Any reason I should upgrade my wife's PC (Win7) to 10?

flexy

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She's only playing SWTOR and WoW and watching movies.
I am "upgrading" her PC now (Q6600, GTX 670) to a slightly newer i5 System, mainly because the i5 system uses less power.

(She might at some point, once she has 8GB also check out The Witcher 3 etc.)

Any point in upgrading her to 10? (At this time I don't see a reason really...what say you?)
 

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Most of the complains about Win 10 have to do with the needs (and paranoid ideation ) of the Enthusiasts.

If One is Not an Enthusiast, and his/her computer is Compatible with Win 10 it is a Good deal to upgrade to Win 10.


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I think that it really comes down to personal preference and you should do what you feel is best for your circumstance. Personally I moved all of my pc's to 10 as quickly as I could.
 

Charlie98

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If you are using WMC in any fashion, stay with W7.

I'm kind of the mind that if it ain't broke, don't fix it...
 

SPBHM

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I see no reasons why you wouldn't, that GTX 670 even supports WDDM2.0/DX12 properly

make the upgrade with the option to just keep the files and it will be a fresh install, the PC will probably feel pretty smooth,

yesterday I've upgrade like my 4th PC to 10, my old athlon 64 X2 and it's been pretty good (even if the update ad warned me the geforce 6 was not compatible, forcing wddm 1.0 win 8 drivers worked perfectly and for the sound card, some old c-media thing, I also manually installed win 8 drivers and it's perfect, that's the first time windows update drivers failed me on win 10 lol, but as expected vista+ drivers worked fine).
 

Magic Carpet

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I was like that on DOS 6.22, too bad I had to move forward, I really did prefer DOS back then to crappy Windows.
I feel your pain. It had taken a good while before a mature, consumer-oriented Windows release finally took place. Windows NT 5.0 it was for me.

A long way.
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Any point in upgrading her to 10? (At this time I don't see a reason really...what say you?)
I wouldn't bother. Keep in mind, that there will be more Windows 10 releases. Might as well get a more recent one later down the road. The current build is still pretty much work in progress.
 
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ControlD

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Never, ever, upgrade the wife's computer.

If it was yours, I would say go for it. But your wife's? Nope. Not until she asks you to do it.
 

Magic Carpet

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Never, ever, upgrade the wife's computer.

If it was yours, I would say go for it. But your wife's? Nope. Not until she asks you to do it.
That is also a very sound advice. If you change a thing or two, hell even a shortcut location, you will know it :)

Put it this way, from a security point of view, there is no immediate need to make your wife love the new Windows 10 interface, just yet.
 

Charlie98

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I was like that on DOS 6.22, too bad I had to move forward, I really did prefer DOS back then to crappy Windows.

Is W10 really that big of a step forward over W7? I think not...

W7 is still very good, and unless the user really needs a feature set that W7 doesn't have, I'd stick with W7 (which I am, on my primary PC and my HTPC (because I use WMC.))
 

Magic Carpet

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Is W10 really that big of a step forward over W7? I think not...
Under the hood, it is significant, I'd say. But GUI-wise, it is a clear downgrade for a traditional mouse user. People now are trying to balance it out, installing various 3rd party shells and what not to solve that. Clearly, Microsoft has miscalculated something. People didn't do that 10 years ago in such volumes, except for the hardcore system tweakers (i.e. Aston Shell and the like), which was a minority, compared to what is happening today. And we know, the market is always right.

Apple isn't trying to put a touch-enabled interface of iOS in to their desktops/laptops. For a reason. Microsoft fucked up, pretty big this time. The market adoption numbers don't lie. Some people have already began ditching Windows as a result of this. But gaming is still what holds the majority.

Here, a gaming Ubuntu based laptop. I know it's useless for the majority of Windows-based games, but you wouldn't even see anything like that 10 years ago. Things are changing. Heh, looks like *nix is finally getting good enough after all these years. If it weren't for *nix, we wouldn't have iOS, Android, and OS X. Microsoft, you are losing the game. You need to focus on what you do best or face the consequences.
 
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ControlD

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I honestly haven't felt the need to use any third party UI tools with Windows 10. I did run Start8 with Windows 8.1 (which also works under Windows 10 if curious). I feel like the "desktop" mode of Windows 10 is pretty decent honestly.

Still, if someone is happy with Windows 7 and it does everything they want there isn't a huge reason to upgrade yet. I just like running the latest and greatest so I was more than happy to move on to Windows 10, which is a huge improvement over 8.1.
 

Magic Carpet

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I honestly haven't felt the need to use any third party UI tools with Windows 10. I did run Start8 with Windows 8.1 (which also works under Windows 10 if curious). I feel like the "desktop" mode of Windows 10 is pretty decent honestly..
The tiles, the windows, they are either too big, wide, or too square. You can clearly see, it just was not designed for the primary mouse input. They built the most efficient Windows OS ever, but couldn't pair it with the fully, customizable classical mouse interface? (windows, tiles, colors etc). Come on, you must be joking. Microsoft was always about choice. They could have had a real winner with Windows 10, but fucked up. Well, that's Microsoft for you. They do it every now and then. Comparing Windows 8 and Windows 10, there is progress, however, we got Start Menu back, albeit handicapped with inefficient design. Maybe in the next release we'll get more control over how things look. The performance is there, features too, just allow the people to customize GUI fully without having to use alternative shells. This especially becomes more important when the majority of those newer features people can't even use yet (DX12) or see (under the hood changes) but the ones removed, people actually feel to notice (like WMC, Gadgets, etc). As a whole, Windows 10 was just rushed, imo. Hopefully, Microsoft will address some of that in the future.
 
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ControlD

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The tiles, the windows, they are either too big, wide, or too square. You can clearly see, it just was not designed for the primary mouse input.

What tiles are you referring to? The ones on the start menu? I guess I just sort of ignore those. I never see the mobile interface at all.
 

Magic Carpet

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What tiles are you referring to? The ones on the start menu? I guess I just sort of ignore those. I never see the mobile interface at all.
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Like these. No easy way to change the shape, the size or the color behind them. No right-mouse click customization, no way to get Recent documents displayed the old-fashioned way.

The only usable way of using it would be to not use it at all! i.e. instead just to type everything in the search bar, and running things from there. That is good. But what if I want to use just a mouse? I am fucked. It took me 10 minutes to find how to change DPI. Until I just searched for it. That GUI is a joke, quite frankly. The only usable feature is the right-mouse click on the start button, but that was available in Windows 8.1. W_X brought nothing really clever in terms of GUI customization but broke a few more things, so a 3rd party shell is still required. The only thing that got upgraded in a good way, imo, was Windows File Explorer which got a bit more "polished" and functional. That's what happens when you rush things. Heh.
 
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