benefit from some faster RAM. The PC2700 that you are currently running will soon struggle with much of an overclock, some PC3500 or PC3700 would really do a trick, and you could use it if and when you decide to upgrade to a new motherboard.
There have been motherboard recommendations that range from good 865 to high end 875 chipset setups, but I would recommend the Abit IC7. It has the high end 875P chipset, and is essentially the high end Abit IC7-MAX3 without the fancy capacitor cooling and the extra SATA RAID option. It goes for around $118. The P4 2.8C is an excellent deal, I have a friend who OCed his to 3.5 on the stock cooling, albeit with Kingston PC4000 which we found at Best Buy for $118 for a 512mb dimm 😉
To really overclock, expensive ram is usually necessary, but that then puts the price farther up, to the point where it is almost more worthwhile to get a more expensive processor and some stock PC3200.
 
Get the new ones with SSE3, it's slower for new software now but soon it will be faster especially if you do any encoding, also the new HT instructions will help when the OS's and programs incorporate them. If you're looking for the fastest thing right now, don't bother, but it's stupud not to get the newest core.
 
Originally posted by: Pete84
If you are interested in just overclocking your current setup, you would really benefit from some faster RAM. The PC2700 that you are currently running will soon struggle with much of an overclock, some PC3500 or PC3700 would really do a trick, and you could use it if and when you decide to upgrade to a new motherboard.
There have been motherboard recommendations that range from good 865 to high end 875 chipset setups, but I would recommend the Abit IC7. It has the high end 875P chipset, and is essentially the high end Abit IC7-MAX3 without the fancy capacitor cooling and the extra SATA RAID option. It goes for around $118. The P4 2.8C is an excellent deal, I have a friend who OCed his to 3.5 on the stock cooling, albeit with Kingston PC4000 which we found at Best Buy for $118 for a 512mb dimm 😉
To really overclock, expensive ram is usually necessary, but that then puts the price farther up, to the point where it is almost more worthwhile to get a more expensive processor and some stock PC3200.
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not really . . . just use the dividers on your mb . . . any DISadvantage of setting the ration and/or timings (s)lower is WAY OFFset by the INCreased FSB.

RAM is a BAD buy now. O/C your current CPU to get a "feel" for o/C'ing (head over to that forum for pointers), keep your ram until prices DROP. 😉

Unless you have money to burn LAVAgirl. 😉

Howz the economy in HI?; which island? I left North Shore in 2000 after 8 years. 🙁

EDIT: NO DON'T get a PRESCOTT. Wait a bit till they get the heat issues resolved and speed UP ~4Ghz. The Northwood is the CPU to get at the moment. . . . 2.80C or 3.0C
 
All your components in your sig look good for a new mobo and P4 except for the PC2700.

If you got the $ why not go for what you want! 🙂
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Since $ don't seem to be an issue, for a motherboard I would recommend either the Abit IC7-Max3 or the Asus P4C800-E Dlx. Great overclocking features and have the best track records. Just pick the one that has the features that you prefer. The IC7 has a little more bios options for memory tweaks.

I would also suggest that you go with a 2.8C Northwood (MO stepping if you can find one). The 2.8C will outperform a 3.4 just due to using a higher fsb speed. I am currently running my 2.8C (MO) @ 3673Mhz on my P4C800-Dlx. The chip does run just as good on my IC7.

Then add some good PC4000 Dual Channel kit ram and run it 1:1 for a great rig.

For Air Cooling top that P4 with some AS3 and a Thermalright SP94 Heatpipe. Use a 92mm Panflo 57cfm fan for good airflow yet still won't wake the dead with high db.
 
Motherboard: ABit IC7-MAX3

Heat sink: Thermalright SP-94

Fan: If you like silence, the Panaflo 92mm fan is pretty quiet and pushs a good deal of air. If you don't care about noise, slap a 92mm tornado on that baby and you'll have it made.
 
Originally posted by: TazX3k
Get the new ones with SSE3, it's slower for new software now but soon it will be faster especially if you do any encoding, also the new HT instructions will help when the OS's and programs incorporate them. If you're looking for the fastest thing right now, don't bother, but it's stupud not to get the newest core.
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No, it's stupid to consider a Prescott when a Northwood will do fine.
You like ridiculous amounts of heat and motherboards that have to be almost-certified for use with the new core?

The only time that the Prescott will be faster is when they use the advantages of the new longer-stage pipeline etc to ramp the clock speed up.

Plus, "it will soon be faster". Well, yes, they will introduce faster clocked chips, but that still leaves lavagirl with a Prescott that's slower than a Northwood. The chip isn't going to magically increase in speed after it's been used for a few months.

Do some reading and stop posting drivel.
 
Ditto - DopeFiend

If you do consider a Prescott, wait for the new core and see if it runs any cooler and/or better. Currently the Northwood slaps the Prescott without having to hookup a freezer to the cpu. 😉
Originally posted by: DopeFiend
Originally posted by: TazX3k
Get the new ones with SSE3, it's slower for new software now but soon it will be faster especially if you do any encoding, also the new HT instructions will help when the OS's and programs incorporate them. If you're looking for the fastest thing right now, don't bother, but it's stupud not to get the newest core.
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No, it's stupid to consider a Prescott when a Northwood will do fine.
You like ridiculous amounts of heat and motherboards that have to be almost-certified for use with the new core?

The only time that the Prescott will be faster is when they use the advantages of the new longer-stage pipeline etc to ramp the clock speed up.

Plus, "it will soon be faster". Well, yes, they will introduce faster clocked chips, but that still leaves lavagirl with a Prescott that's slower than a Northwood. The chip isn't going to magically increase in speed after it's been used for a few months.

Do some reading and stop posting drivel.
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I would also suggest that you go with a 2.8C Northwood (MO stepping if you can find one). The 2.8C will outperform a 3.4 just due to using a higher fsb speed. I am currently running my 2.8C (MO) @ 3673Mhz on my P4C800-Dlx. The chip does run just as good on my IC7.
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3673 on 1.488volts? :Q
 
Originally posted by: charloscarlies
I would also suggest that you go with a 2.8C Northwood (MO stepping if you can find one). The 2.8C will outperform a 3.4 just due to using a higher fsb speed. I am currently running my 2.8C (MO) @ 3673Mhz on my P4C800-Dlx. The chip does run just as good on my IC7.
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3673 on 1.488volts? :Q
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Not so shocking, really. The MO stepping P4 is a multi-vid chip who's specs have a vcore between 1.425v and 1.525v even though the box will show 1.525 volts max. On my P4C800 when setting the vcore to auto or the lowest manual setting of 1.525v it will still read 1.425v in the bios and with any Win sensor program.
 
if you are not going to do any oc'ing (buyting a 3.2) would getting an intel mobo work out better?
 
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