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Any Republicans here? What's wrong with Romney?

micrometers

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Romney appears to me to be a uniquely talented and intelligent Republican presidential candidate. As a mormon church leader he helped unemployed people get back on their feet, often the church helped pay the person's bills and helped draw up a plan on getting a career. That is the best of what religious institutions do.

Yet Republicans seem highly reluctant to support the man. What gives?
 

Genx87

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I'd say because the party has shifted quite a bit to the right.

I still think he will get the nomination due to being the most electable candidate out there.
 

Hugo Drax

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He is a Mormon. That right there is the equivalent of voting for the devil or a jewish person to the teatards.

Newt will probably get nominated.
 

dank69

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Here is just the latest taste of this guy in action:
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Democrats on Tuesday took issue with the part of the ad that quotes Obama saying, "If we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose," pointing out that Romney took the quote out of context. Obama used the line in 2008, but he was talking about his opponent, Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain, not his own campaign. What Obama did say at the time, was this: "Senator McCain's campaign actually said, and I quote, 'If we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose.'" In response, the Democratic National Committee slammed Romney, calling him "a serial deceiver."
So basically, he took a quote of BHO quoting someone else, and represented it as BHO's own quote.

Lap it up.
 

Jaskalas

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Yet Republicans seem highly reluctant to support the man. What gives?

The governor of Kennedy and Kerry who gave Massachusetts a Republican stamped Obamacare belongs with the Democrats. No good conservatives come from a Democrat controlled state.

Moreso, we're sick and tired of centrist choices like Bush and McCain who's grand electability is on being a sellout. We don't want another who worships government and grows / centralizes it for the Democrats to inherit later

It's past time for a conservative in office, that means Romney has to be stopped.
 

boochi

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Zebo

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RINO. He's a big govt liberal with R by his name. Most Republican are big govt but he gives to poor people too. Can't have that.
 

micrometers

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Romney is the Republican version of John Kerry only with more flip flops.

I disagree. Kerry flip-flopped over the war in Iraq, which was the central argument for him.

Romney has flip-flopped over niche issues like abortion or gay marriage. Abortion in particular is an obsession mainly of kooks.
 

micrometers

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RINO. He's a big govt liberal with R by his name. Most Republican are big govt but he gives to poor people too. Can't have that.

Would he be a good leader or not? Isn't that all that matters? Ideology is just great until you get into the real world and you have to adapt.
 

Hugo Drax

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Huntsman is most reasonable Republican candidate, seems well educated, knows two languages and believes in science.

He would have been a great candidate to go against Obama. But the self-destructive nature of the GOP party pretty much guarantees that Obama will get reelected. The teaparty is the best thing that could have happened to Obama, it insures he gets elected again in 2012.
 

RedChief

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Huntsman would be a horrid candidate. He is way to moderate for the GOP base. We found out 08 what happens when you nominate a moderate. If the GOP wants to win, they have to have the base show up on election day and to do that you need a conservative.

Those of you who say the GOP should nominate him (Hugo Drax) are voting for Obama anyways.
 

micrometers

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Okay. What is the definition of a conservative. You do realize that a vast majority of democrats also profess fealty to limited government and fiscal responsibility.
 

Texashiker

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Huntsman would be a horrid candidate. He is way to moderate for the GOP base.

The further someone is to either side of neutral, the less electable they become. To far to the right or too far to the left, and people will consider the person a radical.

The exception was obama, who was elected because of political correctness. I doubt most of the people who voted for obama ever listened to anything he said.

When I do not vote Libertarian, I vote republican. The main reason are taxes and gun ownership issues.
 

Hugo Drax

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Huntsman would be a horrid candidate. He is way to moderate for the GOP base. We found out 08 what happens when you nominate a moderate. If the GOP wants to win, they have to have the base show up on election day and to do that you need a conservative.

Those of you who say the GOP should nominate him (Hugo Drax) are voting for Obama anyways.

In 08 they nominated McCain who then chose a half wit from Alaska who pretty much sunk any chance he had to win. And McCain was just a poor choice to begin with. Moderate or not.

The fact he Chose Palin for VP pretty much says it all about what kind of president McCain would have been.

Actually if Huntsman is nominated I might take a good look and elect him over Obama.

I voted for Obama because no way in hell could I sleep at night knowing that Palin the halfwit was one heartbeat way from the presidency and the nuclear button.
 

Texashiker

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I voted for Obama because no way in hell could I sleep at night knowing that Palin the halfwit was one heartbeat way from the presidency and the nuclear button.

You should have voted for one of the other parties.

By voting for obama, you threw your vote away.
 

airdata

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Romneys 15 seconds of being a front runner have long past.

Whenever I see somebody saying Ron Paul is unellectable I laugh, because I see very few republicans say who they support since the field is full of failures.
 

Jaskalas

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Okay. What is the definition of a conservative. You do realize that a vast majority of democrats also profess fealty to limited government and fiscal responsibility.

D: Those must be the ones who keep winning the Republican nomination.

Definition of a conservative? Well in the context of Romney i'll start with this, someone who did NOT support and pass Obamacare.
 

Zebo

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Would he be a good leader or not? Isn't that all that matters? Ideology is just great until you get into the real world and you have to adapt.

I think he would. You asked what the problem with him was. Problem is that's the ideology of our party today. Very right wing, corrupt, statist and cold blooded. Could he over come that? I don't know.
 

fskimospy

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I'd say because the party has shifted quite a bit to the right.

I still think he will get the nomination due to being the most electable candidate out there.

I agree that he will still get the nomination, I just can't see the Republicans being dumb enough to nominate one of the other guys.

An interesting side note: in 2008 Romney was considered the 'true conservative' alternative running next to the quasi-turncoat McCain. What a difference 4 years makes.
 

soundforbjt

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It's really sad & funny. Republicans should have a slamdunk on winning the Presidency this election. But then they field this bunch of losers for candidates that no one in their party seems to like and it seems like they are giving the election away.

You say you want a conservative, where are the conservative stars in your party and why aren't they running? It should be easy pickings, but you're making Obama look unbeatable with your crap choices.
 
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Zebo

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D: Those must be the ones who keep winning the Republican nomination.

Definition of a conservative? Well in the context of Romney i'll start with this, someone who did NOT support and pass Obamacare.

And Eisenhower raised tax rates with a Republican senate and house to 92% to pay off crushing war debt and build the largest infrastructure projects world had ever seen.. Was he conservative? Most conservative regard the 1950's as America's epoch. Sometime you do what's right.
 

Hugo Drax

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I agree that he will still get the nomination, I just can't see the Republicans being dumb enough to nominate one of the other guys.

An interesting side note: in 2008 Romney was considered the 'true conservative' alternative running next to the quasi-turncoat McCain. What a difference 4 years makes.

The irony is if they would have nominated Romney in 2008 you could have had a potential GOP win.

But remember he is of the devil religion the evil "Mormon" :)