Any reports on Pentium D overclockability?

[sangyup81]

Hey guys, anyone hear anything on how well the Pentium D's overclock? I'll use my own cooling of course (who in their right mind would overclock an intel with their stock hs/fans?) and I thought I'd look into these since the AMD X2's start at a higher price point.

Thanks

 

[Capt Caveman]

xbitlabs has a review on the 820 and couldn't get beyond 3.4 without the system shutting down with heat issues using high-end air. Folks at xtremesystems have gotten over 3.6 with water.

Since you already are using a 939 system, a X2 would probably be a better choice. No?

 

[fatty4ksu]

So many Intel haters.....

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Almost equals the number of AMD haters

Kind of funny you calling Capt Caveman an Intel hater. If you notice he runs an Intel rig, and I've seen him defending Intel on many occasions. But if he recommends and AMD chip for an AMD platform he's a hater?

Look in the mirror, fanboy

 

[Capt Caveman]

How was I dissing on Intel? I just stated what the oc results from a couple of sites. I don't think they're good or bad. I just stated a X2 to the OP b/c he's on a 939 system and wouldn't have to do anything but buy a cpu. If he went intel, he's talking cpu, mobo, ram and possibly a video card. Doesn't make sense to switch, expecially with the X2's performance.

When it comes to single-cores, I love my 640. If we're talking dual-core, can't beat a X2. JMHO

 

[l Xes l]

WTFBBQFATTY!!

 

[GuitarDaddy]

I agree with the Captian, since you already have a s939 setup it seems logical to go X2. It would cost you more to buy the Pentium D, mobo, GPU and ram as it would to buy an X2, and you would get considerably less performance, more heat and spend more on electricity

 

[fatty4ksu]

http://www.51wall.com/adver/2004/070701/intel_02.jpg

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
So many Intel haters.....

no... people just like to buy the best product, and AMD it is

 

[aka1nas]

I agree that in your case it would be more sensible to just drop the X2 in as you already have the rest of the system.


Fatty, if you aren't going to post any content then please stop trolling.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
So many Intel haters.....

For this one you win "idiot of the day"....congratulations you can pick prize by sticking your head in the toilet and flushing....


Capt Caveman is just stating true results he has seen...He didnt inject with numerous accounts of X2's hitting 2.7ghz-2.8ghz on air.....There is some OEM seller selling 840EEchips oc'd to 4ghz with some high end water cooling (may be chiller dont know for sure)...I bet the 840EE chips and likely the 840 chips may be more handpicked cherries....It really is unknown at this time if it will be similar with AMDX2s and the 4200+'s may be dogs as wwell....We will have to wait for enough ppl to start buying and get better and consistent results....

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: aka1nas
I agree that in your case it would be more sensible to just drop the X2 in as you already have the rest of the system.


Fatty, if you aren't going to post any content then please stop trolling.

especially since you are using water cooling now and may possible hit in the 2.8-3.0ghz range with an X2.....

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: aka1nas
I agree that in your case it would be more sensible to just drop the X2 in as you already have the rest of the system.


Fatty, if you aren't going to post any content then please stop trolling.

especially since you are using water cooling now and may possible hit in the 2.8-3.0ghz range with an X2.....

what do you think the max amount of volts would be acceptable for the X2, on water and air???, i know most people would say 10% over default Vcore, but this is different .. there are two cores, and they are probably more susceptible to damage with more volts

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: aka1nas
I agree that in your case it would be more sensible to just drop the X2 in as you already have the rest of the system.


Fatty, if you aren't going to post any content then please stop trolling.

especially since you are using water cooling now and may possible hit in the 2.8-3.0ghz range with an X2.....

what do you think the max amount of volts would be acceptable for the X2, on water and air???, i know most people would say 10% over default Vcore, but this is different .. there are two cores, and they are probably more susceptible to damage with more volts

I think 10% would still hold true for air...I dont see what 2 cores has to due with it.....It appears to be as cool as same speed single cores as stock speeds....Yes you have 2 cores but they have double to size of the cores in contact for heat transfer...There may be a little play off of each other but for safety reasons if you can keep those temps sub 60c you should be safe....10% now is stil only recommended for ppl with above average air coolers now....This is not recommended on stock HSFs. Water users may bump it out to 15% perhaps....

 

[sangyup81]

Thanks for the feedback guys!

Actually, I would get a DFI and better memory if I got an X2. I was hoping for 4.0ghz with Intel but I guess it's not so. But at the same time, I'll need a least a 3.0ghz OC with the X2 the justify the extra price I'll have to pay.

Or..... I could just wait until socket M2's come out because I expect AMD dual cores to drop in price by then.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
I agree with the Captian, since you already have a s939 setup it seems logical to go X2. It would cost you more to buy the Pentium D, mobo, GPU and ram as it would to buy an X2, and you would get considerably less performance, more heat and spend more on electricity

we all know that 50 cents a month should influence your buying decision.

 

[Acanthus]

Honestly with your setup i would also reccomend X2 higher performance, and much lower cost to upgrade.

Im planning on going dual core when the Meram hits.

 

[sangyup81]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Honestly with your setup i would also reccomend X2 higher performance, and much lower cost to upgrade.

Im planning on going dual core when the Meram hits.

But I don't like my Neo2 and Radeon 9800 Pro =(

I figure with Intel, I can buy some decent DDR2 which I can use for the socket M2 AMDs when they come out. I mean we're talking about a $260 difference between the two chips.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: sangyup81

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Honestly with your setup i would also reccomend X2 higher performance, and much lower cost to upgrade.

Im planning on going dual core when the Meram hits.

But I don't like my Neo2 and Radeon 9800 Pro =(

I figure with Intel, I can buy some decent DDR2 which I can use for the socket M2 AMDs when they come out. I mean we're talking about a $260 difference between the two chips.

Well thats different, if youre not happy with your current mobo and need to change it anyway, Intel is the cheaper path, especially if you want to get DDRII now (remember by the time M-2 comes out it will likely be cheaper and lower latency to boot).

I'd stick with what you have for a few more months, unless you do a ton of heavy multitasking.

 

[sangyup81]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: sangyup81

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Honestly with your setup i would also reccomend X2 higher performance, and much lower cost to upgrade.

Im planning on going dual core when the Meram hits.

But I don't like my Neo2 and Radeon 9800 Pro =(

I figure with Intel, I can buy some decent DDR2 which I can use for the socket M2 AMDs when they come out. I mean we're talking about a $260 difference between the two chips.

Well thats different, if youre not happy with your current mobo and need to change it anyway, Intel is the cheaper path, especially if you want to get DDRII now (remember by the time M-2 comes out it will likely be cheaper and lower latency to boot).

I'd stick with what you have for a few more months, unless you do a ton of heavy multitasking.

I was hoping to get rid of my POS Corsairs too

 

[bjc112]

congratulations you can pick prize by sticking your head in the toilet and flushing....

:beer:


Fatty it comes down to price/performance and AMD is currently winning by a longshot.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: sangyup81

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: sangyup81

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Honestly with your setup i would also reccomend X2 higher performance, and much lower cost to upgrade.

Im planning on going dual core when the Meram hits.

But I don't like my Neo2 and Radeon 9800 Pro =(

I figure with Intel, I can buy some decent DDR2 which I can use for the socket M2 AMDs when they come out. I mean we're talking about a $260 difference between the two chips.

Well thats different, if youre not happy with your current mobo and need to change it anyway, Intel is the cheaper path, especially if you want to get DDRII now (remember by the time M-2 comes out it will likely be cheaper and lower latency to boot).

I'd stick with what you have for a few more months, unless you do a ton of heavy multitasking.

I was hoping to get rid of my POS Corsairs too

Seriously unless you are having serious stability problems... Just grab a G70 in a couple months and be happy

Dual core isnt gonna do jack for quite a while unless you do HEAVY multitasking.

 

[sangyup81]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: sangyup81

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: sangyup81

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Honestly with your setup i would also reccomend X2 higher performance, and much lower cost to upgrade.

Im planning on going dual core when the Meram hits.

But I don't like my Neo2 and Radeon 9800 Pro =(

I figure with Intel, I can buy some decent DDR2 which I can use for the socket M2 AMDs when they come out. I mean we're talking about a $260 difference between the two chips.

Well thats different, if youre not happy with your current mobo and need to change it anyway, Intel is the cheaper path, especially if you want to get DDRII now (remember by the time M-2 comes out it will likely be cheaper and lower latency to boot).

I'd stick with what you have for a few more months, unless you do a ton of heavy multitasking.

I was hoping to get rid of my POS Corsairs too

Seriously unless you are having serious stability problems... Just grab a G70 in a couple months and be happy

Dual core isnt gonna do jack for quite a while unless you do HEAVY multitasking.

Then I'd have to get an AGP G70. In time, I will not be able to get the latest and greated mobo if I need AGP.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: sangyup81

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: sangyup81

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: sangyup81

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Honestly with your setup i would also reccomend X2 higher performance, and much lower cost to upgrade.

Im planning on going dual core when the Meram hits.

But I don't like my Neo2 and Radeon 9800 Pro =(

I figure with Intel, I can buy some decent DDR2 which I can use for the socket M2 AMDs when they come out. I mean we're talking about a $260 difference between the two chips.

Well thats different, if youre not happy with your current mobo and need to change it anyway, Intel is the cheaper path, especially if you want to get DDRII now (remember by the time M-2 comes out it will likely be cheaper and lower latency to boot).

I'd stick with what you have for a few more months, unless you do a ton of heavy multitasking.

I was hoping to get rid of my POS Corsairs too

Seriously unless you are having serious stability problems... Just grab a G70 in a couple months and be happy

Dual core isnt gonna do jack for quite a while unless you do HEAVY multitasking.

Then I'd have to get an AGP G70. In time, I will not be able to get the latest and greated mobo if I need AGP.

Well yeah, but what i mean is by the time that rig wears out its usefulness, you can do the total teardown-rebuild that youre planning now, and you will have Windows Longhorn, better DDRII, Socket M2, More solid SLI/AMR drivers for the newer graphics cards, and far better Dual core and X86-64 support.

 

[ssvegeta1010]

Please, stop the quote pyramids!!!

Example

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: sangyup81

Originally posted by: Acanthus

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Then I'd have to get an AGP G70. In time, I will not be able to get the latest and greated mobo if I need AGP.

Well yeah, but what i mean is by the time that rig wears out its usefulness, you can do the total teardown-rebuild that youre planning now, and you will have Windows Longhorn, better DDRII, Socket M2, More solid SLI/AMR drivers for the newer graphics cards, and far better Dual core and X86-64 support.

There, now that looks better. Discussion continued.